Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2004/04/26/53642.html Armenia and USA sign military agreement 18:30 2004-04-26 Armenia and the USA have signed a military agreement on rendering mutual services, Mikhail Arutyunyan, the Head of the Command Staff and the Senior Deputy Defense Minister of Armenia said at today's briefing. There has been created a legal basis, which will allow both countries to render logistic support to each other during joint actions and military exercises on the terms of mutual compensation, he noted. "The rights and duties stipulated in the agreement are mutual and will allow military forces of the two states to establish allied relations during joint actions and exercises," Arutyunyan mentioned. In his turn, U.S. General Charles Wald, the Deputy Commander of U.S. Forces in Europe, declared that this agreement was important for military forces of the USA as Armenia and that cooperation between the two states was developing in a stable way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 If this is what it actually says, Armenia has outmaneuvred Azerbaijan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 US European Command http://www.eucom.mil/Photo_Gallery/index.h...lery/main.htm&2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 http://www.arminfo.am/ AZERBAIJAN'S STANDING TO FORCEFULLY TAKE BACK DISPUTED LANDS MIGHT HAVE HAD U.S. BACKING AND PAINT ARMENIA INTO CORNER: US EXPERTS YEREVAN, APRIL 29. ARMINFO. U.S. gets an eventual presence in the Caucasus, such was the opinion of the specialists of an independent analytical center STRATFOR (Strategic Forecasting LLC). In the article "The US woos Armenia" the experts say that to really get an eventual presence in the South Caucasus, Washington needs Armenia's support, as Azerbaijan and Georgia have already announced their adherence to it. Meanwhile, Armenia traditionally has been the most pro-Russian of the three states and has had good ties with Iran, often facilitating communication between Tehran and Moscow. As a predominantly Christian state in a Muslim region, Armenia has a close relationship with Russia. Armenia and Iran share an animosity for Turkey. Yerevan has a vested interest in allying itself with the United States. Armenia occupies a large chunk of Azerbaijan's land -- known as Nagorno- Artsax -- and has no intentions of giving it back. Azerbaijan has floated the idea that it might be prepared to forcefully take back the disputed land; given Azerbaijan's standing with the United States, these threats might have had U.S. backing. This would paint Armenia into a corner and leave it with few viable options. The easiest way to defeat a strong U.S. ally that is itching for a fight is to become a U.S. ally in kind - - a decision that might explain the relative speed with which the U.S. military and Armenian armed forces reached an accord. Any diplomatic efforts to draw Yerevan under the U.S. military's influence will have to be delicate and measured over a period of years. Political machinations by Russia or Iran could derail U.S. plans. For the time being, such intervention seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Groong --------------------------------------------------------- USA TO FAIL IN Artsax, AZERI DAILY SAYS Ekho, Baku 29 Apr 04 The US business interests in the South Caucasus will eventually require political backing, and Washington seems to have decided to deal seriously with regional conflicts, and firsty the Armenian-Azerbaijani Nagornyy Artsax conflic t, Azerbaijani newspaper Ekho has reported. In order to resolve the problem, the USA has to dismiss its balanced policy and define favourites, Ekho said. Washington might try to drive Armenia out of Russia's influence, while at the same time putting pressure on Azerbaijan and Turkey. But in this case, the USA could alienate its two strategic partners and, moreover, provoke an upsurge in Islamic influence in the region, the paper said. The whole plan might have "catastrophic repercussions" for Washington and make it forget about its major economic projects in the region, Ekho concluded. The following is the text of Nurani report by Azerbaijani newspaper Ekho on 29 April headlined "American rollercoaster"; subheadings inserted editorially: USA vs Russia in South Caucasus This popular attraction is called "Russian rollercoaster" everywhere in the world. It is believed to repeat the traditional Russian amusement - sliding down an ice hill on a sleigh. However, in Russia it is said to be "American" since this "round-the-year" attraction came from America. For some reason, this unserious comparison comes to my mind every time I compare how the Russian and Western press comment on the situation in the South Caucasus. The majority of Moscow (and pro-Moscow) newspapers believe that the South Caucasus has long been "ruled" by the USA that has turned this region, which is geographically and environmentally destined to be none other than "Russia's backyard", into "its 51st state". On the other side of the former "cold war" frontiers, the situation is conceived in a completely opposite way. The composition, to be more precise, the style of the (OSCE) Minsk Group was the best proof: while Russia was officially represented by unimpressive (Nikolay) Gribkov, the former deputy director of the Russian foreign intelligence service and the incumbent deputy foreign minister, Vyacheslav Trubnikov, visited the region along with his colleagues. Moreover, the "strategic concepts" of the two super powers, as regional observers could witness more than once, do not concur. We should probably expect that the US business interests in the