Literature Nobel Prize

[Aaron]

Look anywhere on the web for the winner of the literature Nobel prize ... it's Orhan Pamuk from Turkey!

 

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[Arpa]

Look anywhere on the web for the winner of the literature Nobel prize ... it's Orhan Pamuk from Turkey!

 

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Yes.

Thanks, but no thanks to the Armenian media.

We will (not) wait with abated breath to see when our own literary geniuses, the likes of Ara B (bokhji-oghlu-ian)and Vahe Avet.. (avaanakian), who lives in the suburbs of Nobel country will be nominated for the prize.

Please ring NO BELLS!!

Edited October 12, 2006 by Arpa

[vava]

Yes.

Thanks, but no thanks to the Armenian media.

We will (not) wait with abated breath to see when our own literary geniuses, the likes of Ara B (bokhji-oghlu-ian)and Vahe Avet.. (avaanakian), who lives in the suburbs of Nobel country will be nominated for the prize.

Please ring NO BELLS!!

 

Arpa - your post is unneccessary, and quite frankly not worthy of someone who is supposed to have a mature & educated outlook on world affairs. What is your purpose in attacking Ara and/or Vahe? Fun? What's the point?

 

Really, without prejudice Arpa jan, it makes you look like a schoolyard bully who belittles others solely to make himself feel better. It's not fitting of you.

[MosJan]

PAMUK GOT NOBEL PRIZE

 

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Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk, 54, became a laureate of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2006. He was awarded for «the search for the soul of its melancholic town» of Istanbul, says a press release of Nobel Committee. Pamuk has written several novels, which have become international bestsellers – Black Book, My Name is Red, White Fortress, Snow, as well as Istanbul – a book of memoirs. The ceremony of awarding the golden medal, a diploma of the Swedish Royal Academy and a check for 10 million Swedish crowns ($1.37 million or 1.07 million Euros) will take place in Stockholm December 10, 2006. The rules of the Swedish Royal Academy prohibit mentioning names of potential owners of the Nobel Prize not only in the press, but also in private conversations, reports Lenta.ru. A criminal case was instituted against Orhan Pamuk in Turkey on indictment of «morally damaging, insulting, diminishing the dignity of the Turkish nation and making false accusations against it.» His statement on the Armenian Genocide was the cause for that.

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[kakachik77]

I just read an email from Columbia University President Bollinger that Pamuk also got a permanent position at the Middle Eastern Languages Department...so he is moving to New York !

[nairi]

I don't think he deserved it. If they are going to pick a political writer as well as a good writer, they should have gone for Nazim Hikmet when they could have. Otherwise, winning a Nobel Prize for Literature is becoming increasingly easier. All you need to do is shout: "Down with the government/establishment," package it in bad prose or poetry, get persecuted by your government or people for it, and there's your Nobel Prize for you.

 

I was also annoyed at the Swedish announcer's dishonesty and complete misinformation. I believe he said something like: "We picked Pamuk because he is the first to combine Western literary tradition and Eastern literary tradition."

 

This Swede should try to go back a century and a half or so. Most of our authors, especially at the turn of the 20th century, have done exactly that: mix East and West. Nothing innovative, therefore.

 

Ara and Vahe won't even be able to run for one, since they don't write fiction.

[Boghos]

Who deserves a Nobel prize? I am not sure that this is a relevant question.

I think Orhan Pamuk writes well, politics or not. One can argue for example that Latin America is under-represented, or whether Harold Pinter realy deserved it and why there are very few Asian winners, or why a Stalinist like Haldor Laxness was awarded one. But that is useless. Prizes, medals, titles are just that. The tendency to attribute any relevance to these comes for the idea that literature can change the world and such. Utter nonsense.

[nairi]

The tendency to attribute any relevance to these comes for the idea that literature can change the world and such. Utter nonsense.

 

Exactly. Therefore, if we are going to have silly prizes like these, then let's at least concentrate on the artistic output of the author, and not his political position in society.

 

Someone like Pamuk, btw, only became controversial during an INTERVIEW, and not in his books. Which goes to show that nowadays you don't even need to write a book to win a Nobel Prize... Yes, I would feel rather insulted if I were ever to write a book and receive a NP for it. Though I could use the cash.. but that's a different story.

[Boghos]

"Someone like Pamuk, btw, only became controversial during an INTERVIEW, and not in his books."

 

True.

 

Pamuk is one of many good writers around the world.

 

Look, if people can sit around and decide whomever deserves this or that prize, why don´t we create our own prize? We can call it the Hyeforum Prize for Literature awarded when never we feel like it using any criteria we feel adequate . The first one nominated and according to me first winner of the prize is:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raffi

 

So, you can choose the second, third or how many you want, dear nairi.

Edited October 13, 2006 by Boghos

[nairi]

Hagop Baronian

Krikor Zohrab

Daniel Varoujan

Gostan Zarian

Zabelle Yessayan

 

to name just a few.

 

And if Pamuk is one of the best contemporary authors, then our worldwide artistic output is quite sad.

[Boghos]

Yervant Odian

 

Let Pamuk sell more books. He is already popular in the "East meets West" and "fresh new perspectives" crowd in the US. His translations sell well at Amazon...whatever.

[DominO123]

Hagop Baronian

Krikor Zohrab

Daniel Varoujan

Gostan Zarian

Zabelle Yessayan

 

to name just a few.

 

And if Pamuk is one of the best contemporary authors, then our worldwide artistic output is quite sad.

 

Come on Nairi, it's not like the first time a nobel prize will cause controversy, in scientific field there are controversy's as to whom would recieve a Nobel, and those fields are supposed to be more open to objective judgement, what do you expect for literature? Hyeforum Prize for Literature awarded to Bedros Tourian. I don't know much of Armenian literature, but I know that I haven't heard anything similar in every languages combined(which I understand of course, which is few) as what this man has produced as poems. Others production seems like stupid kid childishtic poems when compared.

Edited October 13, 2006 by QueBeceR

[nairi]

It's only controversial because it's a political move. The Swedish Academy is dishonest when they say they picked a writer because they found him or her artistically appealing. It is not art that is being judged, but political impact. Which basically means that for someone living in Holland, it's going to be much harder to receive a Nobel than it is for someone in Turkey or North Korea. In other words: there is not debate about who writes well, but about who can throw their countries upside down, and that's not very hard to do in a country where freedom of speech is limited.

 

And no, I have not taken the Nobel Prize, or any other Prize, seriously for a very long time. I shall not be fooled.

[Boghos]

It is not art that is being judged, but political impact. Which basically means that for someone living in Holland, it's going to be much harder to receive a Nobel than it is for someone in Turkey or North Korea.

 

Now I see your agenda...

[gamavor]

I saw his interview yesterday on PBS. Honestly, I was not impresed at all. I don't know if anyone watched it, but it seems to me that his ideas and liberal approach to life is limited to what the western standart is. For that matter he is more preocupied with bringing the turkish intelectual life in line with the West. He talks and acts as if he realizes the burden of being born a Turk. Pretty sad.