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Artur, Kazza doesn't want to date the Russian girls, so she doesn't need mercedes. Kazza is herself a girl and Armenian girls sre not like the western girls to date the girls.

 

But your Formula is gonna work in Holland with the Maroccan girls.

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ooopsss...

 

:) Kazza, i am really sorry, i thought you are a guy, i am sorry.

 

That "formula" works for men only! :))

For an Armenian girl it doesn't apply (shouldn't apply).

And iranyar right Armenian girls are not like western girls and shouldn't be like them.

For our girls: Be yourself, have morals, be traditional girls. And then you will be higher than those girls, you will be respected more than them. Otherwise you are putting yourself to their lowest point.

An Armenian girl should always keep their head upper than any girl in this world.

 

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Ha ha HA!

Iranyar! I wanted to tell him!

 

Artur, formula MIGHT work (though not on me it don't)And it does'nt apply to me either to be like those girls! Damn right! I mean they can do whatever they like but it doesn't apply to me.

 

Pilafhead. NOONE was visualising that. Unless of course I was a rabiz lezzie on the lookout for russian girls in classifieds and in a mercedes. Hehe, NOTHING could be further from the truth!

 

again, he he!

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Iranyar, I am new to this forum but I want to go ahead and give you my opinion. If a girl(doesn't matter how pretty she is, or how much you love her) denies your love or marriage on the basis of tradition or family reasons you need to put that behind you and move on. Think of that as a blessing from the skies.
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I went to Garo's Basturma on Friday. While I was buying basturma and lavash, the lady answered the phone, "Hello, Garo's Basturma." All I could think was, "Is that the lady on the Hokis CD?"
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Iranyar I definitely agree with you. But what I don't like most is when girls try to be both(traditional and westernized). It turns into a total chaos. In my opinion you can't mix those two together. It becomes a shila pilaf.
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Originally posted by Iranyar:
Edgar you are right. What you say is generally right in the West but not in our region, there are things more complicated, especially with the traditional girls.


Aha, with traditional girls, you should do it in traditional way!

Steal her, man! Still the mothod that is used in Armenia and i guess you can use it Iran. : )
Does she have brothers??? If so, maan, makes a bit complecated. Steal her, run faraway, then the only chance for to see your next birthday is to merry her and to have a child, then i guess her brothers will be left with choice, either to kill you and let their sister be widow or to accept it for the child and sister.

The choice is yours :: )))))
Again, very original, Artur's way : ))

AA

P.S. My aunt was stolen, when she was 19. She loved the guy, bur parents didn't agree. She didn't have any brothers though
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This method which Artur said is a caucasian one, The Georgians and chechens use it very often. The Iranahay would oust that girl in this case

 

Edg you are right I hate those girls who act traditional way to the guys of own race, and when they see western guys they become more westernized than pamela Anderson .

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Originally posted by Iranyar:


Edg you are right I hate those girls who act traditional way to the guys of own race, and when they see western guys they become more westernized than pamela Anderson .


Yes it's sad is't it.The reason is they feel they have to do anything to Please Their Man so they don't Lose Their Man because if they Lose Their man they will lose their whole world because they are insecure and don't have a life outside Their Man. That's they way it is! What they don't see is if they are themselves all the way their man will love them even more and never get bored!
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Kazza I tell you a funny and sad story.

 

One of my friends was an Iranian guy, he felt in love with an Iranian girl. The girl acted if she is a Goddes and she acted as if she is not interested, because she is a traditional girl, is not interested in sex before marriage and she tought that she is better than that boy ( a guy who was studying laws and that girl was nothing in compare to that) But what happened later, you may think that that girl married a high class guy and is now very happy with her husband and children. NOPE, she went after guys who she met in discotheques, lately I saw her with a black guy, with naked chest in the rain and wind. She turned her face when she saw us and didn't even say a simple hello.

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Originally posted by Kazza:
Yes it's sad is't it.The reason is they feel they have to do anything to Please Their Man so they don't Lose Their Man because if they Lose Their man they will lose their whole world because they are insecure and don't have a life outside Their Man. That's they way it is! What they don't see is if they are themselves all the way their man will love them even more and never get bored!


KAZZA- You are so right. I think that many times Armenian girls act in the traditional way just to please their man. This is one of the biggest problems that I face with dating Armenian girls. I still haven't encountered a girl who feels comfortable letting others know what she wants and how she feels. I just hate that. I am from Armenia but I would rather be with an honest Armenian girl than with a pretender (these girls are the most dangerous type-satana en).
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Originally posted by Iranyar:
Kazza I tell you a funny and sad story.

