nairi Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 vay yes es Amerikyan himar sistemi inchnem asel... Het gna Hayastan, aydqan sirum es Hayastanid hogh@ yev atum Amerikayi "himar sistemin"! I'd like to see how long you'll survive in Armenia's system before you come running back with your tail between your legs to the US! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 You shouldn't ask what Russell said, since he didn't even get to talk! You should ask what Vardan said, since he was the one doing all the talking. And what Vardan basically did was to accuse Russell of negationism and ram nationalist Armenian history down his throat (e.g. Anatolia should be called Armenian Highland, Armenians are native to the Armenian Highland, white people originated in Armenia, Armenian language is the mother of Indo-European; and supposedly more 'jocular' remarks like God speaks Armenian, Jesus was an Armenian, and Africans are a mix of Armenians and blacks). The only thing that I got out of Russell was that he believes Armenians to be native to the Armenian Highland/Anatolia/or whatever the heck you want to call it. This is not limited to us, se what Russel's tribesmen have done. You make up a fable, you tell a "lie", it goes around the globe a few million times, it come back to you, while, in the meantime you may have forgotten that you originated the fable, and you, once again begin to believe it as the "gospel truth". Do you want to hear more fables and "lies"? "We are the first Christians", "We are the world's brightest people". Even when the "world's dumbest people on both sides of our borders are sitting on 99% of our ancestral lands. Here is another fable- I AM THE EMPEROR OF CHINA, my name is MA-MING-GONG-JIANG!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) You shouldn't ask what Russell said, since he didn't even get to talk! You should ask what Vardan said, since he was the one doing all the talking. And what Vardan basically did was to accuse Russell of negationism and ram nationalist Armenian history down his throat (e.g. Anatolia should be called Armenian Highland, Armenians are native to the Armenian Highland, white people originated in Armenia, Armenian language is the mother of Indo-European; and supposedly more 'jocular' remarks like God speaks Armenian, Jesus was an Armenian, and Africans are a mix of Armenians and blacks). The only thing that I got out of Russell was that he believes Armenians to be native to the Armenian Highland/Anatolia/or whatever the heck you want to call it. This is not limited to us, se what Russel's tribesmen have done. You make up a fable, you tell a "lie", it goes around the globe a few million times, it come back to you, while, in the meantime you may have forgotten that you originated the fable, and you, once again begin to believe it as the "gospel truth". Do you want to hear more fables and "lies"? "We are the first Christians", "We are the world's brightest people". Even when the "world's dumbest people on both sides of our borders are sitting on 99% of our ancestral lands. Here is another fable- I AM THE EMPEROR OF CHINA, my name is MAO-MING-GONG-JIANG!!! Seriously. We need "others" to look from the outside, since we have been looking from the inside for so long. Masis is so breathtakingly beautiful viewed from Yerevan, but have you seen Masis up close from the inside? It is just a pile of ugly rocks, with furks and kurds milling around with their esheks! http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1173/136099...33bda1f.jpg?v=0 Of course! Not to forget the kayak of that idiot Noah! http://www.wildnatureimages.com/Jenny-Lake-Photos.htm Edited February 21, 2009 by Arpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) You shouldn't ask what Russell said, since he didn't even get to talk! You should ask what Vardan said, since he was the one doing all the talking. And what Vardan basically did was to accuse ===== The only thing that I got out of Russell was that he believes Armenians to be native to the Armenian Highland/Anatolia/or whatever the heck you want to call it. Btw, What is the name of that self appointed “historian” that is shoving the microphone in Russell’s nose, and what are his credentials? Is he the reincarnation and the alter ego of the below? Reading the below thread I came across the post by, the since banned member, on page 4. