hunny Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 http://www.theonion.com/onion3744/woman_in_burqa.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 What a shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 You guys this is the onion. It is all a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 http://www.theonion.com/onion3744/woman_in_burqa.html Awesome - very funny. And yes Azat - it is the reality of this (not so far offf at all from the truth) - which is so very sad...and in general - the way women are marginalized in so many societies and in so many ways...its just criminal IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 LMAO! That's a pretty funny story ... I especially liked the caption on the pic "Above: The burqa-wearing Salah, who is outraged by Asaad's (far right) immodest dress." Sounds like some of the stuff you'd hear in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 just another example of women bearing all responsibility for male sexual urges...THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT!!! ---i'm beginning to think that in that dreaded part of the world, since sex/sexuality is something 'sinful' and women kind o' remind men of sex!!...therefore, women must be bad/evil!!! this is just backwards fundamentalist logic!! truely truely sad!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Hello everyone. I am new to the forum. It is so sad that a WOMAN was the one condemning the other woman's "immodest"dress. Women in that part of the world have internalized the rediculous idea that their bodies are sinful and they must hide them as to not tempt men. What is even sadder is that this kind of stuff goes on in modern societies also. In my mind, it's just as criminal that most women fall into today's image of feminine beauty and all the pain and suffering they go through to be attractive for the opposite sex. What about the fact that on average, women still earn significantly less for the exact same job as compared to men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 What about the fact that on average, women still earn significantly less for the exact same job as compared to men? Uh oh... Don't let Azat hear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 It is true. Women make less than men. Women are still perceived as the second provider, not the main one. From a strictly economic poin of view women tend to procriate what is a nuisance to their careers and the firms that employ them. Women in the workplace can be distraction and these days be a potential source of serious legal problems. Do not read this wrongly. I am not against many of the improvements that have been brought about, it is just that often feminists have opted forthe wrong targets, aiming at equality as if men and women were the same in every regard. As we know thankfully that is not the case and hence equality and "sameness" are too different things and should be dealt with appropriately, lest you end up in a worse situation than before in many cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 What about the fact that on average, women still earn significantly less for the exact same job as compared to men? Ho oh, here we go again. (just kidding) I disagree. here we talked about this before in case you wish to read it. http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3356 By the way. Men are 9 times more likely to be killed at the job. Should they be compensated more for taking the "risky" jobs?(I don't know, I am just stating a fact and asking a question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Azat, thank you for the link. After reading everyone's comments my perspective on the topic is similar to Thoth's. When you say that as a businessman you would choose a man over a woman if they were equally qualified because a woman is more likely to take time off for kids, family related issues etc., how would you as an employer know that the woman you're interviewing is not a career woman who has no kids or has a husband who takes primary care of their kids? It's illegal to ask a prospective employee questions regarding his/her marital status/familial status. So when an employer favores a man over an equally qualified woman, isn't that an unjust discrimination? As far as men being more likely to get killed at their jobs (sorry, I don't know how to use the QUOTE feature correctly), I think ANYONE should be compensated more for taking risky jobs and if more men choose to take the risky jobs then they should be paid more for them. Sip, with regards to women in general being more nurturing than men, I agree. But I don't think it is biological. In fact, infant boys tend to be more emotional than girls. It is only due to the differences in their upbringing that girls learn to develop their emotional/nurturing characteristics while boys don't. Most parents tend to teach their daughters to be more nurturing and encourage them to express their emotions, whereas boys are taught to supress their emotions and be taugh (I'm not sure about the spelling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Sip, with regards to women in general being more nurturing than men, I agree.. Although it sounded like something I would say, it took me a bit to realize you were referring to the other thread! I don't know alexx ... maybe it is my upbringing ... but I just don't feel like crying every time a guy gives flowers to his girlfriend on TV; I really couldn't care less if the counter top in the kitchen is white, purple, blue, blak, red, or even chartreuse; and at about 4 AM in the morning, if I hear a baby crying, my first reaction would be to utilize my 30 dB rated ear plugs I use when target shooting the 9mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Azat, thank you for the link. After reading everyone's comments my perspective on the topic is similar to Thoth's. When you say that as a businessman you would choose a man over a woman if they were equally qualified because a woman is more likely to take time off for kids, family related issues etc., how would you as an employer know that the woman you're interviewing is not a career woman who has no kids or has a husband who takes primary care of their kids? It's illegal to ask a prospective employee questions regarding his/her marital status/familial status. So when an employer favores a man over an equally qualified woman, isn't that an unjust discrimination? As far as men being more likely to get killed at their jobs (sorry, I don't know how to use the QUOTE feature correctly), I think ANYONE should be compensated more for taking risky jobs and if more men choose to take the risky jobs then they should be paid more for them. Sip, with regards to women in general being more nurturing than men, I agree. But I don't think it is biological. In fact, infant boys tend to be more emotional than girls. It is only due to the differences in their upbringing that girls learn to develop their emotional/nurturing characteristics while boys don't. Most parents tend to teach their daughters to be more nurturing and encourage them to express their emotions, whereas boys are taught to supress their emotions and be taugh (I'm not sure about the spelling). Alexx, i am the kind of guy who would hire the female prospective employee vs the male if all else are equal. In fact I would probably even give her a bit more of a benefit then the male(Sip, do not comment on this), however I would also promote that person in comparison to her work. If she does take more time off(notice I said IF) and she spends less time at work and the others(male or female) spend more time I would give bigger promotions and raises to the others. I do judge people based on work and nothing else. And I think corporate America is the same. Sip, you are mission out on so much in life. It is so refreshing to cry each time a friend gets flowers from a boyfriend, or when you hear that a close friend is pregnant, or when ... ahhh who am I kidding, it's just weird when women cry all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones98 Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 mmmm, no wonder!That story is about the Pashton people...They are really strict in afghanistan, except for the farsi people who live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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