Gul In Washington

[America-Hye]

Looks like the Turks and the Bush Administration are going to "kiss and make up." The US needs the Turks for upcoming invsions of Iran and Syria. The job will not be complete until all Islamic regimes are removed from Damascus to Kabul.

 

500,000 copies of a Turkish propaganda piece have been sold in Turkey disputing the Ararat movie and the Genocide, something that most elderly Turks know about. It is to re-indoctrinate the younger generation of Turks. The Turkish military command had their imput into this publication. It is to forge the Turks to unify against the tide they see coming from outside. A military solution to a national black historical mark.

[THOTH]

Yes - here's further evidence of that. Looks as though Washingotn will allow Turkey to deploy 3 Brigades into Iraq to figh the (so-called) PKK...to assuage Turksih national Pride...

 

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EG23Ak02.html

 

I'll make a bet now that more troops are to follow...

[Arpa]

I can't say it any better except that we may stop reading Turkish rags and taking them as the "gospel truth", just as "truth" as it pertains Armeno-Turkish relations or the lack thereof. The less the better for us!

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Armenians Should Not Help

Spread Turkish Propaganda

By Harut Sassounian

California Courier Publisher

 

Ever since the Turkish Parliament's rejection of stationing American troops

in Turkey for the purpose of invading Iraq, the Turkish government has lost

a great deal of support in Washington. This Turkish betrayal has not only

angered large segments of the American public, but also the overwhelming

majority of the members of Congress. Even more importantly, Pentagon's

pro-Turkish hawks have been so embarrassed by this unexpected Turkish

disloyalty that they have become highly critical of Turkey for the first

time.

As a result, the U.S. government has not only cut back substantially its

own aid to Turkey, but has also created serious obstacles for the

multi-billion dollar loan package to be provided by the International

Monetary Fund. Furthermore, Turkey has been reduced to the role of a

spectator in the critical developments taking place in neighboring Iraq,

particularly in the Kurdish region.

In the past two weeks, Turkish-American relations have become particularly

aggravated after U.S. forces captured 11 Turkish soldiers in Northern Iraq

for plotting to assassinate the Kurdish Mayor of Kirkuk. The Turkish public

went into a total frenzy when they learned that the Americans had treated

the Turkish soldiers like al-Qaida terrorists by handcuffing and

blindfolding them before whisking them by helicopter to Baghdad for

interrogation. Even though the Turkish soldiers were eventually released,

particularly after Prime Minister Erdogan made several frantic phone calls

to Vice President Dick Cheney, the Turks never got the apology that they

had demanded from Washington. On the contrary, the Americans put the Turks

on a shorter leash as far as their military activities in Iraq are

concerned!

As the Turkish public was getting increasingly disgruntled with Erdogan's

series of missteps, the Turkish government started looking for an issue on

which it could declare quick victory in order to boost its tarnished image

at home. Its best bet was the pending Senate resolution on the Genocide

Convention which included a passing reference to the Armenian Genocide. The

resolution had garnered 30 co-sponsors, short of the 51 votes needed to

assure its passage. Knowing that the Bush administration was already

opposed to this bill, the Turks tried to show that the United States was

backing Turkey on this issue just like in the good old days!

The Turkish media reported that Erdogan, during his conversation with

Cheney, asked the Vice President to oppose the Genocide resolution.

Capitalizing on the fact that one of the Senators had filed an amendment to

possibly attach the Genocide resolution to the State Department

Authorization Bill, the Turkish media started regularly reporting that the

Genocide bill was about to come up for a vote at any moment. The Turks,

claiming that Cheney was busily contacting Senators asking them to vote

against this resolution, declared victory on a daily basis for allegedly

succeeding in preventing the bill from coming up for a vote.

While it is understandable why the Turks would put out self-serving

propaganda in order to push their agenda forward, it is not at all

understandable why the Armenian media would be disseminating these Turkish

lies as fact, thereby misleading the Armenians into thinking that they were

defeated once again in seeking the recognition of the Genocide.

The fact is that the resolution on the Genocide Convention has not yet been

scheduled for a vote. The Turks should not be given any credit for killing

a bill that is still pending in the Senate. It was the height of absurdity

for the Turks to claim that they were able to prevent this bill from

approval on Friday, July 18, when in fact the Senate did not even meet on

that day! Why would the Armenian State TV, the press in Armenia as well as

in the Diaspora report these Turkish allegations as fact? Why would the

Armenians get the news about this resolution from Turkish sources rather

than from the press releases of their own political organizations?

