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OSKANIAN IS QUITTING. WHO’S COMING NEXT?

 

It is said that the life is a sequence of coincidences and random events, and it can be hardly explained by logical methods. However, this point of view is inappropriate for politics, moreover for the foreign policy of a state.

 

Tomorrow, as it came to be known, Foreign Minister of the Republic of Armenia Vardan Oskanian is to resign from his office.

 

Tomorrow Mr. Oskanian is not to be the Foreign Minister any longer, but today he is still the person responsible for the recent failures of our foreign policy, and he shall ever remain one of the greatest contributors of our achievements in that field. In any case, irrespective of the skills and the experience of the Foreign Minister, the weak positions of the Armenian diplomacy are rooted elsewhere.

 

It has been a long time that Armenia has needed a strong foreign policy, able to make bold and important moves, which were avoided equally by the President and the Foreign Minister. On the other hand a number of urgent and important issues can make halt any candidate on the way to the office of the Foreign Minister.

 

Particularly, after the passage of the Azerbaijani resolution at the UN General Assembly, Armenia has a serious problem with positioning itself in international organizations. In connection with this also the Armenian Foreign Ministry decided to take defensive positions, after having taken no action to prevent such developments. Armenia claimed that the resolution is just a consultative document that has no legal power and rejoiced with the number of vote abstentions, instead of having dissuaded those who voted for the resolution.

 

There was always dissatisfaction with the functioning of Armenian diplomatic representations in foreign states. After March 1 events the Foreign Ministry also revealed having some trouble with its staff.

 

Some more examples can be brought from the Artsax process and particularly from the sphere of Armenian Foreign Ministry’s relations with the mediating Minsk Group. The OSCE Minsk Group American Co-Chair Matthew Bryza, the husband of the head of Hudson Institute Eurasia Policy Department Zeyno Baran, is to be present to the inauguration ceremony of President-Elect Serge Sarkisian.

 

Taking into consideration only those circumstances, it is well enough to exclude the verbose, partial and senseless Co-Chairman from the Minsk Group. Taking into account also the fact that Bryza is trying to keep his image of a professional diplomat and pretend that his work is by no means associated with his private life at the same time when his wife is giving pro-Azerbaijani interviews and is warmly welcomed by Aliev, the silence of the Armenian Foreign Ministry is merely foolish, how complimentary our foreign policy be.

 

However, the era of complimentary policy shall possibly end with Oskanian’s era. We should probable become more enterprising, but with who – that is another question. Considering the currently pending candidatures for the ministerial chair, no hope of success occurs, unless, probably, Ambassador to France Edward Nalbandian becomes the Foreign Minister. On the other hand Nalbandian’s chanced are unfortunately rather modest.

 

 

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VARTAN OSKANIAN’S FAREWELL SPEECH TO MFA STAFF

 

I asked that you all gather here today so I can say thank you – to all of you: To the diplomats who have worked with me for these 10 years, and longer. To the technical staff who have made our work here and abroad possible. To our ambassadors who have worked hard, against great odds, to maximally promote our interests.

 

We can all be proud of our work, and we can all feel satisfied that we are performing a civic duty. We are all citizens of armenia – you by birth, I by choice. For me, the decision to pack up and return to Armenia after independence was a default decision, a non-decision, an obvious choice. Having come, I’m not now preparing to go.

 

I’ve been here since almost the beginning, working with you, to create something out of nothing, to build a new institution and a new kind of institution. I have served as Foreign Minister since the beginning of President Kocharian’s term. I had served as Deputy Minister and First Deputy Minister under President Ter Petrossian. In other words, I have served not a man, but a people and a country. Together, that’s what we have done since independence -- we have served the state, the Republic of Armenia. I am proud of the work we have done together.

 

During these 10 years, I believe much has changed in the nature of our work. Of course the Republic of Armenia has changed and progressed such that many objective conditions have changed – we don’t wait 2, 3, sometimes 5 months to get paid. We have paper on which to print treaties, conventions and documents. We are not hostage to irregular flights into and out of Armenia.

 

There are other differences, too. Diplomats, and all staff, are accepted solely on merit and not for any other reason. Diplomats are assigned postings solely based on professional circumstances and not for any other reason. This ministry has a reputation now for being the cleanest, the most professional, the best regulated, and not corrupt. And that’s no small reason to be proud.

