_femme333_ Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Here is another armenian dance http://youtube.com/watch?v=iHOAFxmbqnI Try telling them that it's Armenian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Kenny G is fine But I personally call his music and most of contemporary jazz (smooth jazz) "lifti mej lselu erazhshtutyun" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Try telling them that it's Armenian! Try telling Armenians most its Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Try telling Armenians most its Armenian. Here is another one Actually this is Ossetian/Alani, or, in essence, old Iranian, which is, in essence, quite Armenian. Sound similar to ours? Of course. Do they know this? Of course not. Do we play the cultural diplomats? Of course not. We are too busy as a culture trying to be other cultures. Now this is no longer as true as it was 20 years ago, even 10 years ago. I see some good things happening these days, but it kind of hits a nerve in me when I see the old Otaramolakan Protagonistas rear their Otaramol heads again once in a while. The Otaramol Hoki still plays a major role in our cultural defeatism and indifference, which feeds directly into the dissipation of our much needed nationalism. We have in the past had the best of these things, the best. What a rich culture we were. All these cultures were either profoundly influenced by the Armenian, or they are ofshoots of the Armenian. What do we have now? Edited November 13, 2007 by hagopn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Kenny G is fine But I personally call his music and most of contemporary jazz (smooth jazz) "lifti mej lselu erazhshtutyun" Vorovhetev menak edqan karch zhamanak kareli a tanel...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_femme333_ Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Vorovhetev menak edqan karch zhamanak kareli a tanel...?? Im hamar vor ayo! Erbek Smooth jazz chsiretsi tents arandznapes. Mek-mek mi ban karoxa normal lini, te che tuila erajshtutun@. I much prefer Acid Jazz/underground jazz/chill over any of that Smooth jazz cr**! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Vorovhetev menak edqan karch zhamanak kareli a tanel...?? I don't know if you people have seen the Pixar movie "Cars." Kenny G is the one that puts the huge Mac truck to sleep Imagine what he can do for you. Perhaps Glaxo http://www.gsk.com/ should market it-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I don't know if you people have seen the Pixar movie "Cars." Kenny G is the one that puts the huge Mac truck to sleep Imagine what he can do for you. Perhaps Glaxo http://www.gsk.com/ should market it-- if he can put my daughters to sleep i'll buy his CD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_femme333_ Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) http://youtube.com/watch?v=csFA0sFGqZM I've always loved them.......doesn't matter how old these songs are. I think I'll still be listening to them in my 80's and still won't get enough of it. Edited November 13, 2007 by _femme333_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_femme333_ Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Their songs always remind me of Spain, especially my time in southern Spain...in Andalucia. I have my eye on one of the lead singers too.....he's in this clip wearing a red shirt. His voice is so sexy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 They know how to sell culture, even ours, as theirs. What do we do? We praise lounge singers and elevate them to "national cultural icon" status. Sayat-Nova was "their" bard, Parajanov was "their" filmmaker. And they are adamant about it. Armenians take a more "Que sera, sera" approach to the Caucasus culture wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Sayat-Nova was "their" bard, Parajanov was "their" filmmaker. And they are adamant about it. Armenians take a more "Que sera, sera" approach to the Caucasus culture wars. You're right. "Que sera sera" -- it's scary though, since their militant claimsmanship is taken seriously by all of their elite and institutions, while our sheep financial and political "elite" and "academics" either don't know about such things or don't care. Here is Que Sera Sera for you --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WDdZ6xaPg Nice waltz (a.k.a. Ավստրիական Նազ Պար) I remember from childhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 You're right. "Que sera sera" -- it's scary though, since their militant claimsmanship is taken seriously by all of their elite and institutions, while our sheep financial and political "elite" and "academics" either don't know about such things or don't care. Two of the recent "arts and culture" cover pages of the Armenian Reporter have included Hye Dghek and Armenchik. These seem to be Armenia's cultural exports today. What do you think of Traditional Crossroads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Two of the recent "arts and culture" cover pages of the Armenian Reporter have included Hye Dghek and Armenchik. These seem to be Armenia's cultural exports today. What do you think of Traditional Crossroads? I like all of it--- Mustafa Kandirali is particularly interesting since he's living proof that so-called "Turkish Ciftatelli" is actualy Romani (or as the Turkish racist pejorative "Jingana," "Bosha" or the Greek "Yifty") in origin. The Romani are an Indo-European people, by the way, which apparently makes them natives of Asia Minor along with us (yes, the Hatti/Hittites were us. I can get you quotes from dozens of non-Armenian scholars that say this). Karine Hovhannisyan is really good. I have this album, and she is really, really good. Gevorg, well, his family