The Genocide resolution now has 31 co-sponsors in the Senate and more are

joining on a weekly basis. Last week, Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minnesota)

became the latest co-sponsor. If this bill were dead, why would a U.S.

Senator lend his name to it? This resolution is also supported by a

coalition of more than 60 Jewish, Bulgarian, Laotian, Greek, Arab, Italian,

Liberian, Cambodian and Armenian groups as well as religious and human and

civil rights organizations. The Turkish press has prominently mentioned

that the American Jewish Committee (AJC) has written a letter opposing this

resolution. This claim is another propaganda ploy to show that "the Jews"

are backing Turkey once again!

While it is sadly true that the AJC has sent a letter to some Senators

opposing this bill, what the Turks do not report is that 15 other

Jewish-American organizations have lent their names in support of the

resolution. They are: American Friends of the Alliance Israelite

Universelle (NY), American Jewish League of Israel (NY), American Jewish

World Service (NY), Brookdale College Center of Holocaust Studies (NJ),

Consultative Council of Jewish Organizations (NY), Council of Jewish

Education (NY), Federation of Jewish Men's Clubs (NY), Friends of the New

England Holocaust Memorial (MA), Jewish Community Relations Council of

Greater Boston (MA), Jewish Funders Network (NY), Jewish War Veterans of

the USA (Wash., DC), National Committee for Labor Israel (NY),

Reconstructionist Rabbinical College (NY), The Center for Russian Jewry

with Student Struggle for Soviet Jewry (NY), and Union of Orthodox Rabbis

(NY).

It is shameful that the AJC would continue supporting the Turkish deniers

of the Armenian Genocide. Given the fact that 15 other Jewish groups

support this bill, it is obvious that the AJC leaders are out of touch with

the sentiments of their own community. Furthermore, it is highly peculiar

that a Jewish group would lobby against a bill that reconfirms the facts of

the Jewish Holocaust among other genocides! Having joined the revisionists

of the Armenian Genocide some time ago, one wonders if this particular

Jewish group is now backing the revisionists of the Jewish Holocaust?

Finally, the Turks have spent a lot of financial and political capital

during the past two weeks contacting Bush administration officials, members

of the Senate and Jewish groups trying to kill a bill that is gaining

momentum in the Senate. If they are going to spend so much effort every

time that this resolution might come up for a vote, one hopes that the

Turks would have exhausted their lobbying dollars as well as what little

goodwill they have left in Washington when the resolution finally reaches

the Senate floor.

While the Turks are foolishly running themselves to the ground, it may be

wise for the Armenian media to stop parroting the Turkish lies and take

their cue from much more reliable Armenian political organizations in

Washington.

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Amen yeghitsi.

Thank you Harut S.

[Arpa]

We may want to repeat one refrain over and over;

"Beggars cannot be choosers". Turkey has been a beggar state ever since the the "sick man of Europe" days.

The US does not need Turkey. Look at their economy, or better yet, their economical disaster. How many more US dollars are needed to salvage it? Why would anyone want to salvage it?

In case the below are not legible, Turkish lira was at 1.3 million to the dollar yesterday and it is 1.4 M today. As to the Dram, it has been around 550 for quite a few years. In fact it was around that during my visit in 1998.

 

Is "bancruptcy" (both economical and moral) a Turkish word??

 

Turkish Lira;

http://www.corporateinformation.com/curren...sp?ctry_cod=796

 

AM Dram;

http://www.corporateinformation.com/curren...od=051&B1=Go%21

[Arpa]

Is "bancruptcy" (both economical and moral) a Turkish word??

I found the Turkish word for "bancrupt". It is "muflis" meaning penniless.

"fils" is equivalent to our penny as attested to the Jordanian Currency where a pound is equal to 100 fils.

Further, "fuls" is of the same derivation as the Armenian "pogh" , without going into details the AM "pogh" has its counterparts in other languages such as "phol" or "phil".

Remember that the "ph" becomes "pyur" and the L becomes "gh". Therefore the Turkish "muflis" would be "anpogh" in Armenian. In fact the AM word for "bankrupt" is "snank". What does this really mean? It has to do with "ank/anknel/enknel"= to fall. Does it mean "sin ou parap-enkyal" i.e empty-fallen.

I can look it up.