Armenian Atheists?????

[Guest]

Tgha jun...

 

It is enough for anyone to read several of your postings as to understand who is the freak here, who is endowed by nothing but a big mouth, and a defected brain. Just one example “...my father doesn't believe in God,” “I think Armenians who call themselves atheists are not armenians.”

 

Am I questioning your traditions or morals? Do you follow any traditions or morals? Though I have to admit, I am not quite familiar with Kazakh traditions and morals.

 

If you are as concerned as you have said you were about being protected from “Satan,” instead of relaying on the Cross, work on your pathological pride, as not to be chosen by the “Satan” in the first place. I guess, this may sound like Chinese to you, right? How would you know, if you never read anything, nor have enough brain to understand what you read, since your brain would switch off, if the text is more than one page...

 

If your father had anything to post in this forum, you would've leaned something from him, and could've at least posted something normal that you had heard from him. And does your father know how are you wasting his money in England, or does he think you are there to study?

 

To discover who has psychological problems, one has to read only part of your former postings. And one can discover that you have not only psychological and intellectual problems, but you also have psychiatric and sexapathological problems. I hope you would not force me to expend in this direction.

 

You are having illusions if you think I am arguing with you. At some point, I tried to educate you. I thought you might be smart enough to pick something up. But, apparently, you are not from that material to learn. I am not arguing with you now, I am just saying "shut your lousy mouth,” and use it in proportion God has given you mouth and ears.

 

So that you can recommend me to go and earn some money, first you come down from the shoulders of your daddy, accomplish something in your life, beyond gaining a reputation of a moron, softly speaking, and as I have suggested you once, think hard, when you open your mouth, because nothing meaningful comes out of it when you speak. And it is not an issue of knowing English. Nothing meaningful comes from your mouth, even when you speak Russian, and I doubt that you can speak Armenian at all...

 

And before you feel you are in a position of talking "as a man," become one first, by not trying to establish your "manhood" at the expense of women.

[Guest]

MJ and Artur,

 

 

Guys tell me that you were joking and it was not "fight" between two of you because when I read your replies to each other I couldn't help but laugh. For this matter, I think Caro should either create a new forum called (personal insult and fights), or delete your insulting posts.

[Guest]

Here are a few lines from a moview I recently watched ("Chocolat")

 

Kid 1: People say she is an atheist.

Kid 2: What's an atheist?

Kid 1: Don't know.

[Guest Fadi]

Armenians indentity is more based on their common cultures that language is a big part of. We can not cathegorise Armenians that are atheist as not Armenians. Who we are to say they are Armenians or not ? Why a Christian Armenian should be more Armenian then a Muslim one ? Who is enought knowledgebale to determine who is a true Armenian ?

 

Ignorence is the base of this kind of statments. Here is a link to who's want to read about Muslim Armenians, they represent one of the biggest group in the black see, numbering some hundreds of thousands.

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~lingpub/misc/b.../forgot%7E1.pdf

 

Good reading.

[Guest Fadi]

When I say this kind of statment I mean to be arrogant enought to determine who is a true Armenian. You feal Armenian you are one. I think it is just a question of choice.

[MadArmo]

Ok, Who's the real Armenian ??

[MJ]

The Mad ones.

[Guest]

Yep I agree with that.

 

Domino

finally you have something that even I would agree.

 

Oh my god , he is getting Open Minded.

What am i to do?

[Guest Fadi]

This forum is big and had a lots of topics, I don,t think the "so-called" Circassian has to follow me everywere that I go.

[Guest]

childish or what

[nairakev]

My mother is Hamshentsi. She is from Krasnodar region in Southern Russia. She isn't moslim, but she knew the existence of moslim armenians and lately I met a student who was studing ethnology in the university. She introduced me for the first time to the reality of armenian moslims. I was young, and that was a big time to think over the religion issue.

I never felt myself religious. I loved going to churchs to listen to the organ music and the choral singing. I've been in mosquee. Secretly. But I've been. I never tried yet to enter a synagogue, but I've seen inside while standing outside.

I've heard in the top of this thread someone's sayings about what the real armenian should be. I think it is just rediculous and pathetic, to imagine that being an armenian got something to do with religion. Our history starts far before the christianity... so think over it too.

I think for many arabs being a moslim has to do a lot with the fact that this religion was brought by an arab and koran is writen in arabic language. The same way feel jews, I guess, about judaism. When I think what is the reason to prefer one religion to another while they all are directed to the same old myth 'GOD'. Is this because we have to follow traditions instored by our grandparents, or it is about protecting ethnic identity?

I find no conveincing replies.
If it is about following traditions, I'd say traditions change. And the worst of them often do disappear.

If it is about identity.
I think christianity has nothing to do with our ethnic "identity". Yes it has influenced our way of living, our culture, it helped to stay different while we were invaded. But as soon as we found ourselves in a christian-dominated country we assimilated easily and dissappeared as ethnicity.

So what is it? Why the hell we are christians?

[nairakev]

this is for a guy who's name is Artur

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You know I didn't go through Koran... I regret that I didn't do it. I will certainly. When I'll be less lazy. It is a book for me... I don't know why I've got the feeling that as many books to read a 'wonderful' idea you have to read also tones of useless lines accompanied like a sauce to a good steak.

 

I've tried once to follow the Ramadan. I quit smoking, making love :-) [what a religion?], I've reduced my daily ratio of all earthly sins to minimum... But I'm too lazy. So I quit after 15 days.

It's a pure torture... an excersie for mazochists. The only positive thing.

I've lost a bit of my weight.

 

Though when I see many folks working out their bodies and keeping a 'starving' diet regime, I think they are religious as well... may be not moslims, but it is a kind of religion which become more and more popular among all ethnicities.