MosJan Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Anuhs jan yes i have seen some of it - but not today - Today it was Ice Age time for kids as for the Dixlavos or dixlorovoz correcter - ye s he ha s some good points but - his 1001% rabiz him self - the way i see it it's an joke show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 How was Ice Age? You're right that the show is also rabiz, but I love the constructive criticism of the show And it's funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 it is funny Ice age was good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Movses, have you seen on H1 the new show where an animated man criticizes the music videos? I've seen it a couple of times, and today it was with our time around 9pm. have seen only one episode of it... it's hillerious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 has any of you seen the debate on H1 for the song ??? whats your take on it ?? HArout jan the program has an purpose - but wan his mocking and criticizing a untasteful and dilettante music videos he should pay attention haw he speaks and his jargon otherwise it's like an doctor who's telling an patient to quit smoking wan he himself is an smoker and still has an ashtray fool of cigarette buts front of him and his cuffing his lungs out wan he talks - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 has any of you seen the debate on H1 for the song ??? whats your take on it ?? Sireli Movses, I'm sure you wouldn't like my opinion about the debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 HArout jan the program has an purpose - but wan his mocking and criticizing a untasteful and dilettante music videos he should pay attention haw he speaks and his jargon otherwise it's like an doctor who's telling an patient to quit smoking wan he himself is an smoker and still has an ashtray fool of cigarette buts front of him and his cuffing his lungs out wan he talks - Well, the character has to talk on the same level as the fans of the video, otherwise those people wouldn't listen to him. It reminds me of the "Awesomely Bad Videos" on VH1, where comics make fun of videos (sometimes untasteful humor) but have really valid arguments to make against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Sireli Movses, I'm sure you wouldn't like my opinion about the debate Anuhsik janj asa lsum em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 ARMENIAN SINGER ANDRE DOESN’T CARE FOR ILL CRITICISM * Andre doesn’t care for the various threats that the Azeris send to him since March 12. Certainly, he will pay no attention to absurd and ill criticism of them and will participate in the competition with the will to win. "All of the participants are eager to win. The success I have at the competition is quite unexpected for me," Andre said at a press conference on April 4. As a result of Internet voting, Andre is among the best five singers of Eurovision-2006. He competes with the representatives of Romania, Greece and Andorra. Till May 18, Andre will participate at the semi-final of the competition with a promoter, performing in Romania, Byelorussia, Moldova, Andorra, Monaco, France, Cyprus and Greece. In response to the question of daily Azg, Diana Mnatsakanian, head of the Armenian delegation at Eurovision-2006, head of PR Department of RA Public TV, said that the music TV channels of the mentioned countries initiate TV shows where Andre will perform his song and the clip. Mnatsakanian stated that the representatives of Israel and Cyprus have already applied for performing in Armenia. She added that currently RA Public TV negotiates with the producer of the Russian singer Dima Bilan. RA Public TV is one of the 38 European TVs that are involved in the implementation of the show. Mnatsakanian didn’t specify how much RA Public TV spent on the show but stated that our expenses can’t be compared to those of BBC and ZDF. The initiators also didn’t say what song will be performed at the May 18 concert. They just stated that the dance was staged by Yegor Drouzhin, famous Russian choreographer, and quite unique costumes are prepared for the show. In response to the question by what criteria they chose the song to be performed, Diana Mnatsakanian said that it was chosen through closed voting. "We received 15 songs mainly from abroad. Three of the songs were from Armenia and we, naturally preferred the Armenian one. The other two authors of the songs were composers Aram Avagian and Martin Mirzoyan. Diana Mnatsakanian believes that Armenia has all required conditions to host Eurovision-2007, if Andre wins the competition. * By Tamar Minasian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stver Broadcasting Inc. Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Hi guys, "Without Your Love" is a winner! It's certainly not an Armenian song per-say, it however has all the hallmarks for a successful Eurovision song. It's a "Kirkorov vs Mark Anthony" type of song and the music video reminds of the movie "The Cell" with Jeniffer Lopez. All in all, my psychic powers tell me Aremani will win this year! Bravo Hayer! - 5 Astgh ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I just wish to see him win he is a hard working artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Love-Hate Song: Armenia’s Eurovision entry causes debate and threats By Gayane Abrahamyan ArmeniaNow reporter On May 18th and 20th Armenian pop singer Andre will appear before the European TV viewing public under the Armenian flag at the Eurovision international song competition in Athens. He will perform a song that has become the focus of debate and even political speculation, even gaining discussion among Parliament Members. Andre says he isn’t scared Critics say the song “Without Your Love” does not represent Armenian music and that it is in fact Arabic or