" Iraqistan " = " Afganistan "

[joseph parikian]

Is the United States geting into the same situation in Iraq as the Soviet Union did in Afganistan

Is the United States geting traped in the quicksands of Iraq

It started with atacks on the American soldiers using small arms and hand graneds and now it is suicide car bombs , the Jordanian Embesy two weeks ago and now the United Nations Head Quarters

My opinion is that who ever planed this war on Iraq in the Pentagon shoold go there to clear the mess

In my humble opinion I cant see a happy ending to this situation

[vava]

Well joseph, I don't about the eventual outcome of the situation in Iraq. An environment of gorilla warfare benefits no one, i suppose. But The recent events give cause to some questions: who is funding the 'rebels'? supplying them with munitions? Theses recent attacks don't seem like there simple grass-roots resistance....

 

We remember that in afganistan, the americans did their utmost to discretely keep the soviets in a precarious situation. So who (out of a number of groups) could be responsible for supporting the actions in Iraq?

[joseph parikian]

Dear Vava you are forgeting that there was well trained Republican Guerd unites and the Fedayis of Saddam togather their numbers are close to one million

About the armes and amunition there are stockpiles of them all over Iraq

Dont you see that we are not seing the defence secretery mr. Rumsfeld in news conferences as we use to see him in the begining

What i said was that he should go there and see on the ground what is going on and try to talk to the soldiers and fined a solution for this big mess

I know that the majority of Iraqis dont like Saddam but they also hate the United States as much

[joseph parikian]

This is from the Daily Mirror in London

 

ATTACK ON THE UN: IRAQI CHAOS 'IS AMERICA'S FAULT'

 

Aug 20 2003

 

 

20 die as bombers hit UN aid workers in Iraq

 

By Tom Newton Dunn, Defence Correspondent

 

 

IRAQ is in chaos as America's plans to rebuild the country fail, it was claimed last night.

 

Former US Assistant Secretary of State James Rubin spoke out after suicide bombers killed at least 24 people at the UN headquarters in Baghdad.

 

He said the Bush administration had "dropped the ball massively" since ousting Saddam Hussein and allowed terrorist groups to operate.

 

The plan to return the country to the Iraqi people had failed "spectacularly", leading to a collapse in law and order.

 

He added: "The real problem is chaos - the chaos that has allowed terrorist organisations and others to come into Iraq where, let's remember, they weren't before."

 

The bombers drove a concrete lorry packed full of explosives into the Canal Hotel, the UN base.

 

The front of the three-storey building collapsed, leaving more than 100 injured and dozens trapped.

 

Among the dead was the UN special representative Sergio Vieira de Mello. The 55-year-old Brazilian, trapped in the rubble, made frantic calls to rescuers on his mobile but they could not reach him in time.

 

Briton Fiona Watson, who worked for him, and Canadian Christopher Klein-Beekman, Unicef children's fund chief, were also killed. Charred human remains were discovered in the crater left by the bomb and body parts were scattered around.

 

The dead were lined up in white bodybags in the car park, which became a temporary mortuary. The injured waited in the garden for ambulances and helicopters to take them to hospital.

 

A quick reaction force of 100 American soldiers battled alongside civilians to free trapped victims.

 

It was revealed that US forces were supposed to have been in charge of security at the "soft" civilian target.

 

Witnesses said the lorry may have been waved through several checkpoints before crashing through a security barrier.

 

The toll is the highest since the war. A furious UN spokesman said workers were distributing humanitarian aid and helping Iraqis develop a free press and justice system.

 

At least 15 of the dead were UN workers, the others Iraqi civilians.

 

The blast was so big that windows a mile away were blown out. As darkness fell, rescuers were still searching for survivors.

 

FBI investigators also arrived and began to sift through the rubble wearing rubber gloves.

 

Several UK journalists at a press conference were injured. One, Grant Hodgson, carried victims to safety.

 

He said: "A stream of walking wounded ran, many screaming, to the press room covered in dust and blood. Disoriented and with no lights, they desperately searched for an exit. I took people's hands, directing them to the door.

 

"Some were bleeding heavily and could not walk. I carried one over my shoulder, stumbling into the sunshine. I carried six more outside, their blood soaking my clothes.

 

"Bloodied bodies lay on the grass. Some were with US army medics while others were already dead.

 

"Many had makeshift bandages - the bloodsoaked clothes of others lucky enough to escape.

 

"I was offered treatment but my gashed left leg was barely even an injury compared with the carnage I could see all around me."

 

Suspicion focused on the militant group Ansar al-Islam, which has links to al-Qaeda and is believed to have bombed the Jordanian embassy in Baghdad two weeks ago, killing 17 people.

 

UN secretary general Kofi Annan said last night: "Nothing can excuse this act of unprovoked and murderous violence."

 

President George Bush called the killers "enemies of the civilised world...they have again shown their contempt for the innocent, their fear of progress and their hatred of peace."

 

Tony Blair, still on holiday in Barbados, said: "The perpetrators demonstrated pure cowardice."