The Strength Of "conspiracy" Taboo

[hagopn]

I will try to start a series based entirely on conspiracies, the more logical and empirical ones (not Icke's "lizard people" trash, for example), that deal with history on a global scale. In my opinion, whether we/you like it or not, this is an ongonig debate on the Internet, and to avoid it due to "stigmas" is to miss out on some interesting information.

 

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I will post this article from http://www.savethemales.ca/000285.html without any due "preparation of audience." In other words, I will "make a cold sales call" in marketing and sales jargon. Please note that Dr. Makow is wealthy, Jewish, but a convert to Christianity (Catholicism, I believe, as he has married a Philipina).

 

Some of you might already be familiar with this site. Some of you might evern think of this as a "lunatic's binge on historical analysis." Be that as it may, it offers information that I would like to see refuted or corroborated, wherever applicalble or possible.

 

To those who think of this as lunacy, I have but one thing to say: "Temper, temper!"

 

What does this have to do with Armenians? In my opinion, a clear understanding of world history that involves subversive meandering (ooh, that "taboo" word of "conspiracy", ooh), can serve as an example to re-enforce our knowledge and serve as a supplement to our lack of knowledge of just what the hell happened to us in the period that led to 1915 (and 1906 Baku, and 1895-6 "Hamidiye" massacres, and so on.) It might even tell us just how unprepared ad how gullible we were to get into the "revolutionary" floodgate that Europeans had initiated. We might even consider some of our own wisemen, such as Grigor Artsruni, who warned us against participating in this "revolutionary" heatwave.

 

Personally, I like this man's style, although I have no way of assuming "absolute truth" in any historical treatise, but this chap seems to be at least providing that which is required for truly open debates: an alternative view in a coherent form. The average college graduate will feign at the data this provides and will condemn the author for being "a lunatic, neo-Nazi" and so on, (but, friends, the man is Jewish!). That's fine, as long as they can keep their childish comments to themselves and offer logical and rational objections. (I think it should be rather easy, unless they are agents sent in as agitators. In that case, it's a different matter altogether.)

 

Note the bit about Noam Chomsky represented as a fake "dissenter." I like this, because Noam Chomsky is primarily a socialist who still advocates class struggle in the revolutionary sense, and everytime I hear the word "revolution," I think of Tolstoy's poignant response to a "revolutionary" socialist:

 

Socialist asks: "Is there not a difference between killing for the sake of killing and killing for a noble cause?"

 

Tolstoy responds: "Yes, as in the difference between dogshit and catshit." Lev Tolstoy is coopted by the blood-thirsty "revolutionary" propaganda machine as "an inspiration to the Russian Revolution," but this response certainly dismisses that as hearsay. "Reformists" are certainly not "revolutionaries," and I imagine that Tolstoy would have grieved the loss of Stolypin, for example, more than that of the Vladimir Lenin.

 

Anyway, below is the article...

 

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Why the Bankers Love the Left

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

November 23, 2003

 

Count Cherep-Spiridovitch was a Czarist general who battled the Bolsheviks in the 1917 Russian Revolution.

 

In 1926 he published a book entitled "The Secret World Government" which shows how the Rothschild's plan for world tyranny ("the Jewish Conspiracy") dominates modern history.

 

Secret World Government is generally considered "right wing" and "anti Semitic."

 

The "right wing" and "anti Semitic" smear is revealing:

 

1) It shows the extent society already has been brainwashed and subverted.

 

2) It reveals how the bogus issue of anti Semitism is used to deflect attention from a genuine and mortal threat to humanity.

 

3) It explains the true meaning of "right wing" and why the Left is an instrument of the bankers.

 

 

LOOK AT THE US CIVIL WAR

 

Compare the treatment of this war in "The Secret World Government" with "A Peoples History of the United States" by Howard Zinn, a leftist.

 

Cherep-Spiridovitch cites an interview with the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck in 1876. Bismarck explained that the Rothschilds who controlled Europe were afraid the United States would become independent of them if it remained one nation.

 

"They foresaw tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies indebted to the Jewish financiers to the vigorous republic confident and self providing. Therefore they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus to dig an abyss between the two parts of the republic." (180)

 

The Illuminati used the Masonic "Knights of the Golden Circle" formed in 1854 by George W. L. Bickley, to spread racial tension by making slavery an issue. Members included Lincoln assassin John Wilkes Booth, Confederate President Jefferson Davis, and his adviser Judah P. Benjamin, the Confederate Secretary of War, a Rothschild agent.

 

The plan was to divide the United Sates between England controlled by Lionel Rothschild and France, controlled by James Rothschild. France was to take over the whole South while Canada annexed the defeated North. In 1863 France and Spain invaded Mexico with 30,000 troops. The embattled Confederate States actually offered Louisiana and Texas to France in exchange for its assistance.

 

Britain, France and other European powers were ready to snuff out the young republic but were deterred by Russia, the only European power not in the Rothschild's thrall. Czar Alexander II sent his fleets to New York and San Francisco and declared that an attack on Lincoln was an attack on Russia.