Turkish and that Armenia is pandering to European tastes by presenting such a song. “If Europe loves it today we serve it, if it wishes Indian, we will write an Indian one. Armenian is not in respect, forget it,” says the Chairman of the Union of Composers of Armenia Robert Amirkhanyan, then dismisses the song as not being worth his criticism. The music was written by the leader of the State Jazz Band of Armenia, composer Armen Martirosyan, with instrumental arrangements by Ara Torosyan (Murzik) and lyrics by Katrin Bekian. “Yes, Europe is inclined towards Eastern (culture), but we are not the West either,” says arranger Torosyan. “Armenians have not heard their folk songs for so long that they don’t differentiate between the Armenian and the Turkish; this song is a compilation of the European and the Eastern, just as we are between Europe and the East. Here there is no deviation from ethnographic music and the Armenian tune.” Other pop singers view the song as well-suited for the competition, which is held annually. The winner is selected by means of phone and SMS messages and the number of votes also decide the top ten countries to participate automatically in the next year’s finals. One of the important preconditions is that a country cannot vote for its own song. “There is no need to make a scandal,” says singer Shushan Petrosyan. “We have numerous other reasons for talking about Arabic and Turkish motives in the Armenian pop music; this is not the case, we just need to be willing and do everything for Andre to win.” Singer Aramo says he likes the instrumental arrangement of the song more than the lyrics and the video. Aramo says the song does not fit Andre somehow, and the East is embellished in the song, which is not typical to Armenian music. But conductor Tigran Hekekyan says there is no need to present a piece of national cultural value in such a festival. He describes the competition as a “market”, adding that the best chance of winning is whatever “sells”. Hekekyan also says that the debate over eastern influence in Armenian music seems a little late. Pop singer Andre, will appear at Eurovision with a song that gained the criticism of many Armenians who say it is a poor representation of Armenian music. Share your thoughts in ArmeniaNow’s forums. “The song is not born occasionally, it’s the mirror of a whole cultural layer and there is a need in discussing the problem of that layer existence and not cling on one song,” says Hekekyan. Debate on the matter is useless, says the Chairman of the Board of the Public Television Alexan Harutyunyan, since he is the one to decide the song and the singer to be sent to the competition. “This is the musical competition of the European broadcasters union and the choice of the song to be presented is ascribed purely to us. I could make the decision myself but I listened and took the opinion of the best musicians and (popular music) authorities of the republic,” says Harutyunyan. And while Armenians are discussing the song, Azerbaijanis are flooding Andre with threats. A month ago the Minister of Culture of Azerbaijan addressed a letter to Eurovision protesting Andre’s participation, citing the fact that the singer was born in “Nagorno Karabakh Republic” an “occupied territory” of Azerbaijan. The singer has even gotten death threats on Internet forum discussions. “Nobody can kill me, they simply envy me,” Andre told ArmeniaNow. “For me it was more unpleasant at first to hear the criticism on the Armenian side, but I don’t pay attention to them either. Let them not listen to my song if they don’t like it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stver Broadcasting Inc. Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 “Nobody can kill me, they simply envy me,” Andre told ArmeniaNow. “For me it was more unpleasant at first to hear the criticism on the Armenian side, but I don’t pay attention to them either. Let them not listen to my song if they don’t like it.” Etkan Ban! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Hrach Qeshishyan made a remark ( during a TV Discussion ) it was pointed to oafishness who war criticizing Andre & the song for being turkish like - it was somewhat like this " mer hasarakutyun@ ch@ndimatsav iyn pastin yerb Mer yerkri Mshakuytayin gerateshchutyun@ GUSANI bardzraguyn kochjum shnorhets turqahot yerajshtutyan k@rroghin " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 you know if an french or Swedish singers song had a hint of Armenian elements or even a sound of our Armenian duduk or Shvi - we Armenian would of made a GOD out of him - would of named our children after the song and the singer - but wan Our Armenian Singer is singing a New age song and it's nicely don it has not only good lyrics - but a also good composition and balance of new age and Armenian music we don't wish to accept it my understanding is that political officials should practise politics - or atlist discus politics - but no t the music or this sing - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stver Broadcasting Inc. Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Anyone making claims that the song "Without your love" has turkish elements is out of their mind! If anything it sounds Oriental, Latin, and Indo-European. I think it's "business as usual" and the politicians/reporters will say/do anything for attention! Thans for the research MosJan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) Eurovision is a rather distasteful event that makes me think of Soviet pop music (the so-called "Estrada"). It is ment to unite the Euro community and its neighbours in synthesing some "All European" type of music I guess, but like everything artificially "united" it has become some big party were all people are happy but they don't realy know why. I watched it the last time and that's what it looked like. Andre's song suits there very well. Edited April 14, 2006 by Armen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Who dares to speak against the taste of Public Television? Satik SEYRANYAN | April 7, 2006 A talk show aired on public television (H1) last Sunday regarding the song that Andre will sing at the “EuroVision” song contest. The guests included the writer of the song and composer Armen Martirosyan, Ara Gevorgyan, who did the song arrangements, video clip producer Hrach Keshishyan, television journalist for “Kentron” television Petros Ghazaryan, television journalist for “Armenia” television Gevorg Altunyan, singers Hayko, Shushan Petrosyan, Varduhi Vardanyan, Sirusho, director of the “Small Singers of Armenia” choir Tigran Hekekyan, director of the jazz band of the contemporary symphonic orchestra of Public Television Yervand Yerznkyan and other well-known and unknown people. “168 Hours” had called the songwriter and video clip producer to the editorial office a couple of days ago. At first, they had agreed to the offer, but then after consulting with head of the television board, they came up with reasons for not coming. One of the guests told our reporter that he was getting ready to participate in the talk show to be aired on public television. On Sunday, many Armenian viewers witnessed that “show”. I really regret not being here to watch the show. While watching the show, a number of questions came into mind. The main question: who wants Andre to lose during the “EuroVision” song contest? The answer: nobody. If any of the guests in the studio (even the youth sitting in the audience and applauding whenever they felt like it) wish to participate in a similar international contest, everyone in Armenia will support their compatriot and wish him luck. No matter what kind of international contest it be, the Armenian that goes out to participate represents the nation (even in a contest for physics). But that doesn’t mean that the entire population of Armenia has to like what they see or hear, or there shouldn’t be any criticism. What happened on Sunday was the criticism of different opinions. That talk show reminded me of a show back in the mid-70s, when the then Central television network showed how workers and villagers were suing the Solzhenitsi for receiving a Nobel Prize for a novel, which hadn’t even been printed in the Soviet Union and very few had read. The only person who actually criticized the song was someone by the name of Aramazd (he didn’t wish to state his last name), who tried to explain in a nice way why he didn’t like the song. It was simply ridiculous to see how the other guests attacked Aramazd and asked him how he dared to say such a thing, or why he didn’t like it. TV journalist Petros Ghazaryan tried to explain that the media didn’t kill the song, they simply criticized it and said that the two are different from each other. But when Petros said that he would have liked to see experts sitting in the studio who actually didn’t like the song, so the talk show could have some criticism instead of having Aramazd, everyone attacked Petros. Shushan Petrosyan and many of the guests considered Aramazd and Petros as traitors. What was Shushan Petrosyan so angry about? Was it the fact that Petros said that Shushan only sings in front of the Ararat mountain, in the plateau or near cross-stones? What’s wrong with what he said? He’s only saying that for Shushan’s own good. The guests present advised Petros not to watch Shushan’s music videos and just change the channel. My dear artists, cultural figures, TV journalists and applauders-let’s not forget that the Public Television Station is financed by the state and the state, in turn, gets the money from taxpayers like you and I. This is not a private television network. Some of the guests were making offensive remarks about the press and other television network broadcasts, without taking into consideration the fact that media and television play an important role in their careers and their life. Some of the guests were there to stand up for Andre. But what’s wrong with Andre? He is a young, talented singer who has his whole life ahead of him. In contrast to other singers, he has many fans. It’s not easy being famous and being a superstar has its advantages and disadvantages. Criticism can only make him work harder. Nobody likes every star out there and the stars don’t need all the love. The television viewers watching the talk show like Andre a thousand times more than the guests sitting in the studio, who actually know Andre a little better than them. How did Tigran Hekekyan help Andre when he said that nothing is wrong with the song and the video clip, when he hasn’t even heard the song or seen the video clip? The main point of his speech was that he wouldn’t have come to the talk show if it hadn’t been for the invitation of the Public Television staff. (now it’s time to clap). Or, how can we believe Shushan Petrosyan when she was the one who stood up a month ago and asked “How come two people can sit and decide who is going to represent Armenia with a song at “EuroVision”…? In the beginning of March, she expressed her disappointment in the fact that only Public Television takes on the responsibility of deciding who will go participate in the contest. Shushan was the one who said a month ago that two people couldn’t just get up and decide that Andre will sing at “EuroVision”(when it was really a council, rather than two people), but on Sunday she was actually defending Andre (from who and what?