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=46...mp;hl=elephants Where is Hagarag? TashnagZinvor Vartan Mamikon(a chinese word for messanger)ian was a Mongol. As were many of his troops. He was never in the Byzantinian Army. The Byzantinian historian Srebro speaks of Vartan as "an assimilated western" and "a foreigner fighting for the cause of his enemy"...either way, modern day Armenian portrayals of Vartan show him in Armenian/Roman armour, which I doubt he had at the time. The Armenians were known to hire on Mongol and Turk warriors, who were said to be vicious fighters. Perhaps it was essentially the fall of the Armenians, due to overpopulation of Turkic and Mongolian types? I would say it makes perfect sence that Vartan would fight for the Armenians, the Mongols and Persians/Central Asian Turks(newly Muslim whod eventually assimilate into one another) were enemies. This post has been edited by TashnagZinvor: Dec 13 2003, 09:40 PM Aaah!! Our “historians” !!! And when, in another thread I had pointed out that during Vardananq Islam and Mohammed had not been born for another 200 years, he responded thus; Dear Arpa, OBVIOUSLY an Eastern Armenian, I was speaking of the Iranians who were muslim during the war of Avarayr, who were enemies of the Mongols and Central Asians. The legion of Tashnagtyutyamp was formed in 1920 during the time of Armenian-American co-operation to rebuild Armenia. Deals, which of coarse, widely focused on Western Armenia (Much larger than the Eastern half of caucasian Armenia). Edited February 22, 2009 by Arpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 ts a shame that fact is such an important issue, like our history is debated with this idiot in an idiot fashion, in coridors and around smoke full of room. vartananq che mi che .........he looks no different then russel shmake doesn't take much for one to put his/her own history together... in an absence of collective thinking and unity! this is what is reduced and that's tragic, to say the list. lets first figure out this hayastansi, beirutsi issue yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Het gna Hayastan, aydqan sirum es Hayastanid hogh@ yev atum Amerikayi "himar sistemin"! I'd like to see how long you'll survive in Armenia's system before you come running back with your tail between your legs to the US! haha very funny.... qo kartsiqovel menq ekelenq estegh dzer sistemai het hamakerpvelu Nairi jan? sxalvumes... ekelenq dzer Amerikayi unecvatsq@ grpelu, voncvor vor tesnumes Te parz chi erevum voncenq grpum, u tanum... amen inchnel amen dzevov vayelumenq qani vor goyucyun ka... dra hamarel dzer Amerikan hima depress vijaki mecha, mihat chors koghmt nayi qani hoqien gortsneric azatvel ecanomicait patjarov... shnorhakal khaytnes indz pes hayerin vor anush anush utumenq u vayelumem ays amen mi hajuyqner@... qani ka menq petqa vayelenq, che sistemai tak mtnenq u roboti nman aprenq... kvayelenq enqan inchqan vor petqa heto vor uzenanq lavel het kgnanq, duq cheq vor mez petqa aseq yerp yev vonc gnanq u ur gnanq... hamel mi jghaynaci, kyanqna etpes, ov ashxati ov uti... isk hima haskacar te inchienq es dzer anter mnacats yerkrum - lav imaci menq xopanchinerenq Amerikatel xopana, ov vonc kara petqa vayeli u vonc kara petqa grpi u tani! Halala mer hayerin vor nman patmucyunen grum es dzer yerkrum... Ha chmoranam asem, martkain pochn aynkan karje vor anhnarine teghavorel votneri aranqum, isk te du karoghes nman ban anel, chi nshankum vor bolors qez pesenq! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Het gna Hayastan, aydqan sirum es Hayastanid hogh@ yev atum Amerikayi "himar sistemin"! I'd like to see how long you'll survive in Armenia's system before you come running back with your tail between your legs to the US! haha very funny.... qo kartsiqovel menq ekelenq estegh dzer sistemai het hamakerpvelu Nairi jan? sxalvumes... ekelenq dzer Amerikayi unecvatsq@ grpelu, voncvor vor tesnumes Te parz chi erevum voncenq grpum, u tanum... amen inchnel amen dzevov vayelumenq qani vor goyucyun ka... dra hamarel dzer Amerikan hima depress vijaki mecha, mihat chors koghmt nayi qani hoqien gortsneric azatvel ecanomicait patjarov... shnorhakal khaytnes indz pes hayerin vor anush anush utumenq u vayelumem ays amen mi hajuyqner@... qani ka menq petqa vayelenq, che sistemai tak mtnenq u roboti nman aprenq... kvayelenq enqan inchqan vor petqa heto vor uzenanq lavel het kgnanq, duq cheq vor mez petqa aseq yerp yev vonc gnanq u ur gnanq... hamel mi jghaynaci, kyanqna etpes, ov ashxati ov uti... isk hima haskacar te inchienq es dzer anter mnacats yerkrum - lav imaci menq xopanchinerenq Amerikatel xopana, ov vonc kara petqa vayeli u vonc kara petqa grpi u tani! Halala mer hayerin vor nman patmucyunen grum es dzer yerkrum... Ha chmoranam asem, martkain pochn aynkan karje vor anhnarine teghavorel votneri aranqum, isk te du karoghes nman ban anel, chi nshankum vor bolors qez pesenq! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Nairi- n Amerika chi aproum. Ne Hollanda e kenoum. Let me rephrase Nairi's words; We did not invite you here! And, now that America/Western economy is going down the drain, i.e the streets are not paved in gold anymore. Are you ready to go back to Gavar and start a Chicken Farm, and for that matter, a "henhouse"? Which "fox" will be assigned to guard the henhouse? Որ աղուեսը պիտ նշանակուի հաւնոցի պահապան? Gor Hovannisian Արգելանոցի Պահապան? What an ESH!!! Shooting at a poor little animal, ԽԵՂՃ ԱՆԱՍՈՒՆ** , Don't make me cry with a high powered rifle! Someone should blow his brains out with the most recent high-tech 50 mm cannon!!! http://www.kirtland.af.mil/shared/media/ph...F-3341w-001.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArti...223&lng=eng **ԱԽ թէ միայն նա էլ ունենար վերջին նորոյթ զէնք եւ մեզ ասեր թէ որն է ԱՍՈՒՆ ը եւ որը ԱՆԱՍՈՒՆ: Edited February 22, 2009 by Arpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Sireliner, antsnakan viravoranqneru petq chika! M@nanq temayi nuytin metch. Shnorhakalutyun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Sireli Arpa jan... http://priroda.inc.ru/design/privet/baby.gif Gites che vor shatem sirum qo "sarcasm"... sakayn uzumem mech berem qaghaqneric durs gtnvogh geghacinerin vor aysorva orov ishxumen amenur, chkaskatseq vor yes gna Hayreniq tekuz mi rope kneghvem, dranum arxain egheq... Ayo patrastem gnal Gavar, sakayn havabunnern u gomer@ togh geghaciner@ tiren, yes aravel karoghem Hayreniqum... 2 hat tunem karucum entegh, arachin@ qaghaqi kentron, yerkrort@ abovya, paron tsarukyanin harevan, inch anem Amerikan bris tak @ngav vor grpem u Hayreniqum tun sarqem... mi guce yes miqich kopitem amen inchn asum bayc bolornen etpes anum... Thanks for clarifying where Nairi lives, it makes a hell lot of more sense now why she got pissed off when I said the Amerikan system is very stupid and idiotic... Also made sense where her hate comes towards the pride towards the Armenian Highland, Cradle of Civilization and her passion of calling it all anatolia... Nairi jan - http://priroda.inc.ru/design/privet/122.gif Stay to the topics which you know best calling the Armenian Highland - anatolia is the same as saying Yerevan is baku... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Ashot arants imanalu avelnort baner es xosum. If you thin Nairi or Arpa are any less Armenian than you you are very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 haha very funny.... qo kartsiqovel menq ekelenq estegh dzer sistemai het hamakerpvelu Nairi jan? sxalvumes... ekelenq dzer Amerikayi unecvatsq@ grpelu, voncvor vor tesnumes ............. Ashot, chei spasum qezanits. Asem vor grats@d hej sirum chi hnchum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 mi guce yes miqich kopitem amen inchn asum bayc bolornen etpes anum... Bolorn el et chen anum. Ays ashxarhum misht yeghel en u misht el kan mardiq vor talis en avelin qan te vertsnum. Es "sistem"@, inchpes vor du es asum, ka i shnorhiv ayn mardkants ovqer vor payqarel en irents amboghj kyanq@ vor bolor@ karoghanan azat apren. I shnorhiv ays "sistemi", yes inq@s karogh em ankax, azat aprel qo koxqin u qo nman "grpoxneri" koghqin, bayts yes inq@s kariq@ chunem "grpelu". Miayn Amerikayum yes karogh em im ashxatanqi qrtinqov normal kyanq unenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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