 

Meanwhile Lincoln created "greenback" dollars to finance the war and escape indebtedness to the foreign financiers. "They understood at once that the United States would escape their grip," Bismarck said." The death of Lincoln was resolved upon. Nothing is easier than to find a fanatic to strike." (180) (See also The Civil War and Control of Money. )

 

Compare this with Howard Zinn who although a Leftist, makes no mention of European financiers. His book, a soap opera of oppression, says the war was a clash of "elites."

 

"The Northern elite wanted economic expansion.... The slave interests opposed all that. " (189) Again, "The American government had set out to ... retain the enormous national territory and market and resources. " (198)

 

In other words "capitalism" in general and not the Rothschild Illuminati caused this heinous war that cost 500,000 soldiers' lives and eight billion dollars. Is it any wonder these bankers, who are the real establishment, love the Left? Is it any wonder they populate our universities with pious Leftists (and feminists) who never question why they are pulling down big salaries if they are really defying the establishment?

 

Another Leftist Pied Piper is Noam Chomsky who attributes all evil to capitalism and American imperialism. As far as I know, he never mentions the Rothschilds, the lluminati, the Council on Foreign Relations or the New World Order. He pretends that Oklamhoma City and 9-11 were not inside jobs.

 

"We shall erase from the memories of men all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us," say the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. "And leave only those which depict all the errors of the government of the goyim." (Protocol 16)

 

The problem is not American capitalism but the control of the nation's credit by a small private international group, which has used this advantage to build a monopoly in every key industry. This international group is behind western imperialism. Its totalitarian occult agenda (a.k.a, globalism) is now corporate policy.

 

The victim paradigm typically purveyed by socialists like Zinn and Chomsky creates division and diverts attention from the Illuminati bankers and their cartels. It places the blame on capitalism and the US, which has been under banker control for almost a century. It teaches each new generation to be alienated from their country, its culture and economic system, and to become dysfunctional and impotent.

 

The bankers want Big Government that they control through debt. They need the global police state to ensure that no nation defaults or rebels. The invasion of Iraq is another step in creating the bankers' "1984" tyranny.

 

 

ANTI SEMITISM

 

Anti Semitism is another tactic to divert attention from the Rothschild's Satanic plan for world tyranny. Let's stop pretending it isn't real. It is the real source of Communism, the real cause of mankind's moral paralysis and demise.

 

Cherep-Spiritovitch concludes:

 

"According to Bismarck the awful Civil War in America was fomented by a Jewish Conspiracy, and Abraham Lincoln the hero and national saint of the United States was killed by the same Hidden Hand which killed six Romanov Czars, ten kings and scores of Ministers only to easier bleed their nations." (181)

 

He is not talking about Jews in general but only those who advance the Rothschild Illuminati agenda. His book makes an appeal to righteous Jews, and recognizes that many non-Jews have sold out.

 

"The Jews should bring to bay the 'Satanists' who corrupt the countries in which they have found asylum," the Preface says: " the Gentiles should render every Judas who accepts the bribes of the Jews."

 

Why do so many Jews think they are responsible for the Rothschilds and the Illuminati? They are not. They should stop acting like they were. It looks suspicious.

 

The bankers' Satanic Conspiracy is the source of anti Semitism. The sooner Jews rise up to oppose it; the sooner anti Semitism will end.

 

Obviously many so-called Christians are involved. When I criticize Rockefeller, no one says anything about "anti Christianism."

 

Who actually is behind the terrorist attacks in Turkey last week, including those against synagogues? Throughout history the Illuminati have used terror to control people and incite war. An American agent was maimed preparing a bomb in the Philippines. These attacks may be designed to prove the war on terror is genuine rather than a flimsy pretext for a police state.

 

 

CONCLUSION

 

 

The Rothschild Illuminati Conspiracy is the essential challenge facing mankind. It must be addressed loudly and squarely. Talk of American imperialism, capitalism and "hate" (anti Semitism) is a cynical diversion.

 

The world is in the advanced stages of a diabolical multi generational conspiracy. The general method and goals have all been revealed in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Our educators, leaders and media have largely been subverted.

 

A "right wing crackpot" then is anyone who favours individual freedom and self-reliance, family, nation, race, and God. These are the things that the Illuminati needs to destroy.

 

As one-time US Presidential candidate Norman Thomas said, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

 

Substitute "Communist" for "Socialist" and you can see what in happening.

 

There is a curse that says may you "live in interesting times." This is our curse and our challenge. Let us rise to it.

 

 

 

 

 

Henry Makow, is the inventor of the board game Scruples, and the author of A Long Way to go for a Date. He received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto. He welcomes your feedback and ideas at henry@savethemales.ca.

Edited November 27, 2003 by hagopn

[Vigil]

Has anyone read the material? Ok you may think it is a really absurd, but it could be true? I mean they have proven that Free Masonary was a political elite responsible for such events as the Boston Tea Party? Why is everyone such a sap, sucker, or silent?

 

If Hagopn is reading this nice post!

Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil

[Anonymouse]

Hagopn, you have touched on a subject that I am very familiar with and passionate about. I have heard of that website and I have read numerous articles by Makow. Some of the things he says are true, and many other things are not, like everything else, however to the inquisitive mind, further research is always a must and necessary.

 

I have read Icke, I have several of his books, as well as Zechariah Sitchin's "The 12th Planet" and William Bramley's "The Gods of Eden", Jim Marrs' "Rule by Secrecy", "Crossfire", "Alien Agenda", and perhaps the best work on a conspiratorial view of world history that doesn't veer off too far into the realm of "insanity" is none other than Carrol Quigley, in his monumental work, "Tragedy and Hope" and "The Anglo-American Establishment". As far as Icke goes, he offers alot of factual information that can be helpful, but what he essentially does is try to weave a web of "reptilian agenda" around a few facts. Indeed there is truth to the symbolism of the serpent in all cultures, but I don't see that as being enough evidence to somehow suggest that our leaders are "reptilian shape shifters".

 

Essentially there are too views two history, the accidental view, or the conspiratorial, the latter being the one based on cause and effect;causation, the initial being nothing more than the fortuitous conflict of good and evil and haphazardness.

 

I myself, when reviewing certain events within what we call "history" can easily see conspiratorial machinations. Many events can have evidence corroborate the assertions of it being conspiratorial, however it is an incredibly difficult and arduous task to build a historic model on the conspiratorial view of history. Education institutions, the State, and the media, all stress the nature of the accidental view of events and history, and we have been hearing this since birth from every orifice of communication. Perhaps there is truth to what Marx and historical materialism state that individuals make choices, but only within the confines of what they are given. Of course one can sit here and punch holes in historical materialism, but nonetheless. The conspiratorial model would suggest that Marx himself is a product of these "hidden forces" that are "guiding history", the "illuminated ones".

 

Anyway I don't have enough time right now to get too much into details, but I'll wish for further development of this thread. I read the article and I can safely say that there is alot of truth to it, and alot of unsubstantiated assertions as well. But it is an entirely broad article outlining hundreds of years of history. Perhaps we can take it point by point? In any event, you have touched upon and started a really good thread. As to what it has to do with Armenians, I am unaware, but I do remember reading how the British Rothschild banking dynasty, etc., etc., had something to do with refusing to help the Armenians during the Genocide, or blah blah I don't remember it clearly, but I have tried researching it and with no luck. In any event, I hope this thread keeps growing.

 

Cheers!

 

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How does one explain these?

Edited February 16, 2004 by Anonymouse

[Teutonic Knight]

Guys where do you buy the tinfoil hats?

[Anonymouse]

Guys where do you buy the tinfoil hats?

I make them in my garage. If you come by around 3:33 p.m. sharp, you can purchase one for a lump sum of $0.47 cents.

[Vigil]

They sell the hats at Home Depot! Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil

[hagopn]

[Essentially there are too views two history, the accidental view, or the conspiratorial, the latter being the one based on cause and effect;causation, the initial being nothing more than the fortuitous conflict of good and evil and haphazardness.

 

(After three years) Good point. How silly is it to eliminate consdpiracy when it comes to organized effort such as state building, large scale commerce, large scale military operations, colonialism, imperialism? It just so happens that "the BritishEmpire became holder of 1/4 of the surface mass of the Earth by some backgammon accident"?

 

I myself, when reviewing certain events within what we call "history" can easily see conspiratorial machinations. Many events can have evidence corroborate the assertions of it being conspiratorial, however it is an incredibly difficult and arduous task to build a historic model on the conspiratorial view of history.

 

Anything conspiratorial by default involved erasing one's tracks. Does that make the theory any less credible? Makow has a single thread of thought, and, to his credit, he has adjusted when new data has contradicted or varied a bit from his paradigm.

 

Education institutions, the State, and the media, all stress the nature of the accidental view of events and history, and we have been hearing this since birth from every orifice of communication. Perhaps there is truth to what Marx and historical materialism state that individuals make choices, but only within the confines of what they are given. Of course one can sit here and punch holes in historical materialism, but nonetheless. The conspiratorial model would suggest that Marx himself is a product of these "hidden forces" that are "guiding history", the "illuminated ones".

 

Why hidden? Marx came from a very strongly Jewish past, and Jewish political tradition, rich as it is, has its definite ideas on government, on social construction and engineering. Maimon was a strong student of Platonic republicanism.

 

Anyway I don't have enough time right now to get too much into details, but I'll wish for further development of this thread. I read the article and I can safely say that there is alot of truth to it, and alot of unsubstantiated assertions as well. But it is an entirely broad article outlining hundreds of years of history. Perhaps we can take it point by point? In any event, you have touched upon and started a really good thread. As to what it has to do with Armenians, I am unaware, but I do remember reading how the British Rothschild banking dynasty, etc., etc., had something to do with refusing to help the Armenians during the Genocide, or blah blah I don't remember it clearly, but I have tried researching it and with no luck. In any event, I hope this thread keeps growing.

 

Well, I hope you're still on this forum!---

 

I posted a link about John Perkins, a fascinating fellow who corroborates my thesis of a silent and undetected empire.