is a talented one, and hiw nephew Gurgen (too bad he apparently ruined his voice, according to rumors anyway) was a fine child protege for a while there. Gevorg also worked with Yoyo Ma for a while on at least one project and tour. I didn't follow it to see its success or not. Shoghaken Ensemble: These guys are good, with Gevorg as the lead man. They have a very standard repertiore, but also some stuff not performed before. Really, some good things are happening these days. Armenians are beginning to wake up, although much more slowly than I would prefer. Now, the old is being revived in a fresh, well-recorded fashion, which is also now marketed to the world. The next step? Develop it further. Begin to create. The Arshakyan "twins" ( ) are doing that now. Others are going even more into the traditional and are doing the right thing by bypassing the Soviet mold and reinterpreting them as the bucolic material they are. I see many good possibilities these days. Heck, I'm finally beginning to feel like playing and working myself--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Check the Cascade Trio's video, but especially check the comments. I liked the ones from a fan in Barcelona (!!!) and another from Russia. muy buena cancion! en barcelona seguimos esperando sus CD! very nice song! in barcelona we wait them CD! Russia and Armenia friends for ever! **** nazis in Russia!! Russia not hate Armenia, but in Moscow there are ****NG nazis.. **** FACISM. Russia love Armenia! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEt4rPxhd-0 Good music and culture has an effect on politics I tell you-- If they love us, they will recognize the G in no time flat. I guarantee it!--- (Only half jokingly of course. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Oh, oh, this isn't bad either Zulal is getting better as time passes. They're getting better and better. GOOD! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 She's got potential, Araxik. I personally like her, but she still suffers from a bit of stage fright--- as we found when we had to chase her through a song at the Bowl--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyVlmBJde9k Seriously, though, given the chance and the right coaching, she will shine. She has the heart in the right place and does have a nice voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Sayat-Nova was "their" bard, Parajanov was "their" filmmaker. And they are adamant about it. Armenians take a more "Que sera, sera" approach to the Caucasus culture wars. Don't remind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 DATEVIK HOVANESIAN TO PARTAKE IN ANNUAL FESTIVAL [11:03 pm] 12 November, 2007 The annual international festival CITYJAZZ is scheduled from November 29 till December 2 in Moscow and St.Petersburg. The event is organized by «ArtMania» agency. Every CITYJAZZ festival is a significant event both for musicians and for the audience. For the public this festival is an opportunity not only to meet real jazz and world music stars, but also a chance to see brand new band and to understand modern trends in music. And for musicians – festival participants - festival stage is a place for energetic improvisations and driving jam-sessions. People who organize CITYJAZZ festival have the enthusiasm of the first man on the moon and we are glad to present musical projects many of which are «first time in Russia» shows. Three nights in Moscow and one night in St. Petersburg will be dedicated to jazz and world music performed by real stars! The festival will feature Datevik Hovanesian /USA/, Ivan Smirnov /Russia/ Avishai Cohen Trio /Israel/. Datevik Hovanesian and her Trio (USA) Datevik Hovanesian - «the Queen» of soviet time jazz, “Russia Ella Fitzerald”- and today she remains one of the brightest stars in jazz mainstream. In her creative work one can find a lot of elements of Armenian folk music. Datevik Hovanesian performed in America, Europe, Australia. Lincoln Center and Carnegie Hall greeted her gigs with astonishing applauses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagopn Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 DATEVIK HOVANESIAN TO PARTAKE IN ANNUAL FESTIVAL [11:03 pm] 12 November, 2007 The annual international festival CITYJAZZ is scheduled from November 29 till December 2 in Moscow and St.Petersburg. The event is organized by «ArtMania» agency. Every CITYJAZZ festival is a significant event both for musicians and for the audience. For the public this festival is an opportunity not only to meet real jazz and world music stars, but also a chance to see brand new band and to understand modern trends in music. And for musicians – festival participants - festival stage is a place for energetic improvisations and driving jam-sessions. People who organize CITYJAZZ festival have the enthusiasm of the first man on the moon and we are glad to present musical projects many of which are «first time in Russia» shows. Three nights in Moscow and one night in St. Petersburg will be dedicated to jazz and world music performed by real stars! The festival will feature Datevik Hovanesian /USA/, Ivan Smirnov /Russia/ Avishai Cohen Trio /Israel/. Datevik Hovanesian and her Trio (USA) Datevik Hovanesian - «the Queen» of soviet time jazz, “Russia Ella Fitzerald”- and today she remains one of the brightest stars in jazz mainstream. In her creative work one can find a lot of elements of Armenian folk music. Datevik Hovanesian performed in America, Europe, Australia. Lincoln Center and Carnegie Hall greeted her gigs with astonishing applauses. Oh, so now she represents the "USA". How fitting. It's actually better that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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