terrorism and parallels...

[sen_Vahan]

I didn't know how to title this topic so it may seem a little strange. Anyway, i just want to answer THOTH and Bellthecat and discuss the terrorism and the parallels with Armenian case here rather than in "Turkey Supports Chechen terrorists".

 

"Well Sen_Vahan - I never said there was a comparison with the Chechen conflict and the Genocide of Armenians - neither did I say that Aa Genocide was occuring per se in Chechnya. However you must be blind and very selective in what you will bewlieve if you think the Russians are saint in Chechnya - "

 

Thoth,

 

And i never said russians were saint there

You cannot eliminate atrocities during the war. And those atrocities happened in both sides and let me not post the atrocities made by chechens.

There is a general policy in chechnya and that's what i am talking about and I don't understand the stupid parallels here with armenian case in turkey made by some of the members of the forum.

 

"Such blind arrogance!!

 

You have never bothered to read anything about the long series of wars during the 19th century the Russian empire fought to conquer Circssia. Wars that were fought with a scorched earth policy and mass reprisals against civilians that mirror Russian activities in Chechenia today.

 

And after the Russians had won, from the 1860s onward hundreds of thousands of Muslim Circassians were forced to leave their homes and given the choice of either move to resettlement camps in Ukraine or to migrate to Turkey - most chose Turkey. They were from the western Caucasus (Abkhazia and Abassia). There was not a forced mass expulsion on the same scale from the eastern Caucasus (Chechenia and Ingushetia) but many chose to leave anyway, again migrating to Turkey.

 

This is why the Circassian diaspora in Turkey has exact parallels with the Armenian diasora in Europe and North America, Both are made up from the descendents of genocide survivors with a recent influx of immigrants from the post-soviet period. And both have the same legitimate concerns for the survival of their original homeland. So, if Eduard Markosyan really believes there is any justification for his words "the main topic here is INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM AND THE SUPPORT THE TERRORISTS GET FROM THE TURKS AND THEIR AZERI BROTHERS." then he should start another topic titled "INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM AND THE SUPPORT THE TERRORISTS GET FROM ARMENIA AND THE ARMENIAN DIASPORA". He cannot be so selective with his deceits.

 

Steve"

 

Steve, you are probably the only person that red about the caucasian wars in 19th century.Is that what you think about yourself , Mr KNOWLEDGE?

There was a war, yes, in Caucas and many atrocities. Russians invaded, yes, but the atrocities were from both sides. Are you going to say they did not have the right to invade caucas? They did as well as domestics had the right to defend themselves. that's what always happened throughout the history. If cercassians or chechens appeared to be stroger they would not allow russia to take the territories. So simple.

What are you comparing with armenian case i don't understand. Is there a genocide in chechnya today?