 

This ministry is a place where people are treated with dignity, with respect and with tolerance. I’m proud of that and I believe that that tradition, once begun, cannot be easily undone. On the contrary, it becomes contagious. I believe that to build a democratic society, we must begin, and we have begun, by building a transparent, accountable ministry, and by treating each other with dignity.

 

The world has changed too in these 10 years. Russia is no longer in retreat. Europe is much closer than it used to be. The US is more insistent on having partners who are democratic. Azerbaijan is looking to oil for solutions to all problems. Turkey is living both in the past and in the future. Georgia is walking a fine line between beleaguered and bold. Iran is caught between the world’s perceptions and its own self-image.

 

And Armenia? Armenia has demonstrated that we understand that diplomacy and defense do not replace each other, but work in tandem to secure a nation’s future. Armenia has proven that economic growth is possible, even with the absence of natural resources and open transportation corridors. Armenia is living proof that one can be a respected member of the international community and at the same time swim against the global tide to assure self-determination and security for Nagorno Artsax. Armenia has become a trustworthy and I can say, full partner in international organizations with a full agenda of reforms, insights and action items. Armenia has established good relations with all major world centers – Russia, the Americas, Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.

 

But each of the successes I just mentioned have brought with it a set of new challenges and new problems. And that’s our job – to make the best of each opportunity and minimize all threats.

 

Now, we must perform our job in the changed environment of the last several months. When we allowed the political tensions and emotions of the election and post-election period to reign, they demonstrated that we sometimes imagine that revolution can be an alternative to reforms, and that revenge can take precedence over reconciliation. No one knows better than we in this building that that is false. No one knows better than we that our domestic strength, integrity, stability, morality and perseverance are our best – actually our only – calling cards in the international arena.

 

If those were our assets, today we work with a deficit. The capital we had accumulated internationally has been squandered. That means my successor, each of you, and all of us who live in Armenia, must work even harder to regain our respectability and our confidence in ourselves and our future.

 

I will continue to work with you. I don’t intend to terminate my public engagement, but to enter a new phase. I don’t intend to be foreign minister but I intend to work domestically to help the next minister to succeed internationally.

 

The weeks after March 1 were the most difficult of my entire career. On the one hand, I am part of an admininstration which, at the end of the day, is responsible for what happens in this country. On the other hand, from the beginning of their campaign, I disagreed, publicly and privately, with the tactics, methods and goals of the opposition.

 

Just as it is not in my nature to follow blindly, it is also not in my nature to be in bitter opposition. I believe in carrying out the responsibilities I have undertaken. I believe I have done so these 10 years, sometimes before the TV cameras but more often behind the scenes.

 

My commitment to Armenia and its future did not begin when I became foreign minister. It will not cease now that I am no longer foreign minister.

 

Instead, it will change. I will undertake a new set of responsibilities that will focus on fashioning a relevant, inclusive civic and political forum and that will work with the public and with the existing political forces on mending the torn fabric of our society, on finding genuine paths to political concensus by reconciling our differences, not suppressing them. I will partner with those who wish to create the mechanisms that replicate the experience of other developed countries and offer serious, convincing political alternatives that are not destructive, extreme and self-serving. Most of all, or first of all, I will work to strengthen the institutions which will decrease our people’s cynicism and readiness to believe the worst about ourselves, that will empower people to say what they believe and believe in what they say.

 

The work that you and I will do will be complementary. I feel a part of this family. And that’s not going to change. I would like it to remain that way, and I know it will be hard to pass by this building, or through Republic Square in general.

 

Thank you.

 

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Soon we'll find out. there are great expectations about Edward Nalbandian, ambassador of Armenia to France, this guy's credentials and intellectual abilities look quite impressive.

 

Armen Sarkisian, ex-UK ambassador, would also be great.

 

I just hope this important appointment would be free of "internal politics", or any quid-pro-quo considerations.

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How about another Kiliketsi- Marashtsi-Haleptsi-Amerikatsi like ME? :P

No! No!

I know I will be shot on the first day, as my "foot is bigger than my mouth", or, is it visa versa?.

