MosJan Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 http://www.arborday.org/trees/super/1159.jpg -= Prunus Armeniaca* =- Apricot -= *Hayastanits Bervats Tsiran kam Gtnvats Hayastanum=-. HistoryApricot is neither referred to in the inscriptions of Egypt and Babylon, nor in the Bible. According to Pliny the Elder, apricot would come from Mongolia, from where Chinese caravans would have imported it to the realm of Partians, on the Caspian Sea. It is then supposed to have become the emblematic tree of Armenia and to have developed in Europe, thus earning the scientific name "armeniaca". Its culture spread from Armenia to Greece and reached Italy around the first half of the first century of our era. Romans and Arabs then introduced it in the countries they conquered. Its fruit symbolizes the female sex. The legend is as follows: The Byzantine Church was deeply shocked at the debauched and luxury life that Eudoxia, Empress of the East, used to lead; and when she banished John Chrysostom from Constantinople, people besieged her palace and pelted it with... apricots. Already fashionable during the Renaissance, rebus became, under Henry III, a real mania at the French court: "minions" and duchesses did their best to outdo each other in wit to use the word apricot, but their attempts at imitating the style of Marivaux sounded more often than not rather questionable. The Queen ended up in forbidding the word apricot in this game. Countless love potions and philtres use the pulp or the essence of apricot to arouse passion http://www.woodlandnut.com/images/photodisc_comps/FD004538.gif Apricot A"pri*cot, n. [OE. apricock, abricot, F. abricot, fr. Sp. albaricoque or Pg. albricoque, fr. Ar. albirq[=u]q, al-burq[=u]q. Though the E. and F. form abricot is derived from the Arabic through the Spanish, yet the Arabic word itself was formed from the Gr. praiko`kia, pl. (Diosc. c. 100) fr. L. praecoquus, praecox, early ripe. The older E. form apricock was prob. taken direct from Pg. See Precocious, Cook.] (Bot.) A fruit allied to the plum, of an orange color, oval shape, and delicious taste; also, the tree (Prunus Armeniaca of Linn[ae]us) which bears this fruit. By cultivation it has been introduced throughout the temperate zone..... http://www.sardi.sa.gov.au/hort/apricot/col_1.jpg ---Synonyms---Apricock. Armeniaca vulgaris. ---Parts Used---Kernels, oil. ---Habitat---Although formerly supposed to come from Armenia, where it was long cultivated, hence the name Armeniaca, there is now little doubt that its original habitat is northern China, the Himalaya region and other parts of temperate Asia. It is cultivated generally throughout temperate regions. Introduced into England, from Italy, in Henry VIII's reign. http://www.sardi.sa.gov.au/hort/apricot/col_4.jpg Description---A hardy tree, bearing stone fruit, closely related to the peach. The leaves are broad and roundish, with pointed apex; smooth; margin, finely serrated; petiole 1/2 inch to an inch long, generally tinged with red. The flowers are sessile, white, tinged with the same dusky red that appears on the petiole, with five regular sepals and petals and many stamens, and open very early in the spring. The fruit, which ripens end of July to mid-August, according to variety, is a drupe, like the plum, with a thin outer, downy skin enclosing the yellow flesh (mesocarp), the inner layers becoming woody and forming the large, smooth, compressed stone, the ovule ripening into the kernel, or seed. As a rule in Britain, the fruit rarely ripens unless the tree is trained against a wall; when growing naturally, it is a medium-sized tree. It is propagated by budding on the musselplum stock. A great number of varieties are distinguished by cultivators. Large quantities of the fruit are imported from France. The kernels of several varieties are edible and in Egypt, those of the Musch-musch variety form a considerable article of commerce. Like those of the peach, apricot kernels contain constituents similar to those of the bitter almond: they are imported in large quantities from Syria and California and are oftenused by confectioners in the place of bitter almonds, which they so closely resemble as to be with difficulty distinguished. The French liqueur Eau de Noyaux is prepared from bitter apricot kernels. