Vanes "The Nightmare" Martirosyan

[AVO]

here is the fight

 

 

pay attention on 19 second mark

 

longer version here (pre-fight commentary)

 

Edited December 26, 2007 by Avo47

[MosJan]

Wow Bravo !!! sirun er

 

 

de i nch Shnorhavor VAnesi MAyriki Taredarts@ !!!

[ED]

i like this kid, he fights with honour

 

 

[Ashot]

One of a kind, I love the way he fights!!! Pride of Armenia!

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Super-welterweight Vanes Martirosyan remains undefeated.

http://www.vanesboxing.com/fight18_vanes_martirosyan_vs_Clarence_Taylor.jpgUnbeaten Olympian super welterweight Vanes Martirosyan (18-0, 12 KOs) pounded out a six round unanimous nod over super tough Clarence "Sonny Bono" Taylor (12-13, 6 KOs). Martirosyan won with judges Lou Filipo, Max DeLuca and Marty Denkin awarding him scores of 60-54 on all cards.

 

 

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[Ashot]

 

Round 6

 

skzbits shat tapt@pvatsein krvum, heto lav sk@sets texnika tsutsadrel Vanes@

Vor uzuma lavel karuma, apri Halala!!!

[AVO]

LA Times run a story about the fight

 

Martirosyan scores impressive victory

Super-welterweight remains undefeated, but his trainer says there's work to be done.

By Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

January 5, 2008

Veteran boxing trainer Ronnie Shields has instructed multiple world champions, estimating the number to be 15. He predicts he's working with another champion in Glendale super-welterweight Vanes Martirosyan.

 

A 2004 U.S. Olympian, Martirosyan flashed the powerful, fast right hand and stiff jab Friday night that have Shields excited. Yet, in remaining unbeaten with a six-round unanimous decision over Clarence Taylor at the Alameda Swap Meet, Martirosyan (18-0, 12 knockouts) also showed that work remains before a belt can be claimed. "Vanes just needs to settle down a little more, like going to the body more against this guy," Shields said.

 

Martirosyan won with judges Lou Filipo, Max DeLuca and Marty Denkin awarding him scores of 60-54, but agreed he spent too much time attacking Taylor's "hard head."

 

Now training in Houston with Shields after parting with another respected veteran trainer, Freddie Roach, Martirosyan said any frustration he was feeling for failing to land a knockout against the overmatched Taylor (12-13) was lessened by the knowledge he'll have a busy schedule this year. He's scheduled to fight again in March.

 

The 21-year-old drew cheers from a crowd estimated to be 1,000 who attended the Telefutura-televised card inside a cold, tented ring. The conditions forced main-event fighter Dario Esalas to enter the ring wearing a thick sweater and featured steam coming off the fighters' bodies later in the evening.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition...3&cset=true

Edited January 7, 2008 by AVO

[Zartonk]

I met Vanes here 2 weeks ago guy, very cool guy.

[Ashot]

Not only cool, shat hamest yev xelatsi!!!

[Zartonk]

By cool I meant hamest...

[Ashot]

I knew that!

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

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Martirosyan Finds Focus in Houston td.yspwidearticlebody { font-size: 13.5px; }By Steve Kim/Maxboxing.com

January 11, 2008 Albert Hammond and Tony! Toni! Tone! were wrong, it does indeed rain in Southern California. And last Friday, on a wet, windy, cold evening underneath a much-too-small tent that was erected a night before at the Alameda Swap Meet in Los Angeles, a large throng of Armenian-Americans braved the elements to show their support of jr. middleweight prospect Vanes Martirosyan, who improved to 18-0 with a six round decision over journeyman Clarence Taylor.

 

Martirosyan wasn't even part of the Telefutura broadcast last week, but to these rabid partisans, he was their main event. And as their man did his thing, they vociferously showed their support throughout. As Terrell Owens would say - they love themselves some Vanes.

 

 

There are some notable fighters of Armenian descent today, from Arthur Abraham to Vic Darchinyan and many others who perform regularly in California. But it's evident that Martirosyan, who represented the United States in the 2004 Olympic Games, has an opportunity to become the first one to develop as a ticket seller and have some crossover appeal in the States.

 

But ironically, that same adulation he is showered with locally is the exact reason why he made the switch from training with Freddie Roach in Hollywood to Ronnie Shields in Houston, Texas.