You know that I would nuke and incinerate everything and every place between Marasah and Istanbul. :P :D :)

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I give my vote to Raffi Hovhannisian

 

 

Today Raffi Hovhannisian unfortunately is a "was", or a "could have been".

 

I don't understand what was he thinking giving his support to LTP. A neutrality would have given him some wiggle room to maneuver , but he completely burned his bridges. Maybe that says something about his political immaturity and it is good that he is out of the picture.

 

 

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Today Raffi Hovhannisian unfortunately is a "was", or a "could have been".

 

I don't understand what was he thinking giving his support to LTP. A neutrality would have given him some wiggle room to maneuver , but he completely burned his bridges. Maybe that says something about his political immaturity and it is good that he is out of the picture.

 

Yes he made a bad judgement call by supporting LTP. Indeed neutrality would have given him a room to maneuver. But I'm still convinced Raffi would make a great Foreign Minister. The people who support him are my main concern. If he can free himself from all the... ties, perhaps then he'll be able to make decisions... independently. Also, let's not forget the fact that we, the armenians, are too emotional people. He stood next to LTP and went against the ruling party because Sefilyan is still in prison.

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Azg daily reports

 

ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆԻ ԱՐՏԳՈՐԾՆԱԽԱՐԱՐ ԿՆՇԱՆԱԿՎԻ ԷԴՈՒԱՐԴ ՆԱԼԲԱՆԴՅԱՆԸ

 

Այս օրերին կառավարության նոր կազմի եւ նախարարների պորտֆելների բաժանման շուրջը կուլիսային լարված բանակցություններ են ընթանում, իսկ լրագրողներս փորձում ենք կանխատեսել, թե ով կզբաղեցնի այս կամ այն պաշտոնը: Նախարարության միակ թեկնածուն, որի նշանակման մասին կա քիչ թե շատ հավաստի տեղեկատվություն, արտաքին գործերի նոր նախարարն է: Ըստ հավաստի տեղեկությունների, ԱԳՆ-ն կղեկավարի Ֆրանսիայում Հայաստանի դեսպան Էդուարդ Նալբանդյանը:

 

Նա ծնվել է 1956-ին Երեւան քաղաքում: Ոսկե մեդալով ավարտել է Երեւանի Պուշկինի անվան N 8 ռուսական դպրոցը եւ ընդունվել է Մոսկվայի միջազգային հարաբերությունների պետական ինստիտուտ, որը ավարտել է 1978-ին: Ավելի ուշ սովորել եւ ավարտել է ԽՍՀՄ Գիտությունների ազգային ակադեմիայի արեւելագիտության ինստիտուտի ասպիրանտուրան, պաշտպանել գիտական թեզ եւ ստացել քաղաքական գիտությունների թեկնածուի գիտական աստիճան: Դիվանագիտական գործունեությամբ սկսել է զբաղվել ինստիտուտի ավարտից անմիջապես հետո: 1978-83-ին աշխատել է Լիբանանում, մի քանի տարի ԽՍՀՄ արտաքին գործերի նախարարությունում աշխատելուց հետո գործուղվել է Եգիպտոս, որտեղ մինչեւ 1992-ը եղել է սկզբում ԽՍՀՄ, ապա Ռուսաստանի դեսպանության խորհրդական: 1992-ից սկսել է արդեն աշխատել Հայաստանի ԱԳՆ-ում եւ նշանակվել է Եգիպտոսում Հայաստանի գործերի հավատարմատար, իսկ 1994-ից՝ այդ երկրում Հայաստանի դեսպան, միաժամանակ ներկայացնելով մեր երկրի շահերը Մարոկկոյում եւ Օմանում: 1999-ին Էդուարդ Նալբանդյանը նշանակվում է Ֆրանսիայում Հայաստանի արտակարգ եւ լիազոր դեսպան: Միաժամանակ Նալբանդյանը Հայաստանի շահերը սկսում է ներկայացնել նաեւ Իսրայելում (2000-ից), Վատիկանում (2001-ից), Անդորայում (2004-ից): 2001-ին նա արժանանում է Ֆրանսիայի Պատվո լեգեոնի ասպետի կոչման, նույն տարի նաեւ Հայաստանի Հանրապեության Մխիթար Գոշ մեդալին: Հայ-ֆրանսիական հարաբերություններում վերջին տարիներին նկատվող զարգացումները թե՛ քաղաքական եւ թե՛ տնտեսական ոլորտում շատերը կապում են հենց Նալբանդյանի անվան հետ: Հենց նրա ջանքերով նաեւ կյանքի կոչվեց Ֆրանսիայում Հայաստանի տարի անցկացնելու գաղափարը, որը շատերի կարծիքով հաջողված էր եւ էլ ավելի խորացրեց երկկողմ հարաբերությունները:

