ara baliozian Posted November 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Sasun: "People die sooner or later. Is there a justifiable reason to die?" this could serve as a justification of all wars and massacres; also Talaat, Hitler, and Stalin..../ara Edited November 11, 2004 by ara baliozian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 AraJan - as i see it has over 1000 reply's lets close thsi and open a new one - as i see it - III ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Could we please stop this personal attacks? If you don't like his post's Arpa, then I've got a simple solution for you, don't read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Considering that both "near sighted" and "far sighted" individuals are passionately involved in a meticulous assessment of the "health" of their sight, is there a room for a blind person? For this long journey, shall I bring a torch to enlighten the Path of Truth, or shall I simply bring books and burn them as it gets darker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ara yoru SubForum has been moved to OTHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Ara yoru SubForum has been moved to OTHER style_images/master/snapback.png MosJan, ari estegh chakat@t pagnem!! Finally!! Apres!! My prayers and pleas may have been answered. Even if partially. Edited November 14, 2004 by nairi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Lav eli Arpa. Ara has every right to post his opinions wherever he wants as long as he follows the code of conduct, which he has until now. What are we to make of him? Another Theo Van Gogh, but this time killed by our own, just because you happen to disagree with him or find his writing garbage? I'm really upset about this move. I think Ara has every right to post wherever he wants, and I can only encourage him to do so by opening a new thread in Culture if that's where he wants to post. In fact, I'd like to see this thread in Literature. I have said this before. Behead me if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I agree with Nairi, if he has been banned from the majority of the medias, one more reason to be happy to have him. We have the exclusivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Dear Nairi, If you click on the general subtopic of "culture" you will see that I have advanced many topics and tried and hoped beyond hope, to no avail, that the topic be rescued out of his clutches. I may be the sole voice in the wilderness who does not want to hear his garbage, I may be wrong, there still be those of us who much rather wallow in our miserable state of our "culture". I am not! I may be one of those "uncurably romantics" who believe there still is some nobility in our "culture" to promote, propagate and celebrate. Of course! He has every right to spread is effluum on the internet as long as he stays out of that Noble Topic of "Culture", that way I will not have to butt heads with a butthead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I do agree that his texts should be rather posted at the litherary board, or maybe an Ara board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) As long as Ara respect the rules, I don't see why he should be prevented from posting in a board, if he thinks culture fit best. I disagree with most of what Ara is saying(exept for religion and some other stuff), but disagreeing doesn't justify kicking him out. ExtraHye... Quote was deleted. Edited November 12, 2004 by ExtraHye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I may be one of those "uncurably romantics" who believe there still is some nobility in our "culture" to promote, propagate and celebrate. style_images/master/snapback.png You're wrong Arpa. At this point Armenians have to develop and share their culture. You propose to conserve it. In this case we will be nothing but exactly like your "favourite" nation. As much as I disagree with Ara on certain topics, he makes me think about lot of things I wouldn't think about otherwise. Because I don't have time. And I am thinkful to him that he posts this in the Internet. Also, you could call every writer an onanist. That's the nature of their business until they die and become famouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Ara has every right to post his opinions wherever he wants as long as he follows the code of conduct, which he has until now. What are we to make of him? Another Theo Van Gogh, but this time killed by our own, just because you happen to disagree with him or find his writing garbage? style_images/master/snapback.png I agree! He has the right to express himself! Yes, what he writes may not be called garbage! I can only encourage him to do so by opening a new thread in Culture if that's where he wants to post. In fact, I'd like to see this thread in Literature. I have said this before. Behead me if you want. style_images/master/snapback.png It MAY not be garbage, but IT IS NOT Literature! His writings are of no literary - NOR EMOTIONAL - value, contrary to how some feel! I believe in HIGHER STANDARDS! (A short version of what I think of his writings! Sasun may remember the long version! ) I may be the sole voice in the wilderness who does not want to hear his garbage, I may be wrong, there still be those of us who much rather wallow in our miserable state of our "culture". style_images/master/snapback.png No, you are not! Let him glorify his constant struggle to free himself from the Web he weaves for himself! That is the essence of his Identity! Let his own venom gradually corrode his mind, it already suffocated his Soul! Let him be! Every nation had mediocre "writers!" I may be one of those "uncurably romantics" who believe there still is some nobility in our "culture" to promote, propagate and celebrate. style_images/master/snapback.png "Now if there's a cure for this, We don't want it, we'll run from it And if there's a remedy, We don't need it, we just eat it." ("Freaks of The Industry" - Digital Underground.) Edited November 11, 2004 by Siamanto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Sasun: "People die sooner or later. Is there a justifiable reason to die?" this could serve as a justification of all wars and massacres; also Talaat, Hitler, and Stalin..../ara style_images/master/snapback.png I asked a philosophical question, this does not answer my question. Edited November 12, 2004 by Sasun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 It MAY not be garbage, but IT IS NOT Literature! His writings are of no literary - NOR EMOTIONAL - value, contrary to how some feel! I believe in HIGHER STANDARDS! (A short version of what I think of his writings! Sasun may remember the long version! ) style_images/master/snapback.png I remember the long version You are expressing your opinion about a certain writer's writings - you don't appreciate them in any way. I see nothing wrong with that. I criticized Ara on numerous occasions for lack of logic and objectivity in his reasoning and other things. We all criticize. You would like to see higher literary or philosophical standards - that is fine. And I want to see a fair and logical argument, and wish that Ara did not avoid my questions (which he doesn't always do) - that is fine too it seems to me. But then there are some people who don't just critcize, but want to ban this writer from everywhere and use all kinds of garbage language. That is NOT OK. That is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Had God not been perfect he would force you to to believe in him My question still remains: is there a justifiable reason for death, any death? style_images/master/snapback.png Is there a justifiable reason for life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Is there a justifiable reason for life? style_images/master/snapback.png What are you a Jew, answering my question with a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 What are you a Jew, answering my question with a question? style_images/master/snapback.png Your question is a hard question to answer, so I asked my own question that is very much related to your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Is there a justifiable reason for life? style_images/master/snapback.png Actualy there is a reason for death and life. Without death, there are no possibility of genetic evolution. And the reason for life is that there are multiverses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 And the reason for life is that there are multiverses. style_images/master/snapback.png Of course! How could I have forgotten? Multiverses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Your question is a hard question to answer, so I asked my own question that is very much related to your question style_images/master/snapback.png That was smart of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 That was smart of you style_images/master/snapback.png So, I guess you don't know the answer either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 So, I guess you don't know the answer either style_images/master/snapback.png But I know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 That still doesn't mean that there is a God by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 So, I guess you don't know the answer either style_images/master/snapback.png Answer to your question or my question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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