Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 26, 2002 09:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dear S. and the rest of you guys. Where are all the members? Over 800 registered? Few are commenting but seem bored to death. Is it the assimilation syndrome? Go to Jewish sites and see the deference!Jeese you guys are more excited talking about cars and games then anything meaningful. I am disappointed to be honest. Cut and paste Mosjan's news just does not cut it bro, If I want to read the news I can go to the source. I want to know what you think!Anyway, I know after this my welcome is over but I rather be honest. --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Sip Member Member # 646 posted July 26, 2002 09:20 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wow! Bad day? ... and why would your welcome be over? There is no one around to void your welcome anyway!!! . [ July 26, 2002, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: Sip ] --------------------I am not young enough to know everything. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 576 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 26, 2002 09:35 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dear Sip, this site since I joined reminds me the day I went to hear a distinguished politician (rather not reveal who) who made an effort to come to our Armenian community to talk about Armenian issues. Sadly only six people showed up. I was embarrassed to say the least. Yes, things we avoid discussing are the very things that we are guilty of, mainly indifference and slow suffocating soul killing Diaspora existence. --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Sip Member Member # 646 posted July 26, 2002 09:54 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that Armenians should not talk about cars, games, food, math, music, etc etc ... they should only talk about "Armenian issues" which probably means how Turks butchered us, how our ancestors arms and legs were cut off in bits and pieces and fed to the dogs, how our churches were burnt with people inside, and we are being oppressed day and night by everyone who beat us with chains ... how our grandfathers had to walk to school, bare-foot, up-hill, in snow, everyday both on the way from home to school and on the way from school to home. No wonder people stop showing up!!! I say you bring them in for the laughter and the fun, you keep them with the promise of an "enlightened" mind, and along the way, you teach them a few cool things. Am I so lost in the "diasporan" way? --------------------I am not young enough to know everything. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 576 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 26, 2002 11:24 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------You missed my point...sorry to step on your toys and habbies --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Sip Member Member # 646 posted July 27, 2002 12:19 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------No problem dear Rubo ... just don't let it happen again j/k j/k Actually, my toys and hobbies are my life. I would be a nobody without them. --------------------I am not young enough to know everything. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 576 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 nairi Member Member # 865 posted July 27, 2002 06:02 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Rubo:Go to Jewish sites and see the deference!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Rubo, which ones? I spent just over two hours surfing around and all I could find were similar topics discussed in similar ways. Jewish chatters use the same type of language as Armenians do and they discuss both "important" issues as well as "futile" ones. I found one girl asking where she could find wedding dresses, another who asked for an explanation of some Jewish game, a man looking for his lost love and yet another 14-year-old boy asking whether masturbation is a sin. The reply to the latter was "y u do it?". Rubo jan, if you want a higher standard of discussion on this forum, why don't you start more threads? Don't blame Mosjan for trying to initiate a discussion (be it with newspaper articles). Although I do have to agree with you that out of the 900 members we have, not many are contributing. Then again not everyone has as much free time on their hands as we do... As for lectures by prominent Armenians: keep in mind that no more than 30% of any nation is "cultured" and "smart". More tourists come to Amsterdam to smoke weed and check out the red-light district than there are tourists visiting the Rembrandt and Van Gogh museums. It's a fact of life. If we were all as smart and cultured as you, there would be no farmers, police officers, construction workers, street cleaners, handymen, and all other occupations that do not necessarily require a high mental output, but that are indispensable in any civilized society. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 51 | From: holland | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 27, 2002 06:22 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dear Sip, in my haste I did not notice the bithday cake.Happy birthday! jeese I feel bad now.I hope you had fun celebrating since I was not much of a cheerful person last night. Nairi jan thanks for your post. I do not have the time now to answer but will get back to this subject later. --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 27, 2002 04:26 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dear Nairi, your classroom story was interesting but I felt there was more to say….Here are some Jewish forums.I guess I felt a bet frustration from lock of participation but I am ok now. http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/index.cfm http://forums.abovetopsecret.com/viewthrea...page=2#pid31055 http://www.gesher.co.il/gesher/vote.html http://pub73.ezboard.com/bmessiahtruth --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Sip Member Member # 646 posted July 27, 2002 09:24 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Rubo:Dear Sip, in my haste I did not notice the bithday cake.Happy birthday! jeese I feel bad now.I hope you had fun celebrating since I was not much of a cheerful person last night.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No problem at all! I live everyday as if it were my birthday ... which probably doesn't say much! The only puzzleing thing was that I could see you were a bit mad at those who are not here, yet you were somehow blowing up at those who were here ... which didn't make sense at the time. My problem is that I am not that well versed in culture, history, social sciences, human-type stuff, and many other things. Therefore, I usually don't have many meaningful things to say about those things. However, I have learned so much in the past 6-months about certain subjects that is UNBELIEVABLE. That is one of the BIG reasons I keep coming back here. Even though in my relatively short stay here I have been called a homosexual, spy for the jews, not a "real" Armenian, and a member of the "borg" collective among many other things, I still have enjoyed every second of the important and not so important conversations I have had with the several pretty knowledgable individuals (and even with the not so bright crowd ... most of whom have long gone!). I think I am a much better person than I was 6 months ago mainly because I have been exposed to so many new ideas and ways of thinking. Heck I didn't even know what the word Diaspora meant before I saw it here. Now, if you ask me how you can add one and one and get 10, I could maybe say a couple of sentences without sounding too much like a 5-year old. Has this whole thing been good for the "Armenian" cause? I have NO idea. Has it been great for me? Hell YES!!! --------------------I am not young enough to know everything. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 576 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 nairi Member Member # 865 posted July 28, 2002 02:20 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Rubo:Dear Nairi, your classroom story was interesting but I felt there was more to say….Here are some Jewish forums.I guess I felt a bet frustration from lock of participation but I am ok now. http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/index.cfm http://forums.abovetopsecret.com/viewthrea...page=2#pid31055 http://www.gesher.co.il/gesher/vote.html http://pub73.ezboard.com/bmessiahtruth-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rouben jan, what exactly are you trying to prove with these links? Could you be more specific? I think we're talking past each other. Nairi --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 51 | From: holland | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Sip Member Member # 646 posted July 28, 2002 06:01 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by nairi:... yet another 14-year-old boy asking whether masturbation is a sin. The reply to the latter was "y u do it?". ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hahahahhahaahahah These Jews really crack me up sometimes!!! "y u do it"? hahahaha ... that's a good one. --------------------I am not young enough to know everything. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 576 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 nairi Member Member # 865 posted July 28, 2002 10:39 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rubo, you haven't replied to my question yet! I'm waiting Sip, you have some sense of humor! Keep it up! Nairi [ July 28, 2002, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: nairi ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 51 | From: holland | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 29, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 28, 2002 04:40 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dear Rubo, which ones? I spent just over two hours surfing around and all I could find were similar topics discussed in similar ways. Dear Nairi, I was just answering your question "which ones" by giving examples of Jewish sites that are worthy to compare however there is no point in going further on this. --------------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Logged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 31, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Rubo:Rubo Junior Member Member # 908 posted July 26, 2002 09:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Is it the assimilation syndrome?---------------Armenian Solidarity --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 49 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2002 | IP: Loggedin my opinion (which hopfully is counted) assimilated Armenians play much better, greater, wiser, more efficient roles in Armenian politics and international affairs than the ones not assimilated.those non-assimilateds are mostly new arrivals who came US for better economical life.and a person who travels half a world for better life (moneywise) then he/she (so i won't be called sexist) couldn't care less about those issues mentioned above (Armenian politics/affairs, etc.). sorry if i'm hurting some feels, but this is what's really happening, in my opinion. [ July 31, 2002, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: Harut ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Dear Harut, by definition assimilated is one who has adapted and replaced all his former culture and behavior by new one. Any Armenian who contributes to Armenian cause whether politically or socially is not assimilated Armenian hence my comments were not directed at them. Another generalization is that newly arrived Armenians do not participate in our affairs. I disagree, I know people who do. My friend Sasun (new arriver) is actively building a site just for this purpose. There are many other examples. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 The site I mentioned is at http://armport.com/ It started as a brainstorm project from another Armenian forum to connect Armenian markets to abroad and help Armenia reach to investors. There is a need for this since there are very few sites that do this. We are still working on the site so it is not totally finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Rubo - let me know wan your finished working on that web site. MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Well said MosJan - and keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Argishty – Rubo our doors are open for everyone, and everyone is welcome to join this forum. We have done our part in building this Armenian portal, building a forum that we are proud of, our moderators are responsible and fair to everyone.Forum has over 800 members, most will not post everyday, some of our members are only here to get info and might comment on this or that topic, close to 10% active members, this 10% are more productive than 90% of some other Armenian forums. It took us two and a half years to get to this level, it’s not commercialized, it’s not leaning towards any political party or to their interests. I know we still have a long ways to go before we achieve our goals and this forum will make a change in real life, and we are willing to do our part, but no matter how hard we try, this place will have no meaning if their are no members who are not willing to participate / contribute and share their knowledge.Time to time forums do “day” for some time – then some other time you see storm of members that have not posted for long time. School is out no one spends time in front of the Computer, only hand fool of members are left posting.Give some time and you will se more and more older members posting again. I like to be criticized – it makes me work harder :)I like it when members have ideas, have suggestions. just gave some space to our younger members and gave them a chance to post, to learn, to be in a forum in a virtual Armenian community, after all this is one of the goals to bring Armenians together.It’s part of our human nature to try to dominate, and internet is no exception, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you or me don’t agree with some of it, the best think we can do is post our opinion, if someone can learn it fine, or if some one can teach me something, even if someone can correct me or you that it’s self is already an achievement, not knowing something is not a shame, but wan one refuses to learn …….It’s nice to be part of something that has a great potential, and i’m proud to be part of this forum were so many knowledgeable members are present. Thank you all Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Mosjan, thanks for your reply. You have articulated very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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