 

Էդուարդ Նալբանդյանը համարվում է Հայաստանի լավագույն դեսպաններից մեկը, թեեւ նշվում են նաեւ ղեկավարման նրա կոշտ մեթոդները: Իսկ թե ինչպիսի նախարար կլինի Նալբանդյանը եւ ամենակարեւորը՝ ինչպիսին կլինի Հայաստանի արտաքին քաղաքականությունը նրա ղեկավարման դեպքում, ցույց կտա ժամանակը:

 

http://www.azg.am/AR/2008041203

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Vartan Oskanian's farewell meeting with foreign Ambassadors

 

12.04.2008 12:54

 

On April 11 RA Acting Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian had a farewell meeting with foreign Ambassadors accredited in Armenia.

 

During the meeting Mr. Oskanian thanked the Ambassadors for interesting joint work and cooperation.

 

Mr. Oskanian addressed words of gratitude to the states the Ambassadors represent, noting that Armenia has always felt the support of those friendly countries throughout its independence.

 

For their part, the Ambassadors wished success to Mr. Oskanian in his further activity.

 

Public Radio of Armenia

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Yes he made a bad judgement call by supporting LTP. Indeed neutrality would have given him a room to maneuver. But I'm still convinced Raffi would make a great Foreign Minister. The people who support him are my main concern. If he can free himself from all the... ties, perhaps then he'll be able to make decisions... independently. Also, let's not forget the fact that we, the armenians, are too emotional people. He stood next to LTP and went against the ruling party because Sefilyan is still in prison.

 

He is not part of the avazakapetutyoun so it's out of question for him to join the new government. After all, his party is the only opposition in the parliament.

 

Anyone who does join will be tarnished. Why would you want to be part of the executive branch with an illegitimate president? Whatever the composition of the government, it will be short lived. I don't think they have enough resources to keep the country clamped down for too long. A basic thing - to keep all these police on the streets every day to prevent people from saying the 'wrong' things takes money (the most obvious is the gasoline for their cars or hiring cops to do actual cop work).

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He is not part of the avazakapetutyoun so it's out of question for him to join the new government. After all, his party is the only opposition in the parliament.

 

Anyone who does join will be tarnished. Why would you want to be part of the executive branch with an illegitimate president? Whatever the composition of the government, it will be short lived. I don't think they have enough resources to keep the country clamped down for too long. A basic thing - to keep all these police on the streets every day to prevent people from saying the 'wrong' things takes money (the most obvious is the gasoline for their cars or hiring cops to do actual cop work).

 

 

How is he the illegitimate president?

Levon is the 'legitimate' one? As he was back in 1996?

Or are you implying that SS rigged the votes back in February, while LTP had a clean election?

Both of them rigged the votes, and there was still a HUGE gap between how much votes they both received! This isn't Yankukovich vs Yushenko my friend!

The fact that they both rigged the elections and there was still a big gap between the two candidates, does not mean that LTP is the 'legitimate' leader!

I bet if LTP was the elected one, instead of 10,000 people, half of the country would have been marching in the streets of Yerevan against the election outcomes!

Do you really think that people would have accepted LTP as the president? Don't mind that 10,000 because that 10,000 represents a small portion of the country's population! There are more SS supporters than LTP supporters in Armenia, and no one can exclude the fact that the post-election marches would have been even bigger in numbers just in case if LTP took power again!

 

In case of Raffi Hovhanisian...isn't his nickname 'Agent Onik' or something similar to that? Do you really believe that Raffi H. does not have the same outside connections as LTP does in terms of who they are actually working for?

Vonts asumen...Levoni hay hay@ gnatsela menak vai vaina mnatsel!

I do not know about SS, since the time will tell, but Robert is more of a politician than Levon will ever be in terms of how the both conduct themselves.

