Johannes Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Sumac or cumach? Sumac, in Armenian Աղտոր. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumac http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Աղտոր_սովորական Edited November 3, 2013 by Johannes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) 12th line down in the center, with the round leaf, we call that cumach next to it on the right perper e. OK, I think I know what Onjig is saying is komec/kormej http://medusa.maich.gr/medrecords/send_full_record?genus=Malva&record_id=2423 Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) I hate to do this, it is furkish I corrupted the URL but see /ebegumeci-komec.deliciousnotdelicious.com/2012/04/ebegumeci-komec Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 One dictionary says it is molosh/Մոլոշ in Armenian. To me it sounds Russian.See Փիփերթhttp://www.encyclopedia.am/pages.php?bId=2&hId=837 http://bararanonline.com/%D5%B4%D5%B8%D5%AC%D5%B8%D5%B7մոլոշ - բացատրություն ի, գ. Նույնն է Փիփերթ,Բացել գրքի էջը Փոփոխել Հայտնել սխալի մասինմոլոշ - հոմանիշներ 1) գ. (բսբ.) Աղճկուտակ, աղճկտակ, աղճկտատ, բաղրճուկ, եղիճկտուկ, եղնճկտատ, ճնճնդկաբլիթ, ճնճղահաց, հացուպանիր, քաթաթուկ, կուտատուկ:2) տես Փիփերթ: Փոփոխել Հայտնել սխալի մասինմոլոշ - ռուսերեն թարգմանություն ի (բսբ.) Мальва. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Փիփերթազգիներ http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%93%D5%AB%D6%83%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%A9%D5%A1%D5%A6%D5%A3%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80 Փիփերթ Malva: Բազմամյա և միամյա խոտաբույսեր են: Պտուղը բազմաբաժան կուտ է: Որոշ տեսակներ մոլախոտեր են:Also see that Hibiscus and Cotton are of the same familyԲաղրջուկ Hibiscus - Միամյա և բազմամյա խոտաբույսեր են և թփեր: Բամբակ Grossypium: - Ծառեր և թփեր են: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibiscus Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Speaking of cotton.Btw, did I say , yes I did, not completely that the word cotton is from the Egypto-Arabic . What we call Ktav Կտաւ linen is known as keten in Perso=furkish. **http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=54864&page=1entry310335http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=7&pageNumber=1380http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton====The English name derives from the Arabic (al) qutn قُطْن, which began to be used circa 1400 AD.[2] The Spanish word, "algodón", is likewise derived from the Arabic.=====**Search and see how many keten-ji- Ketenjian-s there are.Turkish To English - ketenci linen weaver; seller of linen clothThen what is the Armenian word ԲԱՄԲԱԿ that seems to have no relation to cotton.Banba in Persian پنبهhttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%AFhttp://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=7&pageNumber=406 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Thankyou Arpa, but I think that is something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Johannes, Arshod will be relieved to hear of their safety. Thankyou again Richard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Տոլմա in western Armenian written first, it is dolma. Տոլի as ancient Armenian word (toli), Has nothing to do with dolma. Այո, սիրելի Յովան, ես մի քիչ տաքարիւն եմ, չեմ կարող հանդուրժել եւ լուռ մնամ, երբեմն հայհոյեմ երբ մեր բարեկամները մեզ ասեն որ դօլման, (լից, լցոն) իբր թէ ուրարտա հայերէն բառ է:Միթ՞է սա դոլմա պախջէն ՀայՊալատ, կամ Հայերէ՞ն բառ է:Լցոնած այգի:Տես թէ ճարտարապետը ով էր:Ինչ՞ու այդ պալատը այդպէս է կոչուել:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolmabah%C3%A7e_Palace Hacı Said Ağa was responsible for the construction works, while the project was realized by architects Garabet Balyan, his son Nigoğayos Balyan and Evanis Kalfa (members of the Balyan family of Ottoman court architects.) The construction cost five million Ottoman mecidiye gold coins] Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Aghdor che, aghdor ouneem. Sumac we have growing here, lemony tasting, we use it on kebob. Cumach or Qumache, Mallow in English. As in post #28 Link It is used as a poultice, we also eat it like spinach. Many things as Arpa says are firkish words but many firk words, I would think, are corrupted versions of Armenian words. Being nomadic band of thieving bandits they would have few words for everyday life in a civilized land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Dear Onjig, I don't think you understood what I said above, that what you call cumach is in fact komejPlease search ebegumeci or komec turkish malva and see ebegumeci-komec. Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Aghdor che, aghdor ouneem. Sumac we have growing here, lemony tasting, we use it on kebob. Cumach or Qumache, Mallow in English. As in post #28 Link It is used as a poultice, we also eat it like spinach. Many things as Arpa says are firkish words but many firk words, I would think, are corrupted versions of Armenian words. Being nomadic band of thieving bandits they would have few words for everyday life in a civilized land. Yes, we ate it too, either raw or cooked. It grows like a weed. Also see what I said about its Armenian name, փիփերթ/ pipert or molosh(Russian)BTW The Armenian word for weed is մոլախոտ molakhot Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) In fact մոլախոտ is specific to the likes of marijuana or other dopes, the general term for weed is որոմ (v)orom Edited November 3, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 look in to thisit looks like it http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/flowers-and-plants/chilli-pepper-grafted-sunflame-f1-plants-pack-of.asp http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ch/chilli-pepper-grafted-sunflame-f1-plants-pack-of.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pepper ‘Golden Treasure’ 18” ht 4½” pot $3.95 http://www.contrarymarysplants.com/plant_images/peppers/2013/Pepper-Golden-Treasure.jpg(80 days) This sweet frying pepper is gorgeous and delicious, with 9” long fruits that ripen to a shiny yellow. Great for fresh eating, roasting, or frying! Thanks to customers Tim & Karen for the photo! http://www.contrarymarysplants.com/peppers.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pepper ‘Peperoncino’ 30” ht 4½” pot $3.95 http://www.contrarymarysplants.com/plant_images/totally-tomatoes/pepper-Peperoncino.jpg(72 days) Yes, these are the ones you see pickled in jars! They produces lots of 2-4” yellowish green fruits; best harvested when green. From a Greek seed source! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I have one plant, in the house under lights, that has three peppers about 8" long, that have turned red, God willing I will have viable seeds,. Uncle Arnold { Arshod} will get one, I promised him a plant but had poor luck with peppers this year. He wants seeds for his brother to plant. The peppers went from green to yellow to red. MosJan, The peppers you have pictured above, are they sweet peppers? Can seeds be ordered from this source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 OnJig i don.t know. i was just looking for some my self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 You want hot peppers? Here it is Aleppo Peppershttp://www.chilipeppermadness.com/images/pepper-types/Aleppo-Chili-Peppers-Fresh.jpghttp://www.chilipeppermadness.com/images/pepper-types/Aleppo-Chili-Peppers-Fresh.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Madair bekbek dak che. Pitz alipo bekbek shad geserem. Edited December 3, 2013 by onjig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Our cousin leaves the mountains as winter comes, to return in spring, always a good store of ground Alippo Pepper. I would love to get the seeds. Edited December 3, 2013 by onjig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) MosJan, If I can render seeds to plant and get them started I will send you some. There are a few who are in line for the seeds, if not from these two peppers, when their offspring will provide more. I do have other sweet peppers that are available whenever. These also have been kept pure for many years to prevent cross pollination { not planted near hot peppers to prevent the seeds carrying that trait. If you wish they are yours, apparently you have a place to plant. Edited December 3, 2013 by onjig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks OnJig . i will now if we would have a place to plant them in 30 days or so .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Dear Onjig, I am sure above, bekbek you meant Bghbegh/ Pghpegh Edited December 4, 2013 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onjig Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 OK, Arpa: Bghbegh, bghbegh. Bay-ghad-bay-yech-ghad: What more you want? Just kidding. I'm not sure how to use Latin letters on Armenian sounds. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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