region will sooner or later require political "backing". Today, one can find dozens of ongoing political developments which, if you have enough desire and imagination, could pass for the manifestation of that US strategy. For instance, the "rose revolution" in Georgia (even if the USA's real role in it is a topic where telling whisper and hints will for a long time dominate clear-cut and unambiguous statements) was unequivocally interpreted as the start of a "purge" of the political field of the oil-rich region from corrupt undemocratic regimes, despite their loyalty and the leader's past merits. USA has to dismiss balanced policy Against this background, the appointment to the post of US co-chairman of the Minsk Group of Steven Mann, who used to be in charge of the "energy diplomacy" in the region which proved to be very successful, is said to clearly show the USA's decision to seriously deal with the settlement of regional conflicts in the South Caucasus, and the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in the first place. If we remember that the USA has been for quite a long time "pushing" Armenia and Turkey towards a dialogue, Steven Mann's appointment, which reveals the USA's aspiration to a speedy settlement to the conflict which is simmering near pipelines, completes the "picture" of the situation in the region. However, the "conflict diplomacy" in general, and the brokering mission in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in particular, might prove to be a much more difficult task for the USA than an effective economic breakthrough. The world has already witnessed the failure of three mediation initiatives in Nagornyy Artsax - the step-by-step and package settlements and the territorial swap. Although today US diplomats react quite painfully to criticism of the Minsk Group, one has to draw not at all encouraging conclusions from 10-year-long negotiations: the chances that the parties themselves can "reach a compromise" are most likely to be very slim. To put it simply, if the USA is serious in its intention to settle the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, it will sooner or later have to dismiss its hope to conduct "balanced policy" and define its likes and dislikes. A fairly extraordinary situation has been formed in the region. Both regional political mega projects - the Artsax settlement and the Armenian-Turkish dialogue - impact Armenia. This country is the only strategic ally of Russia in the region, while it is opposed in one case by Turkey, for which, despite all the recent problems, the USA is undoubtedly number one strategic partner, and in the other case by Azerbaijan, for which Washington is again closer than Moscow. "Catastrophic" repercussions for USA Rumours have been going on in the South Caucasus for quite a while that the USA will finally try to "buy out" Armenia from Russia and take this country out of Moscow's monopoly and thus gain control of the whole of the region. Hence, there is a clear conclusion that now Washington will try its best to "interest" Armenia and, correspondingly, step up pressure on Azerbaijan and Turkey: it is always easier to pressurize your ally than a country which you have yet to improve relations with. However, the situation is far from being simple. If in the early 1990s analysts said that those who would succeed in mediating conflicts would get carte blanche in the region, today's forecasts are completely different: in case of the mediators' failure, all the other US projects in the region, including economic projects, might be threatened. Indeed, relations with Armenia are a very sensitive issue both in Azerbaijan and Turkey. It is hardly possible, even theoretically, to "dose up pressure" in order, on the one hand, to force Azerbaijan and Turkey to make a concession that would impress Armenia, and on the other hand, not to damage its own positions in these countries. The reason is simple: the "limit" of Armenia's requirements is extremely high. On the other hand, excessive pressure on Baku and Ankara might prompt these countries not only to look for "alternative partners", from the European Union to Russia. An upsurge in Islamic influence in these countries could prove to be much more dangerous. These will be the same Islamists who found themselves in power in Iran unexpectedly for the whole world, easily won the majority of seats in the Algerian parliament elections, and proved to be the most influential political force in today's Iraq. They hardly have any particular influence in Azerbaijan nowadays, and the ruling JDP (Justice and Development Party) in Turkey can hardly be described as a radical group. However, politicians know well about the possibility of "catastrophic" shifts in the public opinion, particularly if sensitive and painful problems such as Artsax are at issue. This means that an attempt to buy out Armenia from Russia at the expense of Turkey and Azerbaijan could have catastrophic repercussions for Washington, and the USA will have to forget about those regional mega projects for a long time to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 (edited) ARMENIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY DENIES IT WILL HOST USA MILITARY AIRCRAFT Arminfo 29 Apr 04 YEREVAN The Armenian Defence Ministry has denied media reports that an agreement has been concluded with the USA on the deployment of US military aircraft at Armenian airports. The press secretary of the Armenian Defence Ministry, Col Seyran Shakhsuvaryan, has told Arminfo that Yerevan-based Aykakan Zhamanak newspaper to day reported, quoting a report of the influential American analytical centre Stratfo r