AVO Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 McCain made a stetment for Armenian-Americans. Something along the lines of I don't deny it but Turkey is a vital ally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 McCain made a stetment for Armenian-Americans. Something along the lines of I don't deny it but Turkey is a vital ally. Yeah that's right, here's the link to what he said http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_r...s.php?prid=1375 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Thanks AK I was too lazy to open my mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 US Azerbaijanis to support John McCain in presidential elections [ 04 Feb 2008 15:21 ] US Azeris Network (USAN) stated that they will support republican candidate John McCain in the presidential elections, APA’s US bureau reports. According to the USAN’s statement the organization brings together US Azerbaijanis and other Turkish-speaking American citizens. “400,000-men Azerbaijani community especially in California, New York, New Jersey and Texas and other Turkish-speaking communities intend to appear as a new force,” the statement says. USAN notes the candidate’s features, his experience in foreign policy and military sphere and legislative initiatives, and underlines that McCain is informed about the South Caucasus, Caspian basin and post Soviet countries, visited Turkey and Azerbaijan, prefers the principle of territorial integrity in Nagorno Karabakh problem and has unbiased position on the so-called Armenian genocide. Republican candidate also supports Azerbaijan’s integration into Euro-Atlantic space in terms of economy and security. Source: http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=43641 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Obama may have more delegates, but Clinton won more states than Obama. That's not a good indicator for Obama. She has a lead in all the major states according to the polls, even though he is closing the gap. I still don't understand why he performed so miserably in Michigan, given that it's not so far from his own state. This also isn't good news: With polls showing Obama making up a considerable amount of ground in key February 5 contests, there is a growing sense that he could pull off what was unthinkable just two or three weeks ago: grab more Feb. 5 delegates than Clinton. Heck, even win California. Well, the Obama campaign just released a memo to rein in such expectations. "Senator Clinton is certainly the favorite on February 5, given the huge leads she has held in many of these contests throughout the course of the campaign and the political, historical and geographic advantages she enjoys in many of these states," Obama manager David Plouffe said in the memo. "Based on her huge head start, Hillary Clinton should still win California, but is unlikely to achieve her goal of getting a sizeable share of the delegates." Plouffe continues, "Our path to the nomination never factored in a big day for us on February 5. Rather, we always planned to stay close enough in the delegate count so that we could proceed to individually focus on the states in the next set of contests. We fully expect Senator Clinton to earn more delegates on February 5th and also to win more states. If we were to be within 100 delegates on that day and win a number of states, we will have met our threshold for success and will be best positioned to win the nomination in the coming months." http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200.../04/636846.aspx It would be a pity if things don't turn out as he would have wished. He is a very likeable and eloquent guy and stands out from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Well just have to wait one more day to see what will happen... Tomorow is super Tuesday, so let's sit back relax and watch who beats who!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Senator Clinton pledges to recognize Genocide if elected Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), a cosponsor of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (S. Res. 106), urged Congress to adopt this critical human rights legislation, saying if elected president, she would speak candidly about the events of 1915. Clinton is the second presidential candidate, following Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), to issue a statement on the Armenian Genocide in the past week. She is currently the only presidential candidate to cosponsor the resolution. Clinton said she has twice written to President Bush urging him to properly characterize the crimes as genocide in his annual commemorative statement. "Our common morality and our nation's credibility as a voice for human rights challenge us to ensure that the Armenian Genocide be recognized and remembered by the Congress and the President of the United States," Clinton stated. "If the mass atrocities of the 20th Century have taught us anything it is that we must honestly look the facts of history in the face in order to learn their lessons, and ensure they will not happen again," she continued. "It is not just about the past, but about our future." Turning to the atrocities in Darfur, Clinton said that the U.S. "must close the gap between words and deeds" to prevent such modern-day crimes, adding, "As President, I will work to build and enhance U.S. and international capacity to act early and effectively to prevent mass atrocities." Clinton also pledged to improve U.S.