Guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Art jan, if you share the same interests and love eachother, it'll be fine if you marry a Persian girl from Teheran Yes Farsi jane äziz, not onley me but the majority of people in Iran are fedup with the way clergy interprates their religious teachings, I don't see the reason why religious differences should be an obstacle for the marriage between the people of the same character and culture when they love eachother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 [This message has been edited by Ararat (edited December 11, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Ararat jan, I understand your point, I also oppose mixed marriages between Iranians of all sorts (persian, armenians etc...) with the westeners, Arabs, Turks, blacks etc... because I know that fire and water can't go together. But in Iran a mix marriage between an Armenian and a non-Armenian wouldn't lead to assimilation of any of two sides. It will also widened the Armenian feeling amoung the family of the non-Armenian. ofcourse Bahrain was a sad case, it was forced by the British agression, still 60% of Bahrainis are Persian, most of the other 40% are imported Arabs, and unfortunately the Persians of Bahrain are very suppressed and will eventually fled that island. If I had anything to say I will propose a military accupation of Bahrain and the so called republic of Azerbaijan. The Iranian Azeri's have totally different menthality than those turklover goddamn elchibey's criminal gang. The Iranian Azeri's are very pan-Iranist and have absolutely no anti_Armenian feelings. In Esfahan an Armenian boy told me that he got upset when a Hayastantsi guys disrespected the Iranian Azeri's, he said that those Iranian Azeri's (and Georgians) are different than those in the transcaucasia and should be treated respectfully and as compatriots. Actually when I was in Iran I couldn't see any separatist feelings among any population group. What was interesting was that the Turkicspeaking Iranians hate the Turks more than non-Turkicspeaking Iranians Iran is changing fast and is absolutely not the same country as those zionist propaganda suggest. Did you know that the CD's of Nuneh was freely available in Esfahan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Ararat jan, That was a very cogent, well put argument against intermarriage with non-Armenians. Again, I have said before, I can see the argument against intermarriage. Not all Armenians are like my mom, who make sure their kids learn Armenian. I still don't totally agree with everything you wrote, but it was an excellent argument, free from childish name calling and sarcasm, as seen by another forum poster(no names mentioned). Also what is this other forum? I would love to check it out! Iranyar joon, Yeah, I remember that Armenians and Azeris of Iran had always had very amicable relations. That is why I am so shocked at the whole Karabagh conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Es leoven hamatsaynem Arte het,estex xosvume votch te lav,kam vat hay lenelu masen,ayl mer azgayen demk@ pahpanelu masen.EV es chei uzenaye menk ayn vetchkae metch gtnvenk inchpes aysor asenk evropane(vor em kartsekov ahavore),ayn azga vor jamanken karozumer er areakan tsagman masen(xosks germanatsenere masene),hamozvatsem vor me kane tasnamyak heto germanatsener vorpes aydpesener chen lene,Ayo es chem @ndunum "mix marriages" nuynesk ete ka ser.Vorovhetev hamozvatsem ete ayspes shrunakve menk evs shat shutov kkortsnenk mer azgayen demk@. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 I don't know why it is assimilation, if me and our children learn Armenian language, listen to traditional armenian music, and know the history of their Armenian ancestors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 Iranyar jan, Harsanik yep gelni? Spasumenk! I say you guys escape and elope! Your kids will probably turn out more Armenian than most "Makur" Hay. Farsisteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 [This message has been edited by Ararat (edited December 11, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 Dear Half BreedYou wrote "I still don't totally agree with everything you wrote". This is very normal. The important thing is that how we discuss subjects. The purpose of these forums is that we could share with each other our opinions. Personally I learn many thing in these discussions. [This message has been edited by Ararat (edited August 24, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 No ararat duste äziz. I'm not Esfahani, but my ancestoral town lies in Ostane Esfahan, near Ostane 4m. Bäxtyari. A lot of my family live however in Esfahan. My aunt's husband speaks also Armenian, which is not so strange in Esfahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 BTW. a der-der told me her will let us marry if no one else knows it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2000 Report Share Posted September 3, 2000 I have a feeling to go for it I want to go to Esfahan as soon as possibaly. But is sending a card while I can't go to Esfahan is a good alternative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 "Sere Sota Sportov Ezbaxve Aper" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 I don't think that sport will solve it, but someone in this board brought me to an idea I will go for the Russian girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Iranyar, I