 

"Freddie's a great coach, everybody knows that; I can't complain about Freddie and I'm not because I know he's a good coach. It was more about being focused and I needed a change because I wasn't feeling that my boxing skills were improving, and it had nothing to do with Freddie," Martirosyan would explain a few days after his latest fight. "I think it was more of me getting to it and learning. I told my uncle, 'I need to be more focused and we talked to Shelly (Finkel), and Shelly recommended Ronnie Shields and then we also had a talk with Freddie. Freddie recommended Ronnie Shields also, and for us to go over there. Freddie also agreed with us that I needed to be more focused and think about my boxing more and work on some new things and learn.

 

"So we all agreed, Ronnie Shields was the man for the job."

 

Martirosyan lived basically his whole life in Glendale, California, which has as large a concentration of Armenians as any city in the United States. Because of his boxing prowess, he had become a bit of a celebrity. And at times, the attention could be suffocating.

 

“Ever since going to the Olympics and stuff, everything happened so fast for me. Being young, being in that spot and now as a professional everything is growing day by day," he says. "When I go places, I don't want to go because I know there's going to be people there and they're going to want to talk to me and stuff like that. I mean, I love it. I love my fans, but sometimes you want to focus on your job and do what you have to do. It's kinda hard when people are always there talking to you, it gets you off your concentration of what you're doing."

 

Roach says he harbors no ill-will towards his former fighter, who he had trained from the beginning of his professional career in 2005.

 

"His family told me he had some personal problems and they gave me a little excuse why," he would say at his Wild Card Boxing Club on Wednesday afternoon. "If he had personal problems, why would that fix it by moving? I didn't really understand that."

 

Roach is irked by one thing, though. "Vanes never said bye to me, never said thank you, never said anything. I never spoke to Vanes. I know Shelly and Ronnie Shields are good friends and I don't know, is Shelly mad at me for losing Pacquiao or something?"

 

As he says this, Roach is laughing at the thought. But the respected cornerman never got the sense he had a distracted boxer on his hands.

 

"Never. Me and Vanes had a great relationship, I thought," he would say. "And he's very respectful and he works hard and I thought he was headed in the right direction. He was getting good sparring here with Roman Karmazin and guys like that."

 

But Roach is a veteran of the sport and he knows the nature of the business, so he's philosophical about the loss.

 

"Like Eddie Futch told me one time, 'Fighters will come and go, Freddie; don't let it bother you because you'll end up going crazy.'"

 

Having world-class fighters is not a worry for Roach, who currently works with perhaps as deep a roster of fighters as anyone in the sport. The problem for young fighters such as Martirosyan is that they can get lost in the mix when the likes of 'the Pac Man' and Bernard Hopkins prepare for big fights. At times, you can be like that guy in the bakery with ticket number 35, while ticket number 14 is being serviced.

 

For the most part, Martirosyan gets a monopoly on Shields, who also works with lightweight champion Juan Diaz.

 

"Ronnie's a type of trainer that gets with you from the beginning till the end," explains Martirosyan, who also lauds the work of conditioning coach Brian Caldwell. "Like when I walk in the gym, he doesn't work with anybody else until I'm done training. He stands with me side-by-side until I'm done and no matter how many times I make a mistake, he always repeats it until we get it right. And that's what I like about Ronnie."

 

It's in the formative years of a fighter where trainers are the most vital. It's at the early stages when they develop a ring identity and sharpen their tools. Fighters are also human, and if they feel they aren't given the proper amount of attention by an individual, they are prone to go to somebody else that will.

 

Roach believes that could be a possibility here.

 

“I’m thinking that a little bit. ‘Why didn't Vanes come and tell me himself' or just come to say good-bye to me? They told me he's temporarily going to Houston and he'll be back. But Ronnie's a good trainer and maybe he's going to get more attention there and maybe that's what he's looking for, more attention. But one thing about Vanes though, he got my attention. We worked pretty closely together and I was surprised but I wish him the best."

 

Going from Glendale to Houston is a bit of a culture shock. Lil’ Armenia it ain't.

 

"I think there's 200 Armenian families in Houston, if I'm not mistaken," says Martirosyan, who is staying with a family friend in H-town. But this is more training camp than residence. "It's good over there, the person I'm staying with, he told everybody I'm here for training, nothing else. I don't want to be seen anywhere or go out. That's all we're doing, we're just going to the gym, to the house, from the house, to the gym. That's all we're doing. It's been working out good for me. I'm staying focused and I'm thinking about my goals and my dreams and that's number one for me and there's no more distractions and no more pressure for me from anybody."

