Accelerated Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 (edited) I am fuming..... Just called the Russian Consulate here to get some info on their Transit Visa, because we wanted to visit relatives in Moscow for a couple of days on the way to Armenia this summer. Its too late to get a toursit visa. This b*&%# picks up the phone, and I ask about the transit visa, she goes 'all information on the website', i say i am looking at the website and need a clarification on something, she does a deep sign and repeats what she said earlier I should turn up at the consulate with a shotgun. Does anyone know how long we can stay in Russia on a Transit Visa and is it possible at all, conidering there are daily flights to Yerevan from Moscow (ie. what if they ask for justification for our stay etc.) Note: There has been a tightening of visa issuing in April 2003 Thanks in advance. Edited May 6, 2003 by Azat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted May 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 (edited) hahahaha - I should have said to her "Whats the matter B*&%$, the Consuls found another whore to f@#%?" edit note: Jugs, just cleaning the language a bit Edited May 6, 2003 by Azat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sen_Vahan Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Hi there! DEpends on whether you are an armenian citizen or australian. If armenian then you don't need a visa for moscow but need to keep in hand the tickets showing when you arrived to moscow and when you are going to depart. (you can survive that way for a couple of days) If you are an australian citizen then I do not know but you can probably get a visa in SVO upon the arrival - you will need to tell them the reason of visit and the address you are going to stay in. You should calm down in the city of Moscow you can meet even a "nicer" attitude towards you from the policemen on the streets if you look armenian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Does anyone know how long we can stay in Russia on a Transit Visa and is it possible at all, conidering there are daily flights to Yerevan from Moscow (ie. what if they ask for justification for our stay etc.) I'm not 100% sure but I think that information is on the website. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 ...You should calm down in the city of Moscow you can meet even a "nicer" attitude towards you from the policemen on the streets if you look armenian I have heard this often... Is there really a prejudice against Armenians in Moscow, and if so, how overt is it? Perhaps it is a general disiain for Armenians? I have one more: Why? What is the root of this prejudice? I have never been to Moscow, and I really don't know much about the attutudes of Russians concerning Armenians. Can any moscovites on the forum care to enlighten us?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Jugs, two years ago I went thru Moscow for 2 days on my way back and got a transit visa at the airport. it was easy, but things may have changed. just check the website. btw: transit visa was only good for 72 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sen_Vahan Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 I would not say there is a prejudice specifically towards armenians in moscow. There is a lot of people from Caucas in moscow today and all of them face that attitude especially from the policemen and local authorities. The problem is that it is a very good way for the authorities including the police to earn money - one can sometimes read articles in newspapers that caucasians are the best source of money for the police, etc. On the one hand, russia lets armenians, azeris ,etc enter the country pretty easily even if you have no job and on the other hand police in big cities constatnly stop them on the streets asking for documents such as the "registraziya", "propiska", "gragdanstvo". Unfortunately, the bets way to get those documents is by giving "vzyatka"=kashark because for one who respects the laws it is nearly impossible to go to the "pasportniy stol" to get the registration since there's is an infinite line waiting for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 btw: transit visa was only good for 72 hours As it is 'most everywhere I've heard of, I think! Three days is plenty for visiting relatives, unless you're a clan or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 I would not say there is a prejudice specifically towards armenians in moscow. There is a lot of people from Caucas in moscow today and all of them face that attitude especially from the policemen and local authorities.... Thanks Vahan, So then I gather from your post that there ISN'T a generalised disdain for armenians amongst the Russian population in moscow - or that at least, it's not so blatant. And that any unpleasantness will likely involve the local authorities/law enforcement... In that case, then it's not much different from many other parts of the world - I suppose corrupted authorities (who are nonetheless money-hungry, or just plain greedy) can make life difficult for any population... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sen_Vahan Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Thanks Vahan, So then I gather from your post that there ISN'T a generalised disdain for armenians amongst the Russian population in moscow - or that at least, it's not so blatant. And that any unpleasantness will likely involve the local authorities/law enforcement... In that case, then it's not much different from many other parts of the world - I suppose corrupted authorities (who are nonetheless money-hungry, or just plain greedy) can make life difficult for any population... Vava, This is not an easy subject. As you know, almost every year there are some armenians, azeris or somebody else killed or bitten by skinheads either in the metro or in the city's markets. Unless you get a russian citizenship you are as they say "na ptich'ix pravax" since the laws for immigrants, workers from other countries, etc are not well established which gives a good chance to the authorities to grab money , which do not really care which one is the armenian and which one is the azeri. As for the common people they also don't know a difference btw azeris and armenians and if they have the prejudice they have too all caucasians. Another thing is that Moscow has a special status, it's much harder to survive in Moscow without a citizenship than in any other city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted May 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 If you are an australian citizen then I do not know but you can probably get a visa in SVO upon the arrival Dont think so, on entrance to Armenia, yes, but not Russia. I am an Aussie citizen btw. in the city of Moscow you can meet even a "nicer" attitude towards you from the policemen on the streets if you look armenian Yeah I know, I have a light skin colour by Armenian standards though, and only plan to stay 2 days.......so shouldnt be a prob. I'm not 100% sure but I think that information is on the website. Hope this helps. This info wasnt on the Aussie consulate website, nor the US, but it was on the UK site - 3 days max. The prob is, I dont know if it has been updated coz theyve made changes (stricter now) in mid-April 2003 Im gonna give the russian travel agent another call they will get the right info to me, after all they would want to sell tickets - LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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