Sip Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 By the way, here's an interesting trick if you have your own domain name (I might have mentioned this here before). So I own Sip.com ... I can basically receive any email addressed to anything@Sip.com ... so now, when I register somewhere or give someone my email address, I give a customized version. For example, if I am registering at ebay, I'd register using ebay1@Sip.com or something similar ... for paypal I may use paypal@Sip.com and so forht (not always but you get the idea). Then once the junk starts rolling in, I can know exactly where and how my email was "leaked" to these "services". ... and here may be a shocker for you vava ... a friend of mine listed a vehicle for sale in a newspaper ad (print only). The particular email he used there almost instantly (within a week) ended up on one of these junk service provider's lists!!!! Unbelievable. So it's not just from an online source that they seem to harvest their "intelligence" info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Azatikus, with outlook you can filter based on the body of the message (not just subject). But I totally agree with you that filtering spam effectively needs more sophisticated solutions than just simple rule-based techniques ... Actually I just installed Office 2003 in the office which has the new Outlook. I haven't had a chance to play with it much .. but just by first impressions, it seems to be MUCH improved and changed so I'm guessing their "filters" are also much more sophisticated. The reason I know this is that it already detected a few junk emails and asked me if I wanted it to automatically move them to the trash can. In all cases it was right! So based on my initial impressions, I recommend the upgrade for outlook 2003 at least if not for the entire office package (not sure if that's possible). ---Edit More info on Outlook 2003 spam filters (not freeware unfortunately) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted November 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 I use Outlook, Azat. Will probably follow your advice when I can commit focus to the subject again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeForChange Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 I've been with Yahoo for 6 years, and I've NEVER received a single spam. I used to receive 3-4 per day when I was with hotmail. Conclusion: maybe you should change your e-mail address, instead of wasting money on another software. And, don't write that you live in the USA, or you'll increase your chances of getting spam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Very interesting because I just recently got my name @yahoo.com and did not give that email to ANYONE. 3 days later I have about 10 messages in it from spammers so I just gave up on that account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Azat, yahoo does a pretty good job of filtering those into a "bulk" folder. Maybe it's an option you have to enable? I'm not sure. But remember it's not fool proof since your email ended up in there that time. Hmmm ... or maybe it is foolproof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 I lost plenty of legit mail with Yahoo. That's why i no longer use yahoo. Best options I find are server side - but then, they're not for everyone. I'll have to try outclass... when I get some extra time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 I lost plenty of legit mail with Yahoo. That's why i no longer use yahoo. Best options I find are server side - but then, there not for everyone. I'll have to try outclass... when I get some extra time Yeh, me too, Yahoo was adding them in the junk folder, and I was deleting them by accident without knowing that those mails were not junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Wow! You two must be getting some pretty interesting "regular" mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 (edited) I have several fastmail accounts and never get/got spam unless I signed up to stupid places like any of the Virtual Countries accounts. So far it is all clean (except for the Nigerians begging me to help them out - and that's just one account). Edited November 8, 2003 by Stormy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 I have several fastmail accounts and never get/got spam unless I signed up to stupid places like any of the Virtual Countries accounts. So far it is all clean (except for the Nigerians begging me to help them out - and that's just one account). Virtualcountries sell your email address without your knowledge and without telling they will do it when you register... one of their many illegal activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted November 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Virtualcountries sell your email address without your knowledge and without telling they will do it when you register... one of their many illegal activities. Since I activated the web based spam protection with a request to block the suspicious email, I am experiencing much relief. Thanks for all suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 No. I mean the large numbers of "very attractive" electronic proposals to improve my physiological and financial future. if that was meant to be sarcastic, GREAT JOB!!!! laughing my a$$$$$ off!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 i got some weird message from some armenian guy sevag madjarian (smadjarian@netsys.am) from plaxo.com telling me to update my contact info...what the hell is this?????? plz help lol i blocked him though lately weird people have been adding me to their contact lists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 skit, there are some worms and viruses that go through people's computers and send random messages like that ... so that person may not even know that message was sent from him or her to you. Moreover, that messge may not even be from him or her ... just disguised to look like that. I have gotten plenty of messages like that (most including virus attachments) from old friends, people that I didn't even remember, and friends of friends that I never met! Just recently I got a message from an Armenian guy that had a virus. I emailed him back telling him that his computer may be infected ... well, it turned out that the message didn't come from him but from someone we both know! These viruses are creating new ways of social contact! You discover people in places you never knew were so closely related to you ... or maybe that sevag guy had a big crush on you, put your email in his address book, but never got the courage to say something!!!! ... and now he has a virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 oh my god i have a virus?! lol but my antivirus didnt find anything! what should i do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 no don't worry too much. If you don't open any bad attachments, you probably wont' get a virus. The infected computer sent those emails. You just received them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 um i opened the email but i didnt open anything else in it...no more opening emails from strangers no matter how "familiar" they might seem...even armenians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Opening the email is not a problem usually. It's opening the attachments that can be bad. So don't worry about reading the text ... just don't try to access the attachments unless you are sure what they are (best to scan them with a virus checker)... this is even if the email appears to be from a friend. But things like yahoo mail already filter and get rid of some bad attachments for you. Outlook will also not let you see potentially bad attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 ok thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Virginia Arrests Man for Spam Email Under New Law DULLES, Va. (Reuters) - Virginia authorities said on Thursday they had arrested and charged a North Carolina man for sending "spam" e-mail in the first use of a new state law that could bring penalties of up to 20 years in prison. Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore said Jeremy Jaynes had been arrested earlier Thursday in Raleigh, N.C., on four counts of using fraudulent means to transmit spam. Kilgore told a news conference that officials were in negotiations for the surrender of a second man, Richard Rutowski, on the same charges. Jaynes was charged with violating limits on the number of messages a marketer can send and falsifying routing information, both illegal under the Virginia law that carries penalties of 1-5 years in prison on each count. Although based in North Carolina, Virginia is asserting jurisdiction over Jaynes because he sent messages through computers located in the state. Roughly 50 percent of the world's Internet traffic passes through Virginia, home to big Internet companies like Time Warner Inc.'s (NYSE:TWX - news) American Online unit and MCI (Other OTC:WCOEQ - news). Spam has grown from a minor annoyance to a major threat to the stability of the Internet, experts say, and now makes up more than half of all e-mail traffic, according to several surveys. "These criminals are harming businesses in Virginia, and that concerns us," Kilgore told the news conference at AOL headquarters in Dulles, Va. Oh YAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .. Fry the Flocker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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