of 27 April, that an agreement was reached during the visit to Armenia of the deputy commander of the US European Command, Gen Charles Wald, (on 25-26 April), under which Armenia gave permission to the USA to deploy its war planes at Armenia's military airports. "This sensational, albeit not corresponding to reality, report is the result of incorrect translation and incorrect interpretation of the agreement," Shakhsuvaryan said. He said that the aforementioned agreement "On mutual acquisition and cross-servicing between the Armenian Defence Ministry and the US Department of Defence" had nothing to do with the deployment of US planes at Arm enian military airports. In fact, the goal of the agreement is to render logistics support, taking into account the countries' policies and priorities, Shakhsuvaryan said. Edited April 30, 2004 by ArmenSarg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 The Russia Journal Apr 30, 2004, 23:59 (Moscow time) Armenia denies giving US permission to use its airstrips DEFENSE » :: Apr 30, 2004 Posted: 15:10 Moscow time (11:10 GMT) YEREVAN - Reports that the United States Air Force has arranged to use Armenian airbases are false, Col. Seyran Shakhsuvaranian, press secretary of Armenia's Defense Ministry, declared Thursday in a statement responding to reports carried by local media citing the American STRATFOR research center. The colonel said the agreement reached during the visit to Armenia of Gen. Charles F. Wald, deputy commander of US forces in Europe, did not include provisions for basing US warplanes on Armenian bases. 'The actual aim of the agreement has to do with the provision of supplies and technical services between the two sides when one or the other requests it and at the option of the other in view of its policies and priorities,' his statement said. According to the STRATFOR account, agreement was reached during Wald's visit on April 25-26 to allow US military airplanes to land at Armenian airports. It called the agreement part of an effort to isolate Armenia from Russia and Iran. /Rosbalt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mx5 Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 very instructive. notice how they(Turkey and Azarbaijan) are threatning with pan islamism again, as though nothing has changed since 100 years,it is the only weapon they have got :encouraging religous fanatisism whenever and wherever is needed. these same two countries they know how to take and steal from small nations,but never give back what does not belong to them,unfortunately they are never asked to,and got away with everything....till now...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerevanian Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 They didn’t sign. At least when posting something like this make sure it’s valid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted May 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Yerevanian jan, I posted all kinds of sources and news. The agreement was signed but it was wrongly interpreted by a US analytical web-site (i.e Stratfor). I posted the statement of Armenian Defence agency on this. If it was signed or not is out of question. It was signed, as you can see from the US European Command's link, statement of Armenia's defence ministry etc. Please, read before commenting. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerevanian Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Yerevanian jan, I posted all kinds of sources and news. The agreement was signed but it was wrongly interpreted by a US analytical web-site (i.e Stratfor). I posted the statement of Armenian Defence agency on this. If it was signed or not is out of question. It was signed, as you can see from the US European Command's link, statement of Armenia's defence ministry etc. Please, read before commenting. Regards I've heard with my own ears yesterday on Armenian TV.. no such thing was signed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted May 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 OK. Can you tell me what was signed then? Because in the photo form the US European Command web-page, which I provided above, it seems like Michael Harutyunian, Armenian's Chief of General Staff, is signing something. Did they tell in the news what was signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 In all likelihood whatever was signed was not a very big deal. If it was that big Kocharian would be the one to sign. Not to say that Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement is a small thing, it just does not compare to several major defence agreements with Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted May 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 (edited) Sasun, an agreement providing air basis would not be signed by the president but it would be a big geopolitical deal. Technical agreements are not signed on the highest levels. At the same time a framework agreement with no specific follow up action plan would be signed by the president a would carry only political weight. Sometimes it is useful to go low profile. Also, an agreement with US is not necessarily against the Russian interest. In Kirgizstan US and Russian air bases are located just some 50-60 miles from each other if I'm not wrong. The only country that would become unhappy in our case is Iran. Edited May 3, 2004 by ArmenSarg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 from what i know, the agreement was about sending armenian military doctors and engeneers to iraq, but non servicemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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