 

So far, the results have been good. In his debut with Shields, he would impressively stop Dan Wallace on December 20th as a swing bout on the 'Versus' network. While that bout went less than one full round, Taylor would extend Martirosyan the full six round distance. But it's clear that Martirosyan, for the first time as a pro, is setting and planting his feet and fighting much less like an amateur.

 

"The kid is a good puncher and if he sits down on his punches a little bit more, he'll have a lot more knockouts," said Shields shortly after their fight last Friday night. "But he gets a little anxious; I'm trying to slow him down just a little bit. It's coming around. He's starting to use his jab a little bit more. But it's going to come."

 

Taylor, the classic awkward spoiler, is the type of durable fighter every young prospect faces in the course of their development. Despite a rather pedestrian mark coming in (12-12-2), he's rarely stopped and he provides valuable experience. Outings such as these in the long run can be much more valuable than the highlight reel knockouts that grab people’s attention.

 

“You learn so much about them," says Shields of this type of performance. Martirosyan, for the most part, was patient and measured and tried his best to break through the high guard of Taylor, who also possessed a stout set of whiskers. "This is just my second fight with him and it lets me know a lot of what I got to do now with him. It's just the experience; he needs a little more experience but he's going to get it."

 

"He's not making the same mistakes he was before," says Finkel, who manages Martirosyan. "It's going to take a little time but I think he made big, big leaps in the last two fights."

 

To stay focused on this bout, instead of going back home to Glendale prior to the fight, he stayed at a hotel in Commerce to avoid any distractions. He says he plans on spending about 10 days back home before heading back out to Texas.

 

"He's a great student. He wants to learn," says Shields, who works with his new fighter at the Savannah Boxing Club. "But it's kinda hard when you have a 21-year old guy fighting in front of all these people that know your name."

 

Perhaps it's even harder to develop and improve when everyone is patting you on the back everyday, unconditionally. In Houston, he's just another guy trying to build a career. The change was needed.

 

"In retrospect, yes," agreed Finkel, who admits, "I would not have changed anything. But there was him getting stale there and some other things in his personal life and they felt it was just better to get new surroundings and it seems to have made him blossom."

 

Finkel, who lives in New York, never saw a problem.

 

"No, but I'm not there and the uncle and them did not tell me until it was, 'Hey, he's staying out late, he's this and that.' Its part of growing up, but it's hard when you're a fighter."

 

Martirosyan who seemed to have hit a plateau in his development throughout much of 2006 and 2007, could just be scratching the surface of his potential.

 

"I think so, I think there's a lot I could do and show in the ring. I just can't wait to show it. I tell my dad and uncle I want to fight somebody that has a name, somebody that could throw punches, fight me back, because I feel like the guys that I'm fighting now they're not doing that," says Martirosyan. "Top Rank knows that and they're stepping me up little by little. But I want to fight somebody that's going to fight me and throw punches so I can show the world what I can do."

 

Finkel is ready to step him up. "I think now he's on a track to move to the 10 rounders now, and he'll continue to just grow and if we're lucky, he'll be ready for a title shot," he says.

 

Shields simply says, "He's going to be champion of the world one day."

 

 

 

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

Zartonk jan, mer milionin lav knayek.

 

 

[Zartonk]

Arkhayin...

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

Vanes Stops Munoz In Three

 

 

 

...No such problems in the career of 21-year old Vanes "Nightmare" Martirosyan, as things are just getting started for the undefeated junior middleweight prospect and 2004 US Olympian. While the main event left the crowd booing throughout, Martirosyan gave 'em plenty of reason to cheer with a three-round beatdown of Michi Munoz in the televised co-feature.

 

The brash Armenian, now residing in Glendale, California, was on the attack early and often throughout, scoring three knockdowns in the brief yet punishing affair. A counter left hand put Munoz on the deck early in the opening round, drawing chants of "Va-Nes" from the crowd, which came alive anytime Martirosyan had his Mexican foe in any trouble.

 

Martirosyan remained on the attack in round two, landing several 1-2's upstairs while keeping Munoz within punching range throughout. Munoz managed to stay on his feet throughout the round, but was forced to take a knee midway through the third after taking one right hand too many. He beat referee Kenny Bayliss' mandatory eight count, but would've been better served to remain on the canvas. Martirosyan teed off on the Mexican before forcing him to a knee for the round's second knockdown, this time with Bayliss immediately waving off the bout.

