Artsakh: Armenian region with a Christian background

[Zartonk]

Artsakh: Armenian region with a Christian background: Euronews

 

 

 

“Nestled in the ragged fertile mountains of the Southern Caucasus the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh is once again in the headlines,” Michael Reichmann, Euronews TV company reporter says, underlining that the name itself means maintenance of black garden. Armenians who make up 95% of the population in NKR call their homeland “the strong forest”. The journalist points out that for many Karabakh Armenians “religious faith remained deeply important part of their lives”. There are hundreds of traditional Armenian churches and monasteries in NKR.

 

 

The reporter quotes Armenian studies professor Bernard Coulie, as saying “Karabakh is a fascinating region which has very much the same culture as Armenia. We are in a real Armenian region with a Christian background which is very important. We are in the heart of Armenia but not in a political sense. That is also very interesting.”

 

 

Reichmann informs that Nagorno-Karabakh declared independence in 1991 after collapse of Soviet Union. It resulted in war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. In 1994 the conflict finally ended after the Russians brokered the ceasefire. However, the territory is not still internationally recognized. NKR President Bako Sahakyan states that “it is no secret that Azerbaijan chose to militarize. We’ve stated many times that we would like to avoid any military conflicts. However, that does not mean we are not ready to defend ourselves.”

 

 

Armenia took control of the region but no one lives here any more. All is left are empty and mostly destroyed houses. The war cost 17.000 Armenians and 25.000 Azeris. In solidarity with Azerbaijan Turkey closed its border to Armenia. Nearly a million people were also displaced by the war.

 

 

Since the 1994 ceasefire, the region is fallen in so-called frozen conflict despite that both Azerbaijani and Armenian armies are on high alert. One of Armenian soldiers says, “I want peace for my country, that’s why we are here. I do not want this situation to carry on. I would like to be able to live in peace. However it’s our duty to stay here.”

 

 

Many Armenians living inside Azerbaijan have also moved to the region. They were forced to flee after large-scale anti-Armenian riots in Azeri capital, Baku in 1988. Reichmann quotes one of refugees — Michael Sargsyan, “I am very happy to be in my homeland. The good thing about our tragedy is that we are here now. That’s very good. I believe in God. I strongly believe in him. That has helped me and my family.”

 

 

 

The tension is stirred in the region. There are hopes that the hostility might be eased. Armenian and Turkish Presidents attended the qualifying matches of both countries’ national football teams in the frames of World Cup 2010. Both states signed historical documents on the establishment of bilateral relations. Equally significant was the meeting of Armenian and Azerbaijani Presidents in the end of November in the course of which both Presidents expressed readiness to settle the conflict peacefully.

 

 

As to the ratification of the Protocols, RA President Serzh Sargsyan remains positive, “Armenians and Turks should be able to ratify the Protocols, because both our parties have the majority in our respective parliaments. We must use our political will, otherwise what was the point of the signing the protocols. We are ready to ratify and we expect Turkey to do the same.”

Edited December 2, 2009 by Zartonk
corrections

[Armat]

Thanks for the post.Any positive mention of Armenian Christen NK or Artsakh is good news.We need more articles like this to counteract Azeri lies.

[Arpa]

Dear Zartonk , thanks for the post. Edited December 2, 2009 by Arpa

[Zartonk]

Welcome both, and thanks Arpa for pointing the errors out. I just rechecked the source (panorama.am) and the mistakes are from the original. We should contact them.

[Zartonk]

By the way, I thought the K word was blocked...

[Arpa]

By the way, I thought the K word was blocked...

Dear Zartonk, ՑԱՒԴ ՏԱՆԵՄ, I feel your pain.

I am not sure if the filter placed here is still functioning. This matter is so pervasive and there are so many ways to spell the word and abbreviations thereof that no one filter can handle them all, every day I see the K word or a variant of it slip in. What we did here is commendable but it is only a drop in the bucket. Until and unless there is a universal and well organized campaign this problem will not go away, only get bigger. As I indicated before, the problem is at the top, it is at the HEAD, and as the saying goes- When the head is gone the foot will be washed away in the FLOOD.

99% of publications and official communiqués emanating from Yerevan, Stepanakert, the Homeland, the Diaspora, every news paper every, every cyber news agency, church literature use the K word in one form or other. There has to be a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS campaign Yes we know it is hard to break old customs, teach an old dog new tricks. It has to be in an organized manner. In case we fear that the message will be lost specially in the international media, the least we can do is like Sassounian does , use the parenthesis system like “also known as” or “ formerly known as” etc until the international media learns the proper Armenian name of the COUNTRY.