 

I wanted to also comment on your 'avazakapetutun'....and LTP and his HHS gang were not taking part in any 'avazakapetutun'....did you ever live in Armenia during 1990s to even make that comment? Say thanks to LTP and his HHS for laying the foundations of that avazakapeututun first!

 

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Stop seeing people like Raffi as ultra nationalist who are there to fix Armenias problems...has he fixed anything major along with his Heritage party since he got seats in the Parliament? All his does is gets funding from the outside, whether its through the Diaspora or through some other channels for his 6 member party and his NGO...what major changes has he brought to Armenia? Stop viewing every diaspora Armenian that comes to Armenia to enter the political life as saviors or some one as a 'solution to Armenia's problems' type of person just because they got education in an Ivy League college and decided to go to Armenia!

 

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How is he the illegitimate president?

 

How do you know that SS is not the illegitimate president? Do you think he really got elected?

 

And yes, I have lived in Armenia through the war years and lost friends in the war so don't lecture me on those years. Besides, these are long gone days. I can tell you this though, LTP was a much more impressive politician than RK in person. RK couldn't even put two words together when I met him.

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How do you know that SS is not the illegitimate president? Do you think he really got elected?

 

And yes, I have lived in Armenia through the war years and lost friends in the war so don't lecture me on those years. Besides, these are long gone days. I can tell you this though, LTP was a much more impressive politician than RK in person. RK couldn't even put two words together when I met him.

 

 

If you mean that his Armenian might not be so perfect compared to that of LTP...you're right. Which Artsaxtsi Armenian spoke perfect Armenian in Artsax back then? They all knew more Russian than Armenian and that's because of political situation. Same goes for Javakh Armenians! I wouldn't even say that RK's Armenian is bad, but he does have a dialect and it's obvious why he would have the dialect! Not being able to put two words together as you would want him to, has nothing to do with how he rules the country! I've heard him speak just like everyone else and the only people who complain about his speech are the Artsaxtsi haters who always have to find stupid things to make fun of or say why he sucks!

I think he puts words together just fine.

 

I know that SS isn't the illegitimate president for the reasons I mentioned above...should I repeat them again? Because he won 53% of the votes! Because there's a huge gap between 23% and 53%! Both have rigged the votes and both ended up having a big gap between their votes at the end! Vortev LTP-i gnatsk@ hayastanum gnats 1998-in!

 

Like I said before...see if half of the country wouldn't have been marching on the streets if LTP won the election! Are you going to tell me that people would have not taken the streets the second that LTP was announced the winner of the election? Who was going to accept him as the president? Not most of the country! Those 10,000 do not represent he country! Just like the few hundred American-Armenians, mostly elderly who had nothing else to do with their day, so they had their little rally in LA few days ago if I remember correctly, stating that American-Armenians do not recognize the SS inauguration! Says who? Those few hundred people? Well they do not represent the American-Armenians! I'm tired of hearing how the minorities among ourseleves speak for all of us! Same thing in Armenia!

 

I also saw an interview on youtube of some man who was standing in front of the Armenian Embassy of Brussels, stating that the SS government is illegal and they are protesting in front of the Armenian Embassy because the European Armenians are against the presidency of SS! There were about 20 people standing!!! I guess certain people in our communities think that they represent all of us for some kind of a reason! That is definitely not the case!

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It’s been while since we have spoken about the pros and cons of unification of Artskh and Armenia.

Please allow me to repost the below article from this thread;

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=16...mp;#entry239567

"ONE TERRITORY, TWO COUNTRIES

DeFacto Agency

April 10 2008

Armenia

YEREVAN, 10.04.08. DE FACTO. On territory, two countries - that is

the formula the Nagorno-Artsax Republic President Bako Sahakian

determined in an interview with Polish "Rech Pospolita" newspaper

(21.03.08.), speaking of relations between the Nagorno-Artsax

and Armenia. Bako Sahakian underscored that integration between the

Nagorno-Artsax and Armenia deepened: "We are in a common economic

field. We have common currency, similar banking and custom systems.

We are quite integrated. And integration deepens year after year".