 

The official time was 2:20 of round three.

 

Martirosyan improves to 19-0 (13KO), already registering his second win of 2008 and scheduled to return in late March. Munoz won't fight for a while, suffering a broken nose in addition to the first stoppage loss of his career, both of which earns him a trip to the medical suspension list. He falls to 20-2 (13KO) with the loss, snapping a three-fight win streak.

 

 

 

Holt Pays it Safe in Vegas; Martirosyan ShinesBy Jake Donovan

 

 

 

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[Aratta-Kingdom]

NEW SCHOOL PICK OF THE WEEK: VANES MARTIROSYAN

By Jake Donovan

 

BoxingScene.com, AR

Feb 7 2008

 

If there's anything worse than having a nightmare while sleeping,

it's living through one while you're awake.

 

Welcome to the world of anyone standing in the opposite corner of

undefeated junior middleweight Vanes "The Nightmare" Martirosyan.

 

It's been pure hell for each of Martirosyan's 18 opponents (and

counting) to date, as the transplanted Armenian has not lost a round,

never mind a fight, since turning pro in early 2005. That streak,

along with his winning ways (18-0, 12KO), both figure to continue

Thursday. On tap is once-beaten Midwestern junior middleweight Michi

Munoz, as Martirosyan is slated for his first scheduled ten-round

bout, which serves as the co-feature for the next installment of

VERSUS FIGHT NIGHT series.

 

The bad news gets worse for Munoz and all future opponents -

Martirosyan continues to improve with every fight. If there was a

single criticism to his game, it's that the Armenian all too often

sought the knockout without the benefit of a jab to set up his

attack. A typical Martirosyan fight went as follows: bell rings,

Vanes is in your face, launching power shots from all angles until

you either fall or have lost every round.

 

Not much has changed - well, two things to be exact. One is his

trainer. Having previously been shacked up with two-time Trainer

of the Year Freddie Roach, Martirosyan packed his bags late in 2007

and headed to Houston, where he now serves under the tutelage of the

well-respected Ronnie Shields.

 

The other change in his career: the kid now has a jab. You'll recognize

it quickly if you're his opponent: it's the long stick that's buried

in your face from the opening bell.

 

Though only 21 years old and still learning with each fight,

Martirosyan has already come a long way from his amateur days. Those

days began 14 years ago, when his father took him to the gym as a

7-year old living in heavily Armenian-populated Glendale, CA, where his

family moved from his native Armenia when he was just four years old.

 

The trip to the gym was a family affair, with his brothers (one

older, one younger) accompanying. All three took a liking to the

sweet science, but kids being kids, gravitated toward other sports as

well. His older brother eventually traded in his gloves for swimming

trunks, while baby bro turned to soccer. Vanes, who was home-schooled

throughout his childhood, took a liking to basketball, but his trainers

and father refused to stray from the ring, spotting something special

from the very beginning.

 

Their instincts were correct. Martirosyan led a brilliant amateur

career, going 120-10 in the non-pay ranks. All but one amateur loss

was eventually avenged, including a March 2004 win over Andre Berto.

 

The only one to go unchecked was in his final amateur fight, dropping

a decision to eventual Silver medalist Lorenzo Aragon in the second

round of the 2004 Olympics, where he represented the United States.

 

Aragon was a 30-year old, two-time amateur world champion at the time;

Martirosyan had just turned 18.

 

Simply put, experience prevailed over youth.

 

Turning pro in 2005, Martirosyan has been brought along at a steady

pace, while appearing on several networks in the preliminary stage

of his career. His first slice of limelight came in 2006, when Vanes

opened up a summer PPV telecast headlined by Oleg Maskaev's repeat

knockout win over Hasim Rahman. Martirosyan was riding a four-fight

knockout streak and had Marcus Brooks down and nearly out in the

opening round, but was forced to settle for a lopsided unanimous

decision.

 

The brash 6'0" junior middleweight has also managed face time on

Versus and Telefutura, though the lion's share of his bouts to date

have served as under card filler, mostly in Las Vegas. Whether or not

his fight makes its way to television is of little concern to the

Armenian; activity is far more important, or at least as important

as his pre-fight ritual, always putting on his right glove first.