-we didn’t find out). According to Shushan, they could have suggested sending her, but she said that she would reject the offer because, in her words, “first of all, that contest is politicized and nobody remembers the singers on stage after the contest.” How can we believe songwriter Armen Martirosyan when he said that he denies the fact that he didn’t like the arrangement? Martirosyan told me in person that there is a huge difference between the song that he had written and the arrangement… We can’t insist on anything and not accept criticism. We must discuss, base opinions and take responsibility for what we do, rather than blurting out comments in different places. Perhaps the song melody and the English lyrics are what hold people back from understanding the meaning of the song. Perhaps the reason is the distasteful video clip, which has nothing to do with a love song. After all, the audience got acquainted with the song when the video clip appeared on the screens. We understand that an artist’s soul is delicate and sensitive-not only the artist, but also the taxi driver, scientist, athlete, the cook, bricklayer, your average worker, etc. Nobody wants to offend anyone; there are simply some people who have different opinions about the song. What’s the problem? How did the different opinionated media turn evil? Throughout history, media has been the one source to write about the different episodes and projects of those artists. The media has responded even when many of our cultural ministers have stepped down from office due to the mistreatment of state officials. Let’s not forget that the simple audience remembers things, has taste, understands and expresses opinions, which don’t always correspond to the opinions of others. All they are doing is politicizing the whole thing, discussing Armenian-Azerbaijani relations, differentiating between a citizen of Yerevan and someone from Karabagh, making fake patriotic speeches…now and then they recall Zeynab Khanlarova, whom, fortunately, the young generation of today knows nothing about…they decide who betrays the nation and who doesn’t…they start suspecting whether or not Turkish culture really exists or not. Poor Andre. Who knows how much that “show” encouraged him and gave him the strength to improve? Let’s just hope that he will respect the different opinions and try to find something useful, or even learn from his mistakes based on the talk show on Sunday. As for “EuroVision”, that is just a contest, a great business plan for the Public Television Station, which gives the singer an opportunity to appear in front of others. Perhaps not many people make long speeches, they don’t show themselves off, but everyone, even the people who don’t like the song, or the people that don’t like Andre’s performance, the people who are indifferent to all the chaos going on, the people who have started to discuss conflicts-they all want Andre to perform well and win, not only in “EuroVision”, but also in other contests. http://www.168.am/en/articles/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 way to much negativity haw can you use 8566 correctors to compose something and not say anything good ??? Perhaps the reason is the distasteful video clip, which has nothing to do with a love song. After all, the audience got acquainted with the song when the video clip appeared on the screens. distasteful video clip ?? it's not the best but it's not distasteful video clip criticizing , discussing exchanging / swapping opinions i can understand but such negative work from journalist - i just can't stand one question i have for Satik - Who is Your daddy ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Eurovision 2006. Semifinal On the Armenian Public TV watch the live broadcast of Eurovision song contest on May 18 at 23:55. Andre will present Armenia. Armenians in the Diaspora! Stay with Public TV of Armenia on May 18th and vote for Andre! Nothing is possible without your love! Open your hearts and enjoy the song! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 are you all ready ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 We are only a few hours away from the Semi-Final of the 51st Eurovision Song Contest, which is hosted in Athens for the first time. The third and final dress rehearsal came to an end shortly after 16:00 and everything is ready for a spectacular show. The rehearsal ran smoothly and things fell right into place! Many spectators attended the last rehearsal to enjoy the impressive opening and closing shows, which Fokas Evangelinos choreographed, to see Maria Menounos and Sakis Rouvas up close and feel the rhythm of the 23 songs contesting for a place in the Final on 20 May. All contestants were cheered on and applauded for, while spectators went crazy for Annette Artani, representing Cyprus, Lordi, representing Finland, and Hari Mata Hari, representing Bosnia-Herzegovina. Thursday’s rehearsals were almost similar to those performed on Wednesday, only marked by some minor differences. Instead of "Shake It," Sakis Rouvas sang the English version of "S’ Echo Erotevtei," while the envelope containing the results was handed over to Sakis by volunteers who were lined up in a chain-like formation. As for the artists’ costumes, most of them were on the same clothes, except for Andorra’s participant Jenny, who appeared on stage without the garters, as well as for Carola, who was dressed in white pants, instead of silver, set with a gold top. It goes without saying, though, that the artists may appear in the semifinal wearing different clothes from that in the rehearsals. So, hold your horses until 10pm (Greek local time) and stay tuned on NET and www.eurovision.tv to watch live the semifinal and the 10 countries that will make it to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 http://www.eurovision.tv/english/index.htm# Go to Web Cast - you need to get some plagins- takes less then a minute - and your in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 LAv er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Andre is on top - 20251 Points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.