GevorgP Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) Turkey is attempting to disrupt Genocide recognition process. Several years ago Turkey, perhaps, through establishing diplomatic relations with Armenia, could slow down the genocide recognition process. In past they had the best "know-how" and "new" technologies in the diplomatic and population reproduction "Industries". Although the "products" have not been of decent quality, they succeeded, at occupying countries, using the "competitive advantages". At that point they thought Turkey can prevent Genocide recognition process even without easing down, a little bit, the pressure exerted on RoA. The hatred against Armenians prevented them to set the "diplomatic trap" for RoA; which could assist them to declare that the Genocide issue is a Turkey – Armenia bilateral problem and only the two countries should discuss and "settle" it during coming "centuries". And it could enable US president Bush to prevent the Genocide recognition by USA using the "strong" argument against the US democrats, who does not uphold Turkey strategic interests at any cost to USA. Now, this is probably first time, Turkey suffered a prominent crackdown in diplomatic area and therefore needs to change the planned tactics. Therefore they are going quickly establish diplomatic or some other contacts with RoA, to prevent the impending danger of the Genocide recognition by USA. This week Armenian mass media is repeatedly showing interviews of the Turkish and Armenian representatives: businessman and political analysts. Who, urged by US Republicans, are talking about quickly opening Turkey-Armenian border, establishing joint trade zones and therefore forming a Turkish-Armenian state commission to organize it. Later on they will claim that the Genocide issue should be discussed by the commission, even if it was not, originally, included in the commission's agenda. So Turks need to have the commission to be formed and functioning before the bill is accepted by USA. This is why RoA must do its best to reject establishing any Armenia-Turkey joint commission, until the Genocide bill is accepted by USA. Dear Forum Members, What do you think about this? Regards, GevorgP Edited January 17, 2007 by GevorgP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lev7 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 too late for Turkey to do anything, wheels are in motion already I think by now every Armenian knows the back-stabbing colors of Turks, so I hightly doubt Armenia will establish any relations with Turkey until the Genocide issue is settled, it concerns our security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GevorgP Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) Never believe that Turks are sincere in their condolences on Hrant Dink's murder. It is just a Show, for the European audience. Are you surprised watching on TV people marching and chanting that they all are "Hrant Dink"? Taking into account that majority of meeting participant are the Turks, one can think that the people, who consider them barbarians, are wrong and that Turkey, in "fact", is a "democratic" country. Naive Europeans and others, may be shocked by the humanistic behavior demonstrated by Turks; Armenians taking part in the meetings are minority. Because in past Turks managed to "resolve" the Armenian question. The Europeans don't know what the mullahs called the Turkish believers to do, throughout the country's mosques, the day before. You know that Islamic countries, in fact are ruled by their religious leaders. The politicians and religious leaders are coordinating their activities, while deciding how the major problems should be addressed, at any critical situation for the country. So the day before, the mass meetings took place in Turkey, for sure, the mullahs throughout the country called the believers to organize mass meetings condemning Hrant Dink's murder and chanting "we all are Dink, we are Armenians" because it is needed to improve Turkey's International image. I've seen by TV the meetings where some people, I guess mullahs, next to the columns of the meeting participants coordinated their behavior, controlling people. Tomorrow the same people, if called by their leaders, will kill all remaining Armenians and others. The order will be carried out without any hesitation; and with the same diligence, as chanting "we all are Hrant Dink". Muslim religion and democracy are not compatible; therefore one can never expect, that in near future Turkey will share the European democratic values. I'm confident, that the "Mass Meetings" are "shows", "performances" directed by Turkey rulers for the European audience and the rest of civilized world. If Turkey would manage to improve, a little bit, its bad image, through the "shows" above and other PR activities, and "ensure" the world that they are becoming democrats; then, in future, they will turn to their natural "bloody" theatrical, dramatic performances. Don't forget that in past Ataturk managed to ensure Lenin that Turkey will become a communist country. GevorgP Edited January 22, 2007 by GevorgP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) Don't forget that in past Ataturk managed to ensure Lenin that Turkey will become a communist country. Bloody intelligent, isnt him? If you dont believe sincerity of Turks. Why should turks become sincere to you? It will only meet more enemity. Also, not all people at march is religious. Infact majority of them is leftist. Edited January 23, 2007 by Sip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GevorgP Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) Turkey "tolerates" historical Christian monuments – churches but; without their crosses. Turkey's last move to show up the naive Christian democracies worldwide that now they become "civilized" proponents of inter-religious tolerance. Sure they are; but with a "small" exception, Turks think that the churches like Christians/Armenians are safe without their "parts" at the top; that is, as usual, Turks can tolerate only decapitated ones. Turks renovated historical Akhtamar 'Sacred Cross" Armenian-Christian Church except the cross at the top; ensuring that in near future, nothing will prevent them to convert it to mosque, as they have done with hundreds of Western Armenia churches. Therefore: RoA delegation must reject Turkey's invitation to take part at the opening ceremony of the Akhtamar 'Sacred Cross" (Surb Khach) Church; because without the cross it is not historical Armenian Church; it is a "poor" candidate of another mosque. Regards, GevorgP Edited March 24, 2007 by GevorgP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Bloody intelligent, isnt him? If you dont believe sincerity of Turks. Why should turks become sincere to you? It will only meet more enemity. Also, not all people at march is religious. Infact majority of them is leftist. Turkey should start by being sincere to itself, and maybe then it would cease being obsessed with Armenia and Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 hey, we are not only obsessed with armenia. But kurdistan, greece, USA or a lot other countries too. Thanks to our leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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