One of my friends was an Iranian guy, he felt in love with an Iranian girl. The girl acted if she is a Goddes and she acted as if she is not interested, because she is a traditional girl, is not interested in sex before marriage and she tought that she is better than that boy ( a guy who was studying laws and that girl was nothing in compare to that) But what happened later, you may think that that girl married a high class guy and is now very happy with her husband and children. NOPE, she went after guys who she met in discotheques, lately I saw her with a black guy, with naked chest in the rain and wind. She turned her face when she saw us and didn't even say a simple hello.


Call me old fashioned (NOT traditional! Ha!) but I always find stories of unrequited love sad but it's true.
Some girls like that DO think they have got it made just because they are holier than thou. (I know a lot of girls like that, greek, english, Thai, anywhere really ), simply gave in to familial and society's pressures..., for a WHILE at least! She probably was yes, insecure and didn't know herself, got confused then in the and went MAD! (That also happenned to a lot of those girls I was talking about...drugs drink, and picking up strangers each week) I wonder if her holier than thou family talk to her now! So she lost out, really , the guy sounds like a joker anyway, not because he's black but because he was showing his chest in the rain.
Never mind about your friend. He's probably found someone nice, down and together and is happier than her in the end.
I think in the end it's down to us what we want.
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Originally posted by Kazza:
Never mind about your friend. He's probably found someone nice, down and together and is happier than her in the end.
I think in the end it's down to us what we want.



I saw my friend hours ago, he is really become crazy, doesn't sleep and drinks the whole time
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Originally posted by Kazza:
Really? Just over that girl?


yes, the society is also hostile against the non-blond and npn-negro guys in Holland. They call us officially in the Dutch Media, as Parasites. He wants to stop with his study, I told him to go find another girl, but he said all the girls these days are the same, I told him go to a journey, but he has drunk all his money
and this a song " Eva's red apple" about how bad girls can be and when they have regret afterwards maybe it's too late. http://www.abadani.com/music/suzan/vas.ram

[This message has been edited by Iranyar (edited November 10, 2000).]
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Originally posted by Iranyar:
yes, the society is also hostile against the non-blond and npn-negro guys in Holland. They call us officially in the Dutch Media, as Parasites. He wants to stop with his study, I told him to go find another girl, but he said all the girls these days are the same, I told him go to a journey, but he has drunk all his money
and this a song " Eva's red apple" about how bad girls can be and when they have regret afterwards maybe it's too late. http://www.abadani.com/music/suzan/vas.ram

[This message has been edited by Iranyar (edited November 10, 2000).]


Well I really think your friend although he has been hurt yes,It sounds as if he is his own worst enemy. He is spoiling his life by getting into the drink and stopping his study! What the hell for? He cant say that she is responsible for that. It's really time for him to move on now and get himself together.
Harsh as it may sound he could look back in fifty years, with the wine in his hand and say:where the hell has all my life gone?

But it is eaasier said than done after all. I certainly know how that feels, I've been there! I was really in love once, but I let him hurt me time and time again, and I beleived all his lies. In the end he just said, "I never loved you anyway and I don't want to see you again" after admitting the other girls to me.

Now I could well have easily got into that downward spiral, I know so well from experience! But the is a point where I just said that enough is enough. It's time to start enjoying life again and there is a whole other world out there out there for me. I am not saying I don't think about the good times now and again but I know I could never want to go back to that again.

I really think it's a pity the way it ended though. I think it was fault from both sides.
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Originally posted by Kazza:
Well I really think your friend although he has been hurt yes,It sounds as if he is his own worst enemy. He is spoiling his life by getting into the drink and stopping his study! What the hell for? He cant say that she is responsible for that. It's really time for him to move on now and get himself together.
Harsh as it may sound he could look back in fifty years, with the wine in his hand and say:where the hell has all my life gone?

But it is eaasier said than done after all. I certainly know how that feels, I've been there! I was really in love once, but I let him hurt me time and time again, and I beleived all his lies. In the end he just said, "I never loved you anyway and I don't want to see you again" after admitting the other girls to me.

Now I could well have easily got into that downward spiral, I know so well from experience! But the is a point where I just said that enough is enough. It's time to start enjoying life again and there is a whole other world out there out there for me. I am not saying I don't think about the good times now and again but I know I could never want to go back to that again.

I really think it's a pity the way it ended though. I think it was fault from both sides.




Kazza I think you are a strong personality, but believe me in Holland you as a girl will have more fun than a guy, I'm happy being a guy, but I think that the girls should stop complain that this is a men's world.
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Originally posted by Kazza:
Ok, why's that?

long and complicated story, it is effect of 8 years government policy. I see you live in England, Holland is near you, why you don't come to Holland and see it from nearby?
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