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3664/apricot-blossom.gif---Constituents---Apricot kernels yield by expression 40 to 50 per cent. of a fixed oil, similar to that which occurs in the sweet almond and in the peach kernel, consisting chiefly of Olein, with a small proportion of the Glyceride of Linolic acid, and commonly sold as Peach Kernel oil (Ol. Amygdae Pers.). From the cake is distilled, by digestion with alcohol, an essential oil (0l. Amygdae Essent. Pers.) which contains a colourless, crystalline glucoside, Amygdalin, and is chemically identical with that of the bitter almond. The essential oil is used in confectionery and as a culinary flavouring. http://www.woodlandnut.com/images/apricot_orchard_200p.JPG ---Medicinal Action and Uses---Apricot oil is used as a substitute for Oil of Almonds, which it very closely resembles. It is far less expensive and finds considerable employment in cosmetics, for its softening action on the skin. It is often fraudulently added to genuine Almond oil and used in the manufacture of soaps, cold creams and other preparations of the perfumery trade. Apricot Kernel Oil Apricot Kernel Oil is rich in the essential fatty acids: oleic and linoleic. Apricot oil is known for its ability to penetrate the skin without leaving an oily feel. Its moisturizing, revitalizing properties are also popular in many cosmetics for dry or aged skin. Apricot kernel oil is also popular as a massage oil and it used as a carrier oil when used with essential oils for aromatherapy. -= Massage =- Oils made with Apricot Oil are superior to other types of oils as they provide "slip and glide for massage -= Aromatherapy =- with Apricot Oils provides a superior carrier oil, having a light consistency. > Contains: B vitamins, folic acid, vitamin A, vitamin B1, vitamin C, vitamin P. Its nice white flowers often tinged with pink sprout in Spring, before the dentate, shiny and tough leaves. During Summer, they give way to big drupes the fleshy juicy and tasty mesocarp of which is eaten. These fruit and their almonds are used in medicine, for food or in magic. Arab doctors used to recommend the oil extracted from apricot stones to cure haemorrhoids, aching noses and earache. It is also commonly used as a regenerative, nourishing and softening beauty mask. Raw or cooked, apricot is linked with choice desserts (marmalades, jams, crystallized fruit), but beware the fruit is ripe because unripe apricots are difficult to digest. Very rich in oil, its sweet almond is edible. [ August 21, 2002, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 iskapes chat hoyakap mirg e. lavaguyn@ mrgeri mej.tsavok srti aystegh americayum ayn bokhki ham uni. inchpes nayev myus bolor mrgern u banjareghenner@. vaghuts e arden hamov-hotov, karkin tsiran chem jashakel. -----tsirani tsar bar mi tar,jghnerd irar mi tar....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 22, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Apricot Seed(Prunus armeniaca)Apricot seeds, or pits, contain amygdalin which the medication Laetrile is produced. It has been used as a treatment for cancer. Warning: Many stories of Laetrile as a cure for cancer have been spread though the FDA does not allow its use here in the U.S. They say that its claims to cure cancer have not been substantiated and that some people who have used laetrile rather than traditional treatments, have died. Some people suffering from cancer and wanting to use it will go to Mexico for treatment with Laetrile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 22, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 You mean to tell me that something natural is actually good for you? Wonder if it's part of the PRUNE family. Makes me have gas just thinking about it. belch....pharrttttt Apricot SeedLatin NamePrunus armeniaca General DescriptionPractitioners of Chinese medicine frequently use the inner kernel of apricots to relieve bronchial ailments. These seeds, also known as bitter almonds, are believed to serve as an expectorant, expelling mucus from the lungs and also as an agent to stop coughing. In addition apricot seeds are prescribed as a laxative. In traditional Chinese medicine, apricot seeds are classified as bitter and slightly warm. Target Ailments Coughing and wheezing, bronchitis, asthma, emphysema, constipation. (Taken internally.) PreparationsApricot seeds or decoctions such as cough syrups are available at Chinese pharmacies, Asian markets, and Western health food stores.Combinations: Chinese medicine practitioners recommend treating dry coughs with apricot seed and either white mulberry leaf or a tuber known as ophiopogon. The choice, depending on the nature of the cough, should be made in consultation with an herbalist, who can give you information on specific dosages and other herbal combinations. Special Information WARNING: Patients should take care with this herb, since it includes a poisonous substance. In the human body, the components of apricot seed break down into several products, including prussic acid, which is highly toxic. Chinese