Guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 quote:Originally posted by Nvard:That's really sweet.... But why did you call me Lena????????????When i cheked your ICQ it was Elena Khachatrian... so... Lena :))) if i am wrong then sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 Lena jan, You are totally right.What i meant is that if you are born in christian family then the only religion for you is christianity. I clearly remeber that day, when i was about 3-4 y.o. My parents with all my relatives took me to church in Leninakan, i didn't know what was happening. I was watching these big "paintings" of some Man (Jesus Christ) on it. I asked my grandparents who is he? The one old man with a big birb started to say something and then my uncle took me and put to some water, i was so scared, and was crying. After that they gave me a nice small golden cross. Everynight when i was a kid i was kissing it. My grandmother tought me some small prayers and everytime i was scared of something i used to say those prayers... :: )) Artur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 I think the thing here is to be true to yourself. There is nothing wrong with searhing through parts of the Bible (or any other religious book) And see what works for you. Is that not religious too? By not going along with the reverend, preists, pope's, etc, interpretations because of organisational culture-pressures is good too because I think their interpretations is just as valuable as anyone's. Not that I have any disrespect of their faith. I think of aim of religion sometimes IS to control other people lives, so they can surrender it to it. This works very well for some people (perhaps they need a structure they cant provide for themselevs. Many Jehovah's witennesses are a good example of this) but another aim is to aid an induvidual's control over their own life. MJ, I didn't know that about Judaism and non-beleivers! The opportunity of salvation arguement I feel is a good one (this supports what I was telling Pilafhead in an earlier post, about priests thinking if you don't do bad and also not nesscessarliy any good, it will take you to heaven, as opposed to a non-christian who lived their lives in a righteous way) I have said this before and I will say it again: any beleif or way of life that leaves a person contented with their life, have control over it, gets the best of of him/her and gives their best to other people, is a beleif worthwhile. But seeing Raffia's last sentence, saying this is fine but if they don't apply any structure or discipline in their life then it will just become another meaningless life. Now this is where juggling the balance between scriptures, teachers of it and personal beleifs(where sometimes you may dissagree!) becomes difficult! Seing injustices in the world I beleive drives people to beleive. The saying "life is not fair" is one of the first we learn as kids because we say "it's not fair"innocently without knowing any better, then the adults tell us. Why isn't it fair?Because it just isn't.Well it should be. Unfair and bad things should'nt happen!So surely, we think, there is someone/something (God) or a place (heaven) where things are !And so, religious organisations were created! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 And, we are still searching for this "thing", in this life and /or the next. The supernatural! Mhhm. The bible did say "supernatural powers DID come about (the miracles one example, the angel gabriel, moses on the mountain) But NONE of it said "This is Judaism, this is Christianity, create it" both those religions base their beleifs on the old testament, and even Islam considers Christ as one of it's prophets. They simply according to the books, gave whatever information they gave and the people did whatever they did with it. But another side of this is the bible said they said "Jesus is the son of god" although they didnt SAY create christianity they are contrating the other religions of the era, that didnt beleive in the Father, the son, and the holy spirit. Artur, if people insult religions that are not theirs they are immature, stiupid, and they have some learning to do. But that's the problem! A lot of people with strong beleifs beleive what is THEIRS is right and he others are all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 quote:Originally posted by Artur: Originally posted by Nvard:That's really sweet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 Ok ok, Nvard jan, kneres... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 I will try to give some answers to some questions raised here. Why the God makes us to suffer so much? Because if there are no bad things, you'll never know what the good things are. Immagine this: we wake up tomorrow and see a fair world with everybody having very good houses, very good cars, every kind of food, no hatered, no differences, everything comfortable, convenient and equal (much like communism). What will happen next? We'll be bored to death. Why not to make it unequal but safe, with no diseases, no hunger, no wars, no killings, no crime etc.? Because the development will stop. What I understand when saying God. It is something I can't explain either by my body or by my brains. Are there any questions which will never be answered by the human brain? Yes there are.1.Which is the most smallest part of materia?Atoms, ions etc. If you reach the smallest one you can always devide it into two... 2.Which is the biggest of materia? Universe. Where it ends? There is a wall in the end. What is behind that wall? Light. Where it ends?...I believe that this questions are answered by the soul. What is soul? Something other than the body and the thinking. I think it is self-conscious contraversial energy, which is a part of the God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 From an email I received today._____________________________________________An old man was asked, "How can a fervent brother not be shocked when he sees others returning to the world?" And he said, "Watch the dogs who chase hares. When one of them has seen a hare, he pursues it until he catches it, without being concerned with anything else. The others, seeing the dog launched in pursuit, run with it for a short time and soon come back. Only the one who has seen the hare follows ittill he catches it, not letting himself be turned from his course by those who go back, and not caring about the ravines, rocks, and undergrowth. So it is with him who seeks Christ as Master; ever mindful of the Cross, he cares nothing about any of the scandals that occur, till he reaches the Crucified One." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Right to the point and into the heart of the subject matter! Nothing, nobody, counts in your lifetime pursue for Salvation and resuraction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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