Dec. 25 Vs Jan. 6

[Stormig]

Hey Gamavor,

 

I have only been divorced once. As my ex eliminated our prospective children through two abortions, I do not have any children to support. You would be surprised at the elaborate sumptuous vegan meals I enjoy. Do you consider Americanizaton to be MORONIZATION??

Amerikanskis thinking world turns around them, moronization? Sure enough.

[gamavor]

Do you consider Americanizaton to be MORONIZATION??

I see my thoughts have positive influence over the way you think! That's the way to go! Cheers!

[Dan]

[Stormig]

Something I got sent to me:

 

 

Christmas is the day on which Christians celebrate the birth day of Jesus

Christ The word Christmas means Christ's mass. The Armenian Church

traditionally celebrates the birth of Jesus on January 6, whereas all other

major churches, including the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestant

branches of Christianity, celebrate It on December 25. Was Jesus born on

January 6 or December 25? No one knows with certainty the answer to this

question, for there is nothing mentioned in the Bible or in any outside

literature concerning the birthday of Jesus. During the first three centuries

of the Christian Era there was considerable opposition in the Church to the

pagan custom of celebrating birthdays, although there is evidence that a purely

religious commemoration of the birth of Christ was included in the Feast of Epiphany.

Epiphany means "manifestation" It is a Christian fast in celebration of Jesus'

making God known to humans through his baptism, which was the beginning of his

ministry and the time when the Holy Spirit announced his divinity in public.

Historically, Epiphany is an older holy day than Christmas. Originally,

Christians celebrated both the birth and baptism of Christ on January 6, as

well as the visit of the Wise Men. It appears that they gradually began to

celebrate the birth of Christ, the Nativity, and his manifestation, the

Epiphany, at the same time.This practice continued until the first Quarter

of the fourth century when the Roman Church was the first to separate these two

events. It changed the birth to December 25, but retained January 6 as His

baptismal date. The reasons for the change were two fold: a) It was difficult to

perform the Nativity ceremonies in Bethlehem (where Jesus was born)

and Epiphany ceremonies at the bank of the River Jordan (where Jesus was

baptized) on the same day. To suppress a very popular pagan festival - the

Mithrate Sol Invictus, the birthday of the Sun-god, which was celebrated on

December 25. In Rome, the latter part of December was a time for many pagan

festivities such as Saturnalia (the festival of Saturn) which were

linked to the winter solstice or the birth of the sun. All these festivities

celebrated the victory of light over darkness. After the triumph of Constantine the Great

(c.280-337) and his adoption of Christianity as a favorite religion in the Roman

Empire in 313 A.D., the Christian Church suppressed pagan festivals and

established Christian festivals to replace them. The Roman Church changed the

Nativity to December 25 so as to diminish and eventually to transform it from a

pagan celebration to a Christian one. Thus a parallel was drawn between the

birthday Sol-Invictus and the Son of God. After all, Christ as the Light of the world,

won a victory over darkness. In 354 A.D Bishop Liberius of Rome ordered the

Roman Church to celebrate the birth of Christ on December 25. Soon the Greek

Church followed the Romans and switched to December 25. Attempts were made to

persuade the Armenian Church to join the major branches of Christendom. But the

Armenian Church retained the traditional date of January 6, primarily because

it wanted to hold fast to the ancient tradition, but also on the grounds of

preserving its ecclesiastical independence and identity. Nobody has determined

the exact date of the birth of Christ, either from the evidence of the Gospels,

or from any sound tradition.But what difference would it make whether Jesus

was born on January 6 or December 25, or any other day? The most important

thing is His coming into the world in order to save it from its sinfulness.

Consequently, the most important consideration is not the date of his birth, but

whether he has been a difference-making Reality in our lives.

[America-Hye]

There is much too much paganism mixed in with Christianity. Better to retun to it's true form. Unfortunately the Armenian nobility exterminated Zempad Zarehavan.

 

AS for Jesus birth, the date is immaterial. However, we know that he was born on October 8, four years earlier than believed. This was calculated using astronomical data and the Hebrew religious calendar used during that era.

[joseph parikian]

Wow Stormig what a beutiful artical specialy the closing part of it

God bless you