herbalists have reported that a dose of 50 to 60 kernels of apricot seed can kill adults, while just 10 kernels can be fatal in children. Activated charcoal and syrup of ipecac are recommended as antidotes to overdoses. Chinese medicine practitioners advise caution in using apricot seed to treat children or patients with diarrhea. In a clinical experiment, a paste of apricot seed and sugar seemed to benefit patients with chronic bronchitis. Some users, however, suffered bouts of headache and nausea. Possible InteractionsSome Chinese medicine practitioners believe that apricot seeds should not be taken in combination with astragalus, skullcap, or kudzu root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 22, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Besider catbohydrate, protein, fat, apricot. contains VB17 most. VB17 can prevent cancer very effectively, and it only kill the cancer-cells, it is completely toxic-free to the normal cells and healthy tissues.Apricot is mild-natured and tastes sweet and sour, it can motsten langs, relieve asthma, help to produce sahiva, and stake thirst.It is used fot the treatment of lumg cancer, breast cancer, cond nasopharyngeal cancer.Eating one or two fresh apricot or preserved apricot is the morning, at noon and in the evening each time can help produce saliva and slake thivst, moisten dtyness and relieve restlessness.Fresh apricot should not be eaten too much at one time, Lest spleen and stomach be hurted.Those who have loose stool are forbidden almond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Arpajan i need help Armeniaca vulgaris = Prunus Armenica = Apricot Almost all the flowers, the herbs, and the fruits, that grow in our European gardens, are of foreign extraction, which, in many cases, is betrayed even by their names: the apple was a native of Italy, and when the Romans had tasted the richer flavor of the apricot, the... the apricot, the peach, the pomegranate, the citron, and the orange, they contented themselves with applying to all these new fruits the common denomination of apple, discriminating them from each other by the additional epithet of their country. now i need to knwo - Prunus-i imast@ - yev -vulgaris- imast@ Plz Barekam i need help / shtap /Shnorhakal naxapesMovses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 (edited) now i need to knwo - Prunus-i imast@ - yev -vulgaris- imast@ Plz Barekam i need help / shtap /Shnorhakal naxapesMovsesWell, since Arpa isn't around yet... From Latin: Prunus: plum treeVulgaris (or volgaris): common, ordinary Correct me if I'm wrong. Nairi Edit: Here's a pretty cool link for translating Latin to English and v.v.:http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm Edited May 30, 2003 by nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 now i need to knwo - Prunus-i imast@ - yev -vulgaris- imast@ Plz Barekam i need help / shtap /Shnorhakal naxapesMovsesWell, since Arpa isn't around yet... From Latin: Prunus: plum treeVulgaris (or volgaris): common, ordinary Correct me if I'm wrong. Nairi Edit: Here's a pretty cool link for translating Latin to English and v.v.:http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm Very good Nairi! Is anything not originated from China? Prunus Armeniaca (tsiran), Prunus Persica (peach/deghdz), Narinj... what else? (The Arabs call narinj (besides narenj) burtuqal, and the Turks call it portukal. Why??)Oh! Yes I know. The only thing not attributed to China is... china(dinnerware).It has reached to ridiculous heights much like, when a cannibal was asked what the missionary's meat tasted like, he said; "Like chicken".(I just made this up). How many other viands do you know that taste like chicken?? History of china;http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/a/...a/apric050.html Poisonous? Apricot. One of sevarl sites.http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consume...son/Prunuar.htm Sometime ago Laetrile, Vit B17 was touted as a panacea for what ails you, including but not limited to cancer.Bitter pits of apricot as well as bitter almond contain cyanide. We used to soak bitter apricot pits in water for a long time, changing the water repeatedly. That removed the bitterness, cyanide and made it edible. What if we insist that Tsiran is native to Armenia, whether it was cultivated in China as well? It would be our word against their's. Our word is the "word" as it is stated in that Book; "In the beginning was the word..." Armenia is the "beginning". Remember? Eden was between Yeprat and Tigris!The name tsiran is supposed to have derived from the Persian zar/zir to mean gold. In fact tsirani is synonymous to voski. See sermonette