We here did a good job filtering the K word and P word, but when credible celebrities like Balakian goes on national TV and refers to that dog as talaat** P**** several times… Does he know that that (honorific) title was bestowed on that dog and all the other dogs for murdering the entire Armenian nation, and it is not part of their giver names?

To see how pervasive this is, every time I received communications from our well respected organizations, be they the AAA, ANCA and others, I throw up when I see the K word with no qualifications. The least they can do is print the name in bright red as a sign of SHAME. I give up. I have reached the end of my rope. So much so that I don’t even want to see those pieces of rags , the so called “ Armenian” newspapers. I hope they are generously compensated by baku and ankara for the free propaganda.

I just received the latest of one of those “rags” , on the front cover page three major news all printed in huge bold headlines… “Difficulties reported"… where the K word is used unabashedly, “ NKR Leadership Makes Boston…” where we see Abp Martirosian’s picture etc. , “ Grandson of Cemal P*** makes overture…” First off, why are they spelling the name with furkish orthography?

Ad all these are written and eidited by " armenian" writers and editors? Don’t they know that the C in furkish sounds like the English J and tat writing “cemal” will be read as “semal” in English? But above all, why do they feel obligated to call that dog p****(prince)? Prince of what? Who is forcing us? Who is paying us to advertise those dogs as some kind of nobility?***

In conclusion. Where is our HEAD, or do we think with our #@$%-s? Until and unless we deliberately and consciously pause for a moment, take a deep breath before we invoke those names , be they geographical or personal, unless we take time and contact each and every “to whom it may concern”, or in open blanket letters this problem will not go away!!!

Btw. Speaking of the “head”. We know what Pres. Bako S. calls his Country. What does Abp Parkev M. call his Homeland and Diocese?

** That is an honorific title bestowed on them for services rendered to the sultan, like murdering Armenians, the bigger the number of murders the bigger the P in their title.. Much like te knighting in Britain and calling them “Sir”. Do we refer to Paul McCacrtney as “Sir Paul”, Elton John as “ Sir Elton”, or even “Sir Winston“ (Churchill)?

Whrre does it say we are obligated to call those dogs "qaqa-kaka"?

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*** We are so retarded and trapped in that miry quicksand of the past!! Some of us will still refer to Zoravar Andranik and Boghos Noubar****

as p****!!! The P word must be banned in all and every Armenian literature!!!

**** Boghos Noubar, the god of ADL-Ramkavar AGBU ( in Paris, the City of Lights) declined the offer of the presidency of the First Republic with words like - “What business do I have in that god forsaken dusty old village-Yerevan?”

I wish I could remember where I read that. Is it buried somewhere in that MusaLeratsi Andranik Chelebian’s opus General Andranik/Զօրավար Անդրանիկ that I read some time ago? Btw. This book is mainly based on a dusty box of papers found by accident in one of the attics of AUB before they were destroyed, compiled and preserved by a one time University president Stanley Kerr, when he by serendipity spotted clippings from such as NYT et al dealing with the Armenian Saga, and he commandeered the “box“.

http://www.abrilbooks.com/books/2085.html

Edited December 2, 2009 by Arpa

[Armat]

Dear Zartonk, ՑԱՒԴ ՏԱՆԵՄ, I feel your pain.

I am not sure if the filter placed here is still functioning. This matter is so pervasive and there are so many ways to spell the word and abbreviations thereof that no one filter can handle them all, every day I see the K word or a variant of it slip in. What we did here is commendable but it is only a drop in the bucket. Until and unless there is a universal and well organized campaign this problem will not go away, only get bigger. As I indicated before, the problem is at the top, it is at the HEAD, and as the saying goes- When the head is gone the foot will be washed away in the FLOOD.

99% of publications and official communiqués emanating from Yerevan, Stepanakert, the Homeland, the Diaspora, every news paper every, every cyber news agency, church literature use the K word in one form or other. There has to be a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS campaign Yes we know it is hard to break old customs, teach an old dog new tricks. It has to be in an organized manner. In case we fear that the message will be lost specially in the international media, the least we can do is like Sassounian does , use the parenthesis system like “also known as” or “ formerly known as” etc until the international media learns the proper Armenian name of the COUNTRY.

