Azat Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 An interesting article that some may want to read. http://marshallbrain.com/robotic-nation.htm here are a few small quotes "A processor in 2002 is 10,000 times faster than a processor in 1982 was. This trend has been in place for decades, and there is nothing to indicate that it will slow down any time soon. Scientists and engineers always get around the limitations that threaten Moore's law by developing new technologies." "A 10 MEGAbyte hard disk cost about $1,000 in 1982. Today you can buy a 250 GIGAbyte drive that is twice as fast for $350. Today's drive is 25,000 times bigger and costs one-third the price of the 1982 model..." "In the same time period -- 1982 to 2002 -- standard RAM (Random Access Memory) available in a home machine has gone from 64 KILObytes to 128 MEGAbytes -- it improved by of factor of 2,000." "What if we simply extrapolate out, taking the idea that every 20 years things improve by a factor of 1,000 or 10,000? What we get is a machine in 2020 that has a processor running at something like 10 trillion operations per second. It has a TERAbyte of RAM and one or two PETAbytes of storage space (a petabyte is one quadrillion bytes)." "What if we extrapolate ANOTHER 20 years after that, to 2040? A typical home machine at that point will be 1,000 times faster than the 2020 machine. Human brains are thought to be able to process at a rate of approximately one quadrillion operations per second. A CPU in the 2040 time frame could have the processing power of a human brain, and it will cost $1,000. It will have a PETAbyte (one quadrillion bytes) of RAM. It will have one EXAbyte of storage space. An exabyte is 1,000 quadrillion bytes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I feel that this has been already posted... It's like a deja-vu... I guess there is a problem with the Matrix, that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 for a second I did not get it Fadiushka, but I remembered that you are Domino now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Yes - we may want to just smash all the machines now - eh? And save the human race lots of trouble (& much much worse) in the future... Of course I see the machine--organic interface as the next step...and I think it will soon be here (for better or worse)...my my my I do see ethics issues galore..and perhaps the death of the old religioins (though they have certainly proved resiliant even in the face of discovery...so maybe it is human ignorance more then machine intelligence that we should fear....always...). Anyway an interesting (but perhaps somewhat frightening) future - extrme genetic manipulation, machine intelligence & what not...and who knows what pertebations not yet thought of.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Azat, were you perhaps considering a career in McDonalds and thus found this article when you were trying to do research about the future of such a career? ... I think the house painter gig is going to be better in the long run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 (edited) THOTH, religions will probably never die, we build our world based on what we believe on. We creat our reality. The next step would be Quantum computer, with Quantum superpositions... hehehehe... with such a thing, by loading the Quantum states of our brain connections, then destroying the orginal, slowing down the time referencial. We could be loaded and be immortal, in a system which every entities could creat its own universe. The entire system will be so small, that in a high speed of 1/3 of the speed of light we could induce a Quantum superposition, and passing it drough the 11nt dimension, so that it become for ever existing without respecting the entropic ending. So, how do you find this proposition? Our technology may creat what religions proposes, our resurection. Edited August 4, 2003 by Fadix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 So, how do you find this proposition? Our technology may creat what religions proposes, our resurection. Now there's a quote! I got a new signature (slight edit, hope you don't mind) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 So, how do you find this proposition? Our technology may creat what religions proposes, our resurection. Now there's a quote! I got a new signature (slight edit, hope you don't mind) No I don't mind, just one thing, take off McFarti, before I come and spank you, so that you will never be able to fart again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Ok just because I feel in a good mood today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted August 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Azat, were you perhaps considering a career in McDonalds and thus found this article when you were trying to do research about the future of such a career? ... I think the house painter gig is going to be better in the long run would you like fries with that sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted August 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Did I ever tell you the system I worked on for McDonald's on my last job? It is implemented at 170 kiosks in Philippines. It is not only a touch screen order system, but you can also use voice. Although the voice part that I worked on did not work too well in their test market of Philippians because of accent problems. I wonder if I have a picture of that product somewhere. I have to look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted August 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Sip, now read this news I just got: http://robots.net/article/913.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 It was BOUND to happen ... unskilled labor being replaced by machines and skilled labor being replaced with the unskilled (in India for example). So what's left? I guess we "skilled" guys will have nothing to do but to eat burgers all day made by robots who were programmed by unskilled people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 (edited) Speaking of robotic nation...---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Japan ready to market "robot suit"Thu Aug 21, 4:40 AM ET Add Technology - AFP to My Yahoo! TOKYO (AFP) - Japanese companies are preparing for the commercial launch of a "robot suit" that helps aged or physically disabled people walk, get up the stairs or seat themselves to relax without a chair. http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20030821/capt.sge.sff34.210803083342.photo00.default-243x384.jpg Trading house Mitsui and Co. and some 30 other Tokyo firms plan to set up a joint-venture in April or May next year to market the powered suit developed by Yoshiyuki Sankai, professor and engineer at Tsukuba University, officials said Thursday. "This is neither a robot in machine factories nor a one for amusement like a pet robot. This is a brand-new proposal projecting a future image of relations between people and robots," Sankai said. "The suit practically supports people's life, focusing on the strong point of robots," Sankai said. The powered suit, code-named HAL-3 (Hybrid Assistive Leg), consists of a computer and batteries in the backpack as well as four actuators attached around the knees and hip joints. The motor-powered devices guide movement of the legs as the computer calculates the user's next motion by detecting faint electric signals from the muscle, the professor said. With the equipment, the user can walk at a speed of four kilometres (2.5 miles) per hour with little physical exertion and avoid the jerky stop-go moves of ordinary robots. As a first step, the new venture plans to lease or sell 10 prototypes next year, targetting hospitals and nursing-care facilities at home and abroad, Sankai said. A mid-term goal for the project is to sell some 100 suits a year at a price of one million yen (8,440 dollars). Sankai also noted that Japan's greying society was a key consideration behind the development of the suit. "As the country is heading rapidly towards an ageing society, the demand for such a robotic support system will certainly grow," the professor said. "Not only the elderly but also disabled people will be able to live comfortably, leaving heavy physical tasks to the suit," he said. The need for Japan to take measures to deal with its ageing society is increasingly urgent. The proportion of people aged 65 or older in Japan came to a record high of 18.82 percent, according to the latest government report on population released on Wednesday. Improvements to the suit are already being worked on. The weight of the system will be soon reduced from the current 17 kilogrammes (37 pounds) to some 10 kilogrammes, while the projecting part of the actuators will be halved to five centimetres (one and three quarter inches). "We have also started developing a version for arms," Sankai said. "Eventually, we aim to make a suit that is thin enough to be worn like underwear and will allow users to run and move their arms freely." Japan was in the vanguard of robotic technology, developing industry robots in the post-war period of rapid economic expansion, and has recently enjoyed a boom in leisure-oriented robots and talking, walking humanoid robots, developed by major Japanese firms such as Sony and Honda Motor. Edited August 21, 2003 by Sasun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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