alpha Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Priests, missionaries sexually abuse nunsMarch 20, 2001source CNN VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -- The Vatican acknowledged on Tuesday a damning report that some priests and missionaries were forcing nuns to have sex with them, and were in some cases committing rape and forcing the victims to have abortions. Some nuns were forced to take the contraceptive pill, the report cited in the Rome daily la Repubblica said. The Vatican said the issue was restricted to a certain geographical area, but the report cited cases in 23 countries, including the United States, Brazil, the Philippines, India, Ireland and Italy. "The stories are horrifying and disturbing to say the least," said Bill Ryan, spokesman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. However he added that he was not aware of anything similar in the United States. "The National Catholic Reporter ... offered no documentation for that. I don't know how you would investigate something like that unless you had specifics or a charge," he added. The charges first appeared in the Kansas City-based National Catholic Reporter weekly on March 16 and in a small Italian religious news agency Adista, which also publishes a weekly. Limit of human enduranceMissionary news agency MISNA condemned the abuse while recalling that missionaries often worked "at the limit of human endurance." It urged the media to remember the good deeds of missionaries around the world as well as their failings. A Vatican statement said "in relation to the news of cases of sexual abuse against nuns committed by priests and missionaries, Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls had the following announcement: "The problem is known about and is restricted to a certain geographical area. "The Holy See is dealing with the issue in collaboration with bishops, the Union of Superiors General (grouping of heads of male religious orders) and the International Union of Superiors General (heads of female religious orders)." While the Vatican did not name the geographical area, the report said most incidents of sexual abuse against nuns occurred in Africa where the nuns were identified as "safe" following the onset of the HIV and AIDS viruses devastating the continent. Nuns forced to abortCharges made in the report, signed with names and surnames, were made known to Church authorities on several occasions throughout the 1990s, the article by la Repubblica's respected Vatican correspondent Marco Politi said. The author of the report was nun and physician Maura O'Donohue, who presented it to the head of the Vatican's Congregation for Holy Orders, Cardinal Martinez Somalo, in February 1995. He ordered a working group from the Congregation to study the problem with O'Donohue, who was AIDS coordinator for Cafod, the London-based Roman Catholic Fund for Overseas Development. O'Donohue made specific reference to certain cases, one in which a priest forced a nun to have an abortion, after which she died. He then officiated at her requiem mass. In reference to Africa, her report said: "It is impossible (there) for a woman or an adolescent to refuse a man, especially an older man and in particular a priest." In Africa, certain priests sought out nuns "for fear of contracting AIDS with prostitutes." "There are cases in which priests make nuns take the pill, ...and there was one case of 20 nuns in one religious community being pregnant at the same time," the article cited the report as saying. A mother superior was continually ignored by the local bishop when she complained that priests in the diocese had made 29 of her nuns pregnant. The bishop relieved her of her duties, the report said without identifying the diocese. Sexual favorsIn 1998, Marie McDonald, mother superior of the Missionaries of Our Lady of Africa, presented her report on "sexual abuse and rape committed by priests and bishops." The Vatican is monitoring the situation, making sure bishops were aware of the phenomenon, but no direct action has been taken, the article said. Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement: "We are working on two fronts, training of people and finding a solution to individual cases. "Some negative cases cannot let us forget the often heroic faith expressed by the large majority of those men and women in religious orders and of the clergy." MISNA echoed his words, saying: "If on the one hand... these incidents of alleged sexual abuse cannot and should not be denied or justified, on the other hand they prompt us to reflect on the conditions in which the majority of the tens of thousands of missionaries live on the fringes of the so-called Third World. "Many of them live in situations of extreme psychological and physical hardship, at the limits of human endurance." La Repubblica quoted McDonald as she knew of no inspections taking place after her report. "Then there is the conspiracy of silence which makes the problem worse. Only if we confront this together, will we be able to find a solution," she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Bad but not anusual. Recently I had watched a documentary about Roman Catholic priests who were effected by HIV. Almost 300 priests were experiencing homosexuality inside their churches. I think its better to make sex with nuns than with each other, and may be the time had come to allow priests and nuns to get married and raise their family officially . Any comments? ----------------- Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Oh REALLY(?) No Shit(!) I would have NEVER guessed the catholic church is corrupt! Yes, there is sexual abuse going on by priests also of children, and by nuns to children. This situation is getting way out of hand. People like this can beome preists because the system is a convenient cover-up for them. More to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Catholic church is messed up. So are the Protestants. Apostolic-Orthodoxy is the way. Bring back Byzantium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayane Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Richard, all organized religion is corrupt Jesus Christ, I had no idea anything of the sort was going on! Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Gayane:Richard, all organized religion is corrupt Jesus Christ, I had no idea anything of the sort was going on! Wow!i dunno about that, some of the people being corrupt doesn't make it all corrupt.but the catholics have a long list of dirty laundry, from making up purgatory, moving Christmas, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 I think it is the time that you try to restrain the rage of your hormones, first. Second, it is your prerogative to try to prove yourself whatever you need to prove so that to validate your persona in your eyes. But you can do it privately. You just would be better off. Additionally, I find that the dilatants with initiative are worse than the dilatants in general. And I would advise you to try to take a better care of your neck, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:I think it is the time that you try to restrain the rage of your hormones, first.Second, it is your prerogative to try to prove yourself whatever you need to prove so that to validate your persona in your eyes. But you can do it privately. You just would be better off. Additionally, I find that the dilatants with initiative are worse than the dilatants in general. And I would advise you to try to take a better care of your neck, dude.I can honestly say that I just don't care what you think about me. You are, afterall, the one who called me 'just a brainwashed kid'. You have obviously been prejudiced against me from the start, I care not what your opinions are of me. Stay away from and do not reply to my posts, and I will do the same.Good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Don't flatter yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:i dunno about that, some of the people being corrupt doesn't make it all corrupt.but the catholics have a long list of dirty laundry, from making up purgatory, moving Christmas, etc.So some of the catholics being corrupt makes their entire church corrupt, but some of the apostolic-orthodoxes being corrupt doesn't make them so, right?And don't the apostolic-orthodoxes have a list of dirty laundary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:So some of the catholics being corrupt makes their entire church corrupt, but some of the apostolic-orthodoxes being corrupt doesn't make them so, right?And don't the apostolic-orthodoxes have a list of dirty laundary?wow dude, did you miss the boat or what. it wasn't 'some catholics' who changed the date of Christmas, it wasn't 'some Catholics' who made up Purgatory, etc.you could argue it was 'some Catholics' who sent their children through for the Child Crusades.I'd like to know what the Armenian Church's dirty laundry is, minus of course the Constantinopouli Patriarche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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