We here did a good job filtering the K word and P word, but when credible celebrities like Balakian goes on national TV and refers to that dog as talaat** P**** several times… Does he know that that (honorific) title was bestowed on that dog and all the other dogs for murdering the entire Armenian nation, and it is not part of their giver names?

To see how pervasive this is, every time I received communications from our well respected organizations, be they the AAA, ANCA and others, I throw up when I see the K word with no qualifications. The least they can do is print the name in bright red as a sign of SHAME. I give up. I have reached the end of my rope. So much so that I don’t even want to see those pieces of rags , the so called “ Armenian” newspapers. I hope they are generously compensated by baku and ankara for the free propaganda.

I just received the latest of one of those “rags” , on the front cover page three major news all printed in huge bold headlines… “Difficulties reported"… where the K word is used unabashedly, “ NKR Leadership Makes Boston…” where we see Abp Martirosian’s picture etc. , “ Grandson of Cemal P*** makes overture…” First off, why are they spelling the name with furkish orthography?

Ad all these are written and eidited by " armenian" writers and editors? Don’t they know that the C in furkish sounds like the English J and tat writing “cemal” will be read as “semal” in English? But above all, why do they feel obligated to call that dog p****(prince)? Prince of what? Who is forcing us? Who is paying us to advertise those dogs as some kind of nobility?***

In conclusion. Where is our HEAD, or do we think with our #@$%-s? Until and unless we deliberately and consciously pause for a moment, take a deep breath before we invoke those names , be they geographical or personal, unless we take time and contact each and every “to whom it may concern”, or in open blanket letters this problem will not go away!!!

Btw. Speaking of the “head”. We know what Pres. Bako S. calls his Country. What does Abp Parkev M. call his Homeland and Diocese?

** That is an honorific title bestowed on them for services rendered to the sultan, like murdering Armenians, the bigger the number of murders the bigger the P in their title.. Much like te knighting in Britain and calling them “Sir”. Do we refer to Paul McCacrtney as “Sir Paul”, Elton John as “ Sir Elton”, or even “Sir Winston“ (Churchill)?

----

*** We are so retarded and trapped in that miry quicksand of the past!! Some of us will still refer to Zoravar Andranik and Boghos Noubar****

as p****!!! The P word must be banned in all and every Armenian literature!!!

**** Boghos Noubar, the god of ADL-Ramkavar AGBU ( in Paris, the City of Lights) declined the offer of the presidency of the First Republic with words like - “What business do I have in that god forsaken dusty old village-Yerevan?”

I wish I could remember where I read that. Is it buried somewhere in that MusaLeratsi Andranik Chelebian’s opus General Andranik/Զօրավար Անդրանիկ that I read some time ago? Btw. This book is mainly based on a dusty box of papers found by accident in one of the attics of AUB before they were destroyed, compiled and preserved by a one time University president Stanley Kerr, when he by serendipity spotted clippings from such as NYT et al dealing with the Armenian Saga, and he commandeered the “box“.

http://www.abrilbooks.com/books/2085.html

One of the best books I read./General Andranik and the Armenian Revolutionary Movement

Antranig Chalabian/ specially events how we give up Kars without firing a bullet.History lessons are important to unite and stay strong.furks basically capitalized on the fact that Eastern and western Armenians were busing infighting and the country was run over by the furks.

Same crap to some degree now.I hope we stay strong to combat Azeri scum propaganda and keep Artsakh Armenian.

[Zartonk]

What we did here is commendable but it is only a drop in the bucket. Until and unless there is a universal and well organized campaign this problem will not go away, only get bigger.

 

99% of publications and official communiqués emanating from Yerevan, Stepanakert, the Homeland, the Diaspora, every news paper every, every cyber news agency, church literature use the K word in one form or other. There has to be a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS campaign

 

Absolutely right. The bottom line is, we have to understand the vital importance of language. Calling Van, Moush and Sasoon "Turkish Armenia" - or gods forbid "Eastern Anatolia"- only furthers the destruction of heritage our 'footballer brothers' wish for. When we bestow a name to something, that action grants it its very identity.

 

The efforts must be official and all-inclusive.

 

Find one church west of the RA whose Armenian designation has not been changed to X-kilisa.

Find one settlement in Artsakh that is still called by a native name such as Vararakn ("Stepanakert").

Find a SINGLE trace of civilization under Turkic hands that isn't attributed to ancient Asiatic nomads, be it Hittite, Cappadocian or Araratian.

 

How are we to defend us and ours when we won't even call it by our own?