-Armenia relations and address the issues facing the two nations including, increasing trade, fostering closer economic ties, fighting terrorism, strengthening democratic institutions, pursuing military partnership and deepening Armenia's cooperation with NATO. If elected, she would expand assistance programs to Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh, and increase cooperation on regional concerns, such as a fair and democratic resolution of the Karabakh conflict. "The Assembly thanks Senator Clinton for her longstanding support of the Armenian Genocide Resolution and for calling on Congress to adopt legislation properly recognizing the first genocide of the 20th century," said Executive Director Bryan Ardouny. "It is in the best interest of this country, and the entire global community, to remember the terrible lessons of 1915 and ensure they are never repeated." Public Radio of Armenia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zara Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Don't forget to vote tomorrow you guys. I know I won't. Edited February 5, 2008 by Zara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 you know you won't what? vote or forget to vote? lol I am not going to vote!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I am just surprised at you people thinking that Electoral College really is going to give a damn about who the people vote for... It's all up to them, therefore I am not voting, it's a waste of time - they allready know who the next president is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) We are talking as if the US presidential campaign is based on the AG. If a lost in space Martian would suddenly land on the Earth they may think so. However, those Martians may have meant to land on Yerevan, but having their GPS malfunctioned end up landing in Yuko/Yukatan. And, hailing a taxi hoping to have a Yeraz Van they get a Yota (Toyota) instead. They may have know where Ankara is, but Yerevan? Which of the candidates know where Yerevan is.? Which of them cares? Which of them know what an Armenian is? Is it a tribe of the Arkansans or the Arizonians? Once again. How about WE do it, rather than let Tom(Jefferson), Dick (Nixon) and Harry (Truman), and now Hill-Harry-Hillary from the mountains of hick**-ory do it? **Look up the meaning of “hick”. hick (hk) Informal n. A person regarded as gullible or provincial: "New Yorkers had a horrid way of making people feel like hicks" Louis Auchincloss. adj. Provincial; unsophisticated: a hick town. [After Hick, a nickname for Richard, from Middle English Hikke.] The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, In his latest commentary in the California Courier on Line Harut Sassunian laments the fact none of the republican candidates, John McKenian, Mitt Romnian or Mike Huckabian have notx acknowledged the AG while Hillary-ous** Clntonian and Barack Obamian have paid lip service. Do either of them know what an Armenian is? No, not a tribe of Arkansans, nor an African tribe. Harut forgets to mention that Hillary’s husband did also pay lip service, but when it came to reality he used his presidential power to abort the congressional debate (Speaker Dennis Hastert), and that McCane’s “spiritual father” Pres. Reagan did in fact use the G word even during his presidency (1981)… And… So… what??? Are we going to cast our American votes mainly based on the AG issue? How about those in Yerevan? Are they going to base their votes as to who, Serge or Levon simply on the AG issue? Or, do they have other burning issues? ** Should you need to know thw definition of "hilarious", look here; hi·lar·i·ous Pronunciation: \hi-ˈler-ē-əs, hī-\ Function: adjective Etymology: irregular from Latin hilarus, hilaris cheerful, from Greek hilaros Date: circa 1840 : marked by or causing hilarity : extremely funny — hi·lar·i·ous·ly adverb — hi·lar·i·ous·ness noun Edited February 5, 2008 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.com/ The only sensible candidate is Ron Paul. Too bad America is filled with mass minded idiocy. "We want change!" the masses proclaim. So they vote for 33-year Washington insider Hillary Clinton and 26-year Washington insider John McCain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zara Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.com/ The only sensible candidate is Ron Paul. Too bad America is filled with mass minded idiocy. "We want change!" the masses proclaim. So they vote for 33-year Washington insider Hillary Clinton and 26-year Washington insider John McCain. I don't like Ron Paul or any Democrats running this year (except maybe Edwards). Edited February 7, 2008 by Zara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elle Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.com/ The only sensible candidate is Ron Paul. Too bad America is filled with mass minded idiocy. "We want change!" the masses proclaim. So they vote for 33-year Washington insider Hillary Clinton and 26-year Washington insider John McCain. But please note that Ron Paul is agains any US recognition of the Genocide. He thinks that it will bring "chaos" if recognized. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Is this section in anyway out of the US Elections Is there anything in particular in this section? I mean do we discuss anything else besides the elections in here? Actually I think US Elections section should be renamed to US Elections 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Is this section in anyway out of the US Elections Is there anything in particular in this section? I mean do we discuss anything else besides the elections in here? Actually I think US Elections section should be renamed to US Elections 2008 I didn't see that. The moderators should feel free to merge this thread there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 only if it's renamed to US Elections 2008, for some reason I forgot to include the year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I don't like Ron Paul or any Democrats running this year (except maybe Edwards). Why don't you like Ron Paul? And what is so appealing about Edwards? Here is a guy that will continue the same Democrat economic ignorance - blaming the wealthy and corporations for our problems. A typical socialist in Democratic stripes. The economic ignorance of Democrats is even more appalling than the economic ignorance of the Republicans (except for Ron Paul). Besides, there you have a typical Democrat who like Obama, and Clinton (and the leading Republican candidates), sucked up to the Israelis and further propagated the mantra of how Iran "threatens" Israel. Boohoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) But please note that Ron Paul is agains any US recognition of the Genocide. He thinks that it will bring "chaos" if recognized. Whatever. Oh, wow as opposed to all the other candidates that blow hot air about making promises they can't keep about passing the Armenian genocide recognition? Let's get over it folks, the Armenian genocide issue is a dead issue, and now with the economic crisis, elections and war, it's even further back in the agenda of important things. As long as America maintains its relationship with Turkey and the vociferous Israeli lobby has a say in American policy, the Armenian genocide issue is a non-issue. And if that is how you assess your votes, you're better off not voting. This is about as depleted as those folks who vote for Clinton because she's the first woman, or blacks voting for Obama because he is black, or white people voting for Republicans because they want neither a woman nor a black person as president. Edited February 7, 2008 by Anonymouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Again I will say this - no matter who we choose, no matter who we vote for - Electoral College doesn't care... even if 60% of the poeple vote for let's say Clinton, and the Electoral College decides to go with McCain - they don't care what the people whant... it's their voice, their opinion, and their choice that counts!!! What's Electoral College? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elle Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Again I will say this - no matter who we choose, no matter who we vote for - Electoral College doesn't care... even if 60% of the poeple vote for let's say Clinton, and the Electoral College decides to go with McCain - they don't care what the people whant... it's their voice, their opinion, and their choice that counts!!! What's Electoral College? Isn't the American Democracy great! It's all done intentionally so that people think they're voting and participating in 'democracy" but the choice is left behind the closed doors where the candidates are actually appointed by interests of the elite or the "rulign class" rather than by vote. Edited February 7, 2008 by elle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Tell me about it Elle jan... I have always said it - there is a huge difference in presenting the same thing in Armenia and America Armenia - they come infront of you tell you to get naked because they are going to rape you America - they tell you to do whatever you want, eventually you find yourself naked and raped!!! Edited February 7, 2008 by Ashot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Tell me about it Elle jan... I have always said it - there is a huge difference in presenting the same thing in Armenia and America Armenia - they come infront of you tell you to get naked because they are going to rape you America - they tell you to do whatever you want, eventually you find yourself naked and raped!!! Lol. Ash, Ash.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Again I will say this - no matter who we choose, no matter who we vote for - Electoral College doesn't care... even if 60% of the poeple vote for let's say Clinton, and the Electoral College decides to go with McCain - they don't care what the people whant... it's their voice, their opinion, and their choice that counts!!! What's Electoral College? Isn't the American Democracy great! It's all done intentionally so that people think they're voting and participating in 'democracy" but the choice is left behind the closed doors where the candidates are actually appointed by interests of the elite or the "rulign class" rather than by vote. I think there is a misunderstanding. America was never designed to be a "democracy." That is just political double talk that came into the vernacular much later. The Constitution specifically prescribes a representative republic. The whole purpose of the college is to guard against mob rule of majorities. It's in keeping with the concept of federalism espoused by the framers, and the Constitution. There is no just cause to abolish such a system unless you want to establish what the framers specifically warned about and loathed - democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 here is another concept to think on - American constitution strongly believes in balance of power - therefore can you tell me please how many times have you see 4 terms of republican presidents? I don't know the history too much, but from what I understand each president sits for 2 terms and afterwards the oposition takes control for another 2 years... so if this year democrats win, I would not be surprised!!! balance of powers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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