below. As to zir/zar coming from Persian.... how about, the Persians having borrowed from us. We are so willing to share our assets, culture and land with the savages and in the process lose them. Not unlike our lands that were stolen from us and now we have to beg for them, or better yet die for them once again. As to tsirani=voski: Some recite the Eraguyn as Karmir Kapuyt Narnjaguyn. Narnjaguyn? Didn't we see above that narinj is from China/Portugal? Besides the color narnjaguyn is not exactly tsirani(golden), narinj is not, has never in zillion years been a native Armenian fruit. Tsiran IS. Why was it called narnjaguyn (repeat. Any color that ends in the -"guyn" is not native Armenian word, like mokhraguyn v gorsh, srjaguyn v toukh etc), those who named it narnjaguyn probably knew as much Armenian language and culture as a Zimbaweian of today.It is not Karmir Kapuyt Narnjaguyn. Too long too ugly, khzhalur. It is the poetic Karmir Kapuyt (ev) Tsiarni.Now just for that, let us all join in singing; Tsapik, taspik Tsirani...Note the ending; VOSKI tel tel mazer@ hov@ arer k@ tani. How is that MosJan? Does that cause your teeth to turn tsirani/voski/gold?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Oops! Here is that History iod china. http://www.spode.co.uk/history/history_finebone.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Prunus: plum tree[/quote It is the poetic Karmir Kapuyt (ev) Tsiarni.Allow me to rephrase the above.As always try and recite this 6 times fast;Karmir Kapuyt Narnjaguyn. Now try this;Karmir Kapuyt Tsirani, or Karmir Kapuyt ev Oski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Arpa jan urish HAneluk chunes indz hamar ??? Shnorhakal Nairi jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 (edited) Great stuff - thanks mosjan, et al. I am a huge apricot fan. We have a bowl full of fresh apricots in the kitchen even as I speak, we have apricot jam, apricot sauce (somewhat like apple sauce but with apricots...Trader Joes...what can I say...), dried apricots (I don't ever canoe or camp without them...) and an apricot tree in the yard (along with about a dozen other fruit trees of various sorts - some fairly exotic). The apricot - and I forgot the name of it - but its unique in that its pits can be dried an eaten without soaking/preparation and basically they taste like almonds...so the tree does double duty - fruit and nuts....yeah - the squirrels love them...LOL (I have pretty much lost that battle...) Edited June 3, 2003 by THOTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Great stuff - thanks mosjan, et al. I am a huge *****various sorts - some fairly exotic). The apricot - and I forgot the name of it - but its unique in that its pits can be dried an eaten without soaking/preparation and basically they taste like almonds...so the tree does double duty - fruit and nuts....yeah - the squirrels love them...LOL (I have pretty much lost that battle...) I was amiss. When I aired that site about apricots (poison), it was in response to Nairi's comment about the bitter. In fact bitter pits of apricots are the exception rather than the rule. Most apricots have sweet pits and they are edible, just like almonds, and they taste like almonds (nush). In fact most almonds are sweet as well only very few would be bitter. It is the bitter almond/apricot that has the cyanide. Apricot pits and almonds are sweet a a rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 here is US, the whole apricot is not eatable.it tastes like crap. more like "boghk".sorry. a relative of ours recently went to Armenia for the first time, and the greatest discovery that he made for himself was that apricots taste sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 apricots sweet taste ~~~ Dziran Guzzemmmmmm Harout ap bartser dzenov mi asa Siphan@ imana el Hayastan tsiran chi mna hesa arden mi qani orits tsirani iskakan jamankna Yerevan / amsi 15 kormer@ mer Hayastanu Tsirn e Hasnum , ov motena Arajin@ n@ran e Hasnum ~~~ Iys Amar@ Shat em yerazel ~im sirt'n el e ~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 LOL - YES! This time next month, I will be in Yerevan eating sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet tsiran! The fruit here tastes unripe also, except for mangos - love mangos! The thing Im most looking forward to eating though is Armenian cherries (expessially those yellow ones). Here their expensive and also lack taste! You guys cant complain though, I havnt been back for 10.5 years, almost half my whole life . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 next month ???? Shat ush klini tsirani hamar - amenalav tsiran@ jun-15th to -jul-15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 Yes, Im going to be there from 2nd July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 bax@t berets chmornanas Tsiran (1KILo) uteluts heto 1 Bajak Sarr@ Jur xmes Ax im HAyreniqis Jur@:)00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 here is US, the whole apricot is not eatable.it tastes like crap. more like "boghk".sorry. a relative of ours recently went to Armenia for the first time, and the greatest discovery that he made for himself was that apricots taste sweet. Yes, indeed most supermarket Tsiran tastes like "boghK, or as the average American would say; "Like.... chicken". If you want to know what real apricot tastes like go to Fresno (where the whole industry was begun by our ancestors) as I did, in late June or early July and pick one off the tree.I can never forget how the sweet juice/nectar ran down my elbow as I bit it. I had to take a shower to wash off all that shakar.Even then it cannot beat the tsiran at its birthplace, the Province of Yerevan. I missed it during my last visit but I gorged on TUZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Thank you Johannes. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14...mp;#entry219566 "Բայց օգտուելով առիթից, ես կուզէի այստեղ ցոյց տալ նման մի աստուածանուան–ուրարտ. Turan- եւ խոռ. Tiranna- անդրադարձումը հայոց լեզուի մէջ եւ շեշտել այս դէպքում եւս խուռի-սուբարեան առաջնութիւնը ուրարտականի հանդէպ: Խոռեան (Խուռիտական, Հուռիական) tiranna կամ dTiranna նշանակել է «ծիածան»** եւ դրա աստուածացումը, որից ունենք Նուզիի փաստաթղթերում Ar-tiranna «նուէր Տիրաննայի» յատուկ այրանունը: Ըստ իս այդ tiran- «ծիածան» բառը հեշտութեամբ կարող էր դառնալ հայերէնում «ծիրան» տ>ծ փոխանցմամբ, ինչպէս՝ տատանիմ (տանիմ բայից) եւ ծածանիմ, պիղծ>պղտոր, պարտ (հպարտ, ամպարտաւան)>պարծիմ, աղտեղութիւն//աղծութիւն, կեղտ>կեղծ...բարբառներում՝ տո//ծո, Տրդատ>Ծրդատ եւ այլն եւ այլն: Իսկ հայոց ծիրան-ի բառը հնում նշանակել է «գեղեցիկ կարմիր խառն դեղինի հետ, վարդագոյն ոսկեգոյն, մանուշակագոյն, ծովագոյն, երկնագոյն» (ըստ առձ. բառարանի) եւ ոչ մի կապ չունի ծիրան պտղի հետ: Մեր ժողովուրդը ծիածանին ասում է «կանաչ ու կարմիր» եւ բնական է որ հայոց ծիրանի բառը նախկին tiran- «ծիածան»ից ժառանգած ունենար այդ «կարմիր-դեղին» կամ ժողովրդական «կանաչ ու կարմիր» գոյնը: Միւս ուժեղ յատկանիշը այդ ծիածանի աղեղնաձեւ լինելն է եւ այդ յականիշը պահել են վրացիք ჭირანო čirano (ճիրանո) «լուսնի բակը»: Ի դէպ վրաց լեզւում ծիրան պտուղը կոչւում է ჭერამი čirami, որ ինչպէս տեսնում ենք տարբերւում է čirano «աղեղ, բակ» բառից թէ իմաստով եւ թէ հնչմամբ: Խոռերէնում tiranna «ծիածան» բառը համարւում է փոխառեալ սումերերէնից (տե'ս Nuzi personal names, էջ 267): Իսկ որ «ծիածանը» կարող է եւ աստուածացուել, այդ ցոյց է տալիս եւ յուն. iris «ծիածան» եւ Irida դիցուհու անունը, որպէս աստուածների համբաւաբերի. Ինչպէս տեսնում ենք խոռ. Tiran- դիցանունը աւելի մօտ է հայոց ծիրան- եւ վրաց čirano բառերին իր ձեւով, քան ուրարտ. Turan դիցանուան ձեւը: Սա եւս գալիս է ասելու, որ հայոց շատ բառեր, թէ յատուկ եւ թէ հասարակ, աւելի շուտ հարաւից*** են, խուռիական (խոռեան) Արիմէ-Շուպրիայից, քան Ուրարտուից: ** Մեզմէ ոմանք ծիածանը կը ճանաչեն «ծիրանի գօտի» անունով: ***Հայաստանի հարաւ արեւմտեան գաւառներից: Նկատողում. -Ծիրան պտուղը ծիրանի գօտիի (ծիածան) նման կանաչ-կարմիր-դեղին եւ կոր է: -«Չիր»ը, այսինքն չորացած պտուղը, հաւանաբար ծիրան պտուղի անուան առաջին մասէն (ծիր-ճիր) առաջացած է:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) ԾԻՐԱՆ Edited February 25, 2009 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 In another thread we spoke about how some people claim to be the world’s biggest producers and exporter of Apricot, and that they will create a world council about it. Here is the somewhat other sad face of the coin. Yes, we do remember that untimely frost when the buds and the flowers were frozen. Now, can we hear what Armenian sources are saying?? Caution the source of this news is not Armeno-friendly.ARMENIA NOT TO EXPORT APRICOTS FreshPlazaApril 6 2010 Apricot crops in Armenia will be low due to the recent frost. Chairman of the Armenian agrarian union Grach Berberyan said theapricot crops in Armenia will be low due to the recent frost,therefore, he says there will be no export of production. Tert.am reports that the gathered crop will hardly meet the demandsof the internal market. He predicts the average price of a kilo ofapricots to make up 500 drams. The frost damaged almost all apricot trees of Armavir. The damage inArarat made up 50%. Mostly mountainous regions where apricot treeshaven't blossomed yet have benefited. The official export of apricot from Armenia made up 8000 tons in 2009. http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=61518 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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