don't mean to get all involved here if it's none of my business. But do you really want to marry this girl? And does she really want to marry you? If it was me if I really wanted to marry/be with someone I woul'nt let my family tell me not to! they are the ones in the wrong. Not you and her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 All I'm asking is is this really what you want? You are saying something about Russian girls, and another Arm-Iranian girl that likes you, and it seems your thoughts are swaying a bit here....you don't want to marry somebody if it is not right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Barev Kazza, I was not sure if you were a guy or a girl, but now due to your way of speaking I think you are a girl, right? To be honest, that girl was not THE one but someone, I have some measurements who is good enough to marry with and who not, and that girl scored high in that respect, but a weak point was that she didn't go to university, a moslem Iranian girl and especially one in a city who has no higher education, would be rejected by the family of the Boy as a good partner. That was her only weak point. I go first for Georgian girl, but there is a similar problem: In Georgia they are Christian, we are Shiite moslems however religion is absolutly not an issue for me, for the Georgia Georgians IS due to suppression of religion in USSR (for us is Vice versa ) Most of Georgians of Iran are from a lower class and aside the fact that my family (especially my aunts would reject the girl, what I dont think they do or what I care about) the culture and beahaviour would be a problem here, that we don't understand each other quite good. As for marrying, I will marry rather a girl from any ethnic or religious back ground whose views and way of life does fit with mine. About the Russian girl: Well I think I'm not the only one who thinks the Russian or east slavic girls in general RULE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 !!!!! What IS it with those Russian girls that everyone thinks are SO great????? Jeez, mabye I should just say I'm Russian then I would have NOOO problem with dating!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Seriously though. I think you should do what you wanna do but a small problem: If you say this girl isnt the one, does she know this? Does she think you are the one then you might and up finding someone else later . She might get hurt ... but take it easy Iranyar! It will sort itself in good time. As for the Georgian girls .... how do you mean "lower class"? Is it the way they behave or have they actually got less money? (in some countries,England for example, there is this new class system where you can be very rich but you still behave very trashy. Or people who have made it in business or lottery or whatever and they have not a very good education. Anyway tell me! If you like Georgian girls can't you find an nice educated one that you like? You see I guessed she might not be the one by they way you were talking, mostly about going to Ehesfan(I cant spell it) instead of her. Like I say: it's up to you at the end of the day: you know best! Warning: majority of fully armenian families are clannish. If you REALLY want an armenian girl then please beware of the family!!! My full hye relatives even refuse to speak to our sidde of the family, for one. No offense to anyone on Hye forum so no angry posts pls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 No girl will get hurt with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 BTW. by the low class I meant lower social calsses, because the higher calsses of Georgians who are living generations in the big cities are Persianspeaking, but in Fereydan, Buin-Miandasht and Fereydunshahr provinces they speak Georgian as their first language, the problem is that they wear Chador and have another value patrons. They are not what we call bikelas without class which is the secod mening of it, rather Tehrani girls are more bikelas. I see culturul pluralisms as richness, therfore I want to keep Georgian language for the next generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 Kazza, I don't think Russian Girls are anything to crow about! They are all a bunch of babababushkas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 quote:Originally posted by Half Breed:Kazza, I don't think Russian Girls are anything to crow about! They are all a bunch of babababushkas!You SEE? I have Farsi Jan's support! Thank you By the way: bababababushkas? It's that doll, isnt it? OK! What good advice can you give to Iranyar? It looks like we can give him some good help!Anyway: I'm off to your brinz thread now! yum yum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 Artur Thanks for your idea but I don't know if that is going to be possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 Kazza, what you need is Mercedes 600, preferably SEL, its' nicer Black one! With black windows. And i guess that's it. And to be an Armenian in dating someone, i.e. be able to date about 15 girls at the same time. Just don't get confused with names, Thats what i always get wrong. They are not really happy about it. But anyways who cares what they are happy about ::)) Russians for fun, an Armenian for heart, life, and love. [This message has been edited by Artur (edited November 05, 2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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