The NKR President noted the Artsax movement had started with the

idea of joining Armenia; however, later the Nagorno-Artsax had

chosen the path of independence. Answering a question what was the

difference between the RA and NKR, Bako Sahakian answered posing

another question: "What is the difference between Arabic countries,

or between Germany and Austria?"'

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So now we are back to dark days of the 1940s and 50s, the era of Aghber/Akhper/Aghper.

QUOTE (Nazarian @ Apr 12 2008, 09:57 PM) 

How do you know that SS is not the illegitimate president? Do you think he really got elected?

And yes, I have lived in Armenia through the war years and lost friends in the war so don't lecture me on those years. Besides, these are long gone days. I can tell you this though, LTP was a much more impressive politician than RK in person. RK couldn't even put two words together when I met him.

Elle-If you mean that his Armenian might not be so perfect compared to that of LTP...you're right. Which Artsaxtsi Armenian spoke perfect Armenian in Artsax back then? They all knew more Russian than Armenian and that's because of political situation. Same goes for Javakh Armenians! I wouldn't even say that RK's Armenian is bad, but he does have a dialect and it's obvious why he would have the dialect! Not being able to put two words together as you would want him to, has nothing to do with how he rules the country! I've heard him speak just like everyone else and the only people who complain about his speech are the Artsaxtsi haters who always have to find stupid things to make fun of or say why he sucks!

I think he puts words together just fine.

So, now we have come to the subject of dialects and accents!

(Those from Artsakh can speak asseri better than aliev).

Majority of Armenians , be they natives of Yerevan or Zimbabweian citizens would be so lucky to speak Armenian of any dialect and accent. How many American Armenians speak the language with or without an accent? How many French Armenian? How many Russian Armenians, Armenians from furkey?

Yet, day in and day out we talk about dual citizenship, repatriation and immigration. Do we know what we are talking about? If they cannot tolerate and Artsaktsi who speaks with an accent. Imagine the chaos, the "babeloni kharnakum" and the friction when a couple of million diasporans move to Armenia!! Imagine that these people will be from Syria, furkey, Iran, the US, France and ……Zimbabwe

Read the above article again and let us talk about unification or not of Yerevan and Stepanakert. Javakh, Nakhjavan, the Ararat Region etc….

What Armenia needs is people from all different cultures of the world, people who speak Russian, Persian, English, Chinese, Indian, Arabic, French and,… and…..yes, furkish can bring valuable contribution not only to the diplomatic corps but also to the literature and science, and to the overall culture.

How about those who speak, Aramazt mi arastse Gumretsi, Javakhetsi, Aparantsi, Gavaretsi, Loretsi, Meghretsi, Gorisetsi, Kanakertsi and bangladeshtsi dilects… :ap: :ap: :ap:

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Above I used two words

"tolerance", please search and find what has been said about the subject using "tolerance" or "tolrenas" as your keyword.

The other word was "hospitality".

To see how it applies to us, aside from the time we "tolerated" and "hospitalized" the furk.

Look here;

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13...;hl=hospitality

Are we still living in the days of Herdotus, when he said how "hospitable" the Armenians were?

Did he say who were "not hospitable"?

Did he know the old adage- "Ձուկը եւ հիւրը կը հոտին երէք օր վէրջ/Fish and guests smell after three days"?

Note; The Armenian word for "tolerance" is "handrzhum/հանդրժում". I'll let Ohannes nd SAS comment about it as I cannot find a logical explanation of its etymology.

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Nazarian,

 

I bet RK can speak 100 times better and proper Armenian than you ever will!

I have no idea what kind of speech of his you have heard before, but I've heard him speak and his proper Armenian is better than mine!

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Nazarian,

 

I bet RK can speak 100 times better and proper Armenian than you ever will!

I have no idea what kind of speech of his you have heard before, but I've heard him speak and his proper Armenian is better than mine!

 

elle, I am not talking about a speech; it was a conversation and it was a long time ago, in the early 90-s. And I am not talking about 'speaking Armenian', I am talking about 'speaking in general'.

 

I don't know why you are so proud that your language skills are inferior to his. I'm sure it's not true - do you not know words or expressions like 'klizma anel', 'akanjner qashel', 'moskaneri hachoc', 'paroghi dzver' and other timeless contributions that Kocharian has introduced into the everyday Armenian culture.

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