 

It's a fitting superstition, as most of Martirosyan's fights end

courtesy of a big right hand. It's how his last televised fight came

to a close, with a fusillade of straight rights bombarding Dan Wallace

early and often before a final straight right sent him crashing to the

canvas. Wallace was left in a limp state, collapsing into the referee's

arm as the fight was waved off midway through the opening round.

 

What set up the right hands? A steady jab, with Vanes landing it the

moment he left his corner to begin the fight.

 

When Martirosyan isn't in your face, it's because he's taking a step

back to see where he can next land a shot. It can be a left hook to the

body, or a left hook upstairs. Quite often it's a 1-2 as he creeps back

inside to close the gap. It could also be a right uppercut from short

or long range, popping his opponent's head out of its protective shell

to set you up with a money shot, which these days could be any punch.

 

But it's not always about the power. Every so often, you run into

an opponent who refuses to go quietly. Martirosyan experienced that

in his last fight, just one month ago, when Clarence "Sonny Bono"

Taylor forced the Armenian to work every step of the way, even in

serving on the business end of a shutout. Martirosyan never wilted,

fighting fire with fire throughout on a cold and rainy night in Los

Angeles, even in realizing the night was not ending in a knockout.

 

Despite an influx of his fellow Armenians making the trip from Glendale

to cheer on their favorite son, Vanes remained poised beyond his 21

years, never feeling the need to try to do too much to impress the

crowd. Win today, look spectacular the next fight.

 

With each fight, Martirosyan becomes more and more of a complete

fighter, much to the delight of manager Shelly Finkel and promoter

Top Rank, both of whom have been with him since his pro debut. Both

have nothing but rave reviews for their star in the making, as his

consistent development becomes their dream come true. Though their

dream continues to serve as everyone else's nightmare.

 

Jake Donovan is a member of the Boxing Writers Association of America

and the Tennessee Boxing Advisory Board. His feature column runs every

Tuesday, and his Prospect of the Week series runs every Thursday. Jake

is also BoxingScene's official Telefutura correspondent.

 

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12476

 

 

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Vanes Martirosyan To Fight Angel Hernandez By Michael Doss

 

Unbeaten junior middleweight prospect Vanes Martirosyan will be in possibly his toughest test to date on March 28th when he faces former title challenger Angel Hernandez.

 

Martirosyan 19-0 has been on quite a roll in 2008, already scoring two wins, although against limited competition his performances have been mostly impressive.

 

Hernandez 28-6 has a huge edge in experience, being in the ring with the likes of J.C. Candelo, Kassim Ouma, Raymond Joval and Winky Wright, he is coming off of an upset over unbeaten prospect Louis Turner last October.

 

The fight will be the main event on Telefutura.

 

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[Vera]

Doesn't anyone think that it is a violent form of sports? Why do human beings have to break each others' noses? And more curiously, why are we supposed to be entertained by it?

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Welcome to HyeForum Vera jan.

 

It is a violent form of sport if you look at it from a side.

 

 

[Zartonk]

Doesn't anyone think that it is a violent form of sports? Why do human beings have to break each others' noses? And more curiously, why are we supposed to be entertained by it?

 

Because 'human being' is a relatively new name for 'another savage monkey'.

 

(Welcome Vera)

Edited March 9, 2008 by Zartonk

[AVO]

Human nature, we've been fighting each other since the beginning of the time.

[Vera]

I feel sorry for the people who find pleasure in these kind of sports... how disgusting that somebody should sit in front of TV and watch how two men are fighting and feel proud that a member of his club is the winner. I feel truely and honestly disgusted.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Don't get me wrong Vera jan, but I personally hate shopping. With the help of some women, I sometimes find it to be a pleasant experience. Qez yete mek@ karogana gravi ays ambogji mej aynqanov vor karoganas atletneri achqov ays ambogj@ verlutses, karogh e yev kartsiqd el poxvi...-because I know for a fact that boxing, and sport in general, isn't about pride or violence.

[AVO]

Vera jan maybe that means that we (humans) are moving away from being savage creatures. Well maybe some of us are, like yourself, but I still enjoy seeing Armenian fighters beating African Americans, Hispanics, Filipinos, Canadians etc.. Although I didn't enjoy watching Armenian boxer beating another Armenian, but that was a worthy fight for both of them.

[Vera]

I know for a fact that boxing, and sport in general, isn't about pride or violence.

 

How can you say such a thing? I think it is "pride or violence" and nothing but that. These people are actually hurting each other... and sometimes very badly, for NO REASON! What else is violence?