Arpa Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Everything said in the following may be relevent. http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showt...t=0entry55155 Boghos, you know that "pezevenk" is in fact an Armenian word that originally was "boz-avag" i.e whore master. It is in fact used in that sense. Some also mentioned "pusht" which invariably goes in tandem as in "pusht-pezevenk".I never knew what it meant except that it was supposed to be a great insult. The Greeks use it too as "pushti". I thought it meant something like lowlife, rat, cheat, a disloyal person, a traitor. Now that someone did say that it means catamite it all makes sense. BTW, the Arabs use the expression too, but since there is no P in the Arabic they would say "busht besewank" (there is no V in Arabic either). When one looks up "posht"(pyur-vo-sha-tyun) in the Bararan it refers one to "busht"(ben-ou-sha-tyun).Tey are both supposed to mean (urinary)bladder, mizaman. However when one reads carefully one can see a slight nuance as posht generally refers to the bladder while busht more often than not refers to the sac that holds the testicles i.e. scrotum.Also consider "pshtik", a diminutive form of posht that usually means a boil, as in acne, a small bladder, a small sac. Is it possible that the other "pusht" used as an insult, a catmite may have somehow derived from the Armenian posht/busht?For one, all the words point to something below the belt be they anatomical or allegorical. Since we are talking about "boz" that is supposed to mean a whore, it is interesting to note that the word is believed to have come from the Laz language "bozo" where it simply mean girl, virgin, daughter. Now, you tell me how an innocent word like that ends up to be such a horrible one? There are other examples, like in the Parisian slang "fille" which means nothing more than girl/daughter is also used in the other sense, just like the German "dirne" which literally means miss/maiden (oriord) is also used to mean whore.Remember when we were talking about Mary Magdalene and the demonization of woman? A story. A colleague of mine who was from India and spoke good English with some regional defects or nuances, was having a tough time with a lady customer. He kept calling her "madame". I knew that the lady would eventually say something when she finally started screaming and told him to please also not call her madame. My colleague came to me and told me that he could not understand why the lady became so angry when he was trying to be so respectful calling her "madame". I told him to just finish the business in an amicable way then I would give him a small lacture on American idiom/slang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 K'aknem! This word means ugly in Turkish language but means "oh s***" in Armenian. Is it right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 It means "I will s***." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Sorry There is a song named DUDU singed by Tarkan. Does dudu mean "old woman" in Armenian??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 K'aknem! This word means ugly in Turkish language but means "oh s***" in Armenian. Is it right??? In a previous I surmised if Caucasian is looking for his roots.Could it be that he a Hamshenite?I had never heard of that "turkish" expression, specially to mean "ugly". It is plainly Armenian. Where does he know that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 (edited) I am sure of my roots. You told that you never heard about kaknem because you can't know Turkish language better than me. Turkish lan. contains that word. Al-Qabiz... Edited August 30, 2003 by Caucasian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I am sure of my roots. You told that you never heard about kaknem because you can't know Turkish language better than me. Turkish lan. contains that word. Al-Qabiz... You call yourself a Turk?You claim to know the that nonextistence languge?Can you read Osmanli and understand it?Do you know Arabic and Persian where more than 50% of socallled Turkish is hidden?Whe you learn the above languages in addition to Armenian then we will talk about language.Yes, Al Qabiz..the fat one, or is it the the "constipated one"?!!Typical!ly Turkish?"Diarrhea of the "mouth" coupled" with "constipation of the brain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I know kaknem is a word from Armenian language.I'm not a Turk but according to livin' in Turkey and being educated in Turkish, I know that language very well(even if it's nonexistent). I can not read Ottoman because it's written in Arabic alphabet but I can understand %70 if written in Latin because of the similar words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arian Zinavorents Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 pusht pusht is from pushtiban …..? pushtiban is the persian of pashtban which means guard in pahlavi and (or) in armenian. In this case it means the guard of the whores There is also Kavat/Gavad in armenian language which is loaned from arabic قواد It means somebody who shows the path (arradjnord) , in this case, the way which take us to the girls Dudu I was wanting to ask somebody about Dudu, because so many times, i heard Genocide stories where dudu mami or Dudu nana is the hero of the event. Is it from Tatik or Dadik (grand mother in grabar armenian)? sorry because of my English Johannes Zinavorents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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