shushan-tsaxik Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hey you guys, im new to this site, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the hye mer. yea its sorta a disgrace that i don't know... BUT IM WILLING TO LEARN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Hello Shushan, Welcome! Hayr mer vor hergeens yes; soorb yeghitsee anoon ko. Yegetse arkayutyoon ko; yeghitsee gamk ko vorbes hergeenes yev hergree. Uz hats mer hanapazort door mez aysor. (yev) Togh mez uzbardees mer, vorbes yev menk toghoomk meronts bardabanats. Yev mi daneer uzmez ee portsootyoon; ayl purgya (uz mez) ee chare. (the Priest) Zee ko eh arkayootyoon yev zorootyoon yev park haveedyans.Amen. Once again, Welcome to HyeForum! Edited April 25, 2006 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 You messed up my favorite part! yev park haveedyans havitenits, Amen! Of course that's my favorite line because it reminds me of these. I basically say it to myself like this: "Hav e danes, havi denits" (chicken in my house from the chicken house). Welcome to the forum Shushan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ha! My uncle used to make the same joke when we were little Thanks for reminding me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Hey you guys, im new to this site, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the hye mer. yea its sorta a disgrace that i don't know... BUT IM WILLING TO LEARN Welcome indeed Shushan. :) The way you spell “Hye-Mer” may be a coincidence but it is reassuring when many of us aver that God is Armenian. :) Of course, we know that the correct spelling is Hyer/Hyre/Hayr Mer, i.e Our Father. Hayr mer vor hergeens yes; soorb yeghitsee anoon ko. Yegetse arkayutyoon ko; yeghitsee gamk ko vorbes hergeenes yev hergree. Uz hats mer hanapazort door mez aysor. (yev) Togh mez uzbardees mer, vorbes yev menk toghoomk meronts bardabanats. Yev mi daneer uzmez ee portsootyoon; ayl purgya (uz mez) ee chare Zartonk, thank you for the above. Please allow me to point out a couple of points that are quite common. As you can see below, those who can see the ArmText, that “yegestse” has an S before the T, and “yeghitsin” has a final N to pluralize the verb as the following noun “gamq” is the plural of “gam/will” Hi Gamavor! , And finally, “meronts” is in fact “merots” without the N. Which brins to mind one other common slip that when we were young we would recite that phrase “toghoumq merots” as “toghouts merots” probably because it kind of rhymes, yet also because many would recite it in that fashion. Also, in congregations other that the Orthodox, the last line is not an exclusive property of the clergy, it is recited by the congregation as well. Below three versions of the Armenian Lord’s Prayer. Also, click on the site and observe it in many languages. I found the Turkish version hilarious, to say the least. http://wikisource.org/wiki/%D5%80%D5%A1%D5...yer_in_Armenian Armenian [edit] Classical Armenian Հայր մեր որ յերկինս ես, սուրբ եղիցի անուն քո։ Եկեսցէ արքայութիւն քո։ Եղիցին կամք քո որպէս յերկինս և յերկրի։ զհաց մեր հանապազորդ տուր մեզ այսօր։ և թող մեզ զպարտիս մեր, որպէս և մեք թողումք մերոց պարտապանաց։ և մի տանիր զմեզ ի փորձութիւն։ այլ փրկեա զմեզ ի չարէն։ [edit] Eastern Armenian Հա՛յր մեր երկնավոր, թող սրբաբանվի քո անունը։ Թող գա՛ քո արքայությունը, թող կատարվի՛ քո կամքը, ինչպես որ երկնքում, այնպես էլ երկրի վրա։ Ամենօրյա մեր հացը այսօր և՛ս տուր մեզ։ Ների՛ր մեր հանցանքները, ինչպես որ մենք ենք ներում նրանց, որոնք մեր դեմ նույնպես հանցանք են գործել։ Եվ թույլ մի՛ տուր, որ ընկնենք փորձության մեջ, այլ ազատի՛ր մեզ չարից։ [edit] Western Armenian Հա՛յր մեր՝ որ երկինքն ես, քու անունդ սուրբ ըլլայ. քու թագաւորութիւնդ գայ. քու կամքդ ըլլայ, ինչպէս երկինքը՝ նոյնպէս երկրի վրայ։ Մեր ամէնօրեայ հացը՝ մեզի տո՛ւր այսօր. մեզի ներէ՛ մեր պարտքերը, ինչպէս մենք ալ կը ներենք մեր պարտապաններուն. ու մեզ մի՛ տանիր փորձութեան, հապա մեզ ազատէ՛ Չարէն Edited April 25, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Im sorry Sip! I had a long day, total typo. And thanks much for the corrections Arpa. The thing is I copied this from a Badarak book I have and this was their transliteration. Im also glad that you posted both Eastern and Western Ashkharabar versions, it is valuable to have up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanetsi Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Now lets clear things up with the grand intro: I always hear "Anoon Hor, yev Vortvo, yev Hoqvooyn Surpo." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that it was "Hanoon Hor..." The krapar/grabar prefix of the "h" connotes "in", as in "In the name of the Father..." edit note: added that it was krapar/grabar. Edited April 25, 2006 by Vanetsi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerOhannesian Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 at my church we spell it "Hayr Mer" but thatnks for the lyrics, i know how to say it but i can never spell it. Im new here also but hope to talk a lot cause i love my peoples and we need to be a nation of 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Welcome DerOhannesian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 at my church we spell it "Hayr Mer" but thatnks for the lyrics, i know how to say it but i can never spell it. Im new here also but hope to talk a lot cause i love my peoples and we need to be a nation of 1. at my church we spell it 'Հայր Մեր'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shushan-tsaxik Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 TTHANKSS A BUNCH EVERYONE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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