oseymen Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Hi, I am a newbie in duduk playing, and I desperately need some pointers. I'm having trouble with my duduk reeds. I'm very new to duduk playing, and whenever I play for more than a couple of minutes the reed opening becomes too wide and it becomes very difficult to get a decent sound from it. I keep the reed firmly closed when it's stored so it is fine when I first start playing. I've tried securing the bridle more firmly, but while this works in the short term, Any info, recommendation or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, OS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Is your reed wet enough when you first begin playing? Also, do you have similar problems when playing with alternate reeds? Mosjan is our resident duduk expert - I'm sure he'll drop by soon enough. Good luck & welcome to HF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Welcome to Hye Forum do you know the name of the master who made the reed ?? or wher did you get/buy the reed can you post a picture of it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oseymen Posted November 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Thanks for the replies. Here are the answers for your queries: 1. When I first start playing, the reed is closed completely. After I make it wet, I start to get some sounds out of it - for 5-6 minutes. After that it becomes impossible for me to get any sound out of it. I haven't tried with alternative reeds. 2. I bought the duduk from eBay. I know you won't approve it but as I said I am a newbie, I just wanted to try it. I contacted the guy I bought the duduk from, and he told me the master is Samvel Markosian. I will try to post the pictures as soon as possible. I am guessing that I am doing something wrong somewhere. Any pointer would be appreciated. Thanks, OS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Is your reed wet enough when you first begin playing? Also, do you have similar problems when playing with alternate reeds? Bad, bad Vava ... I neen some fresh air or I will have a heart stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Thanks for the replies. Here are the answers for your queries: 1. When I first start playing, the reed is closed completely. After I make it wet, I start to get some sounds out of it - for 5-6 minutes. After that it becomes impossible for me to get any sound out of it. I haven't tried with alternative reeds. 2. I bought the duduk from eBay. I know you won't approve it but as I said I am a newbie, I just wanted to try it. I contacted the guy I bought the duduk from, and he told me the master is Samvel Markosian. I will try to post the pictures as soon as possible. I am guessing that I am doing something wrong somewhere. Any pointer would be appreciated. Thanks, OS assuming that your reed is good or good enough to play most reed's on eBay do need work - and are only 50~60% ready - you might need to tune them and work on them ..... any new reed can have such problems - gave it more time - massage the tip of the reed after you wet it / http://www.duduk.com/reed/reed-mas.gif what you need to undressed is that your reed is new and in order for the reed to work and make good sound - vibration / resonance - the lisp of the reed need to be touching each other 2 to 2 1/2 mm http://www.duduk.com/reed/reed-2mm.gif this is wan you will have the maximum sound agine assuming that your reed is good it's not a Souvenir #1 if you wet the reed to much you will have this problem #2 wan wetting the reed - only wet the tip of the reed #3 wan storing the reed - close the cap just enough to close the 2 lips of the reed - do not force the reed cap #4 wan storing the reed make sure the brittle is Free- it's not pressing the reed #5 Samvel Markosian ??? sorry don;t know him - and i know most every duduk MASTER in Armenia if you need additional help - stop by at our web site, on the top you can see a link to duduk FAQ. most of the eBay duduk "masters" do print that page and offer them as free instructions MOvses http://www.duduk.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Movses, I want to buy a duduk from you. (with a good reed) PM me - I will buy it as a Christmas present to myslef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Is your reed wet enough when you first begin playing? Also, do you have similar problems when playing with alternate reeds? any new reed can have such problems - gave it more time - massage the tip of the reed after you wet it http://www.duduk.com Bad, bad Vava ... I neen some fresh air or I will have a heart stroke. Oh no Armen! It's beginning to sound like the Auger episode all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Vavajan i will make one for you my self just gave me some time. i have 3 orders of custom duduk on hand now - gave or take 2 week's - i'll pm you wan it's ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Oh no Armen! It's beginning to sound like the Auger episode all over again That made my day yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Vavajan i will make one for you my self just gave me some time. i have 3 orders of custom duduk on hand now - gave or take 2 week's - i'll pm you wan it's ready Mosjan, I am very patient (unlike most Armenians) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Movses jan, I will purchase one from you as well buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Movses jan, I will purchase one from you as well buddy Azat jan axper jan du duduk@ inch es anum ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Mosjan, I am very patient (unlike most Armenians) OK VAvajan no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Azat jan axper jan du duduk@ inch es anum ??? Axchkerkin zarmatsnem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Azat jan di irenst zarmatsnelu kariq chunes iyl @entrelu iranq Arden isk Zarmatsats en - yerb tekuz mek angam qez hat pativ unen Surj x@melu nayi et gorts@ aragatsra - Havasty Arbyurnerits lsel em or Harout@ het LA a galis Shutov Shat Shutov - vagh@ arden estegha linelu enpes or jamanak@T mi vatni duduki v@ra ... antsy gortsy ..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Movses, I want to buy a duduk from you. (with a good reed) PM me - I will buy it as a Christmas present to myslef. sorry Vavajan could not get the duduk ready for the Christmas- but it's ready now for Easter PM me yoru shipping info Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Movses, I'm sorry for not getting curious sooner, but now I am. Do you play duduk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Anushik jan i can - but I'm not allowed to, after my thyroid ( ZOB ) has been removed from neck doctors don't recommend me to play any wind instrument, not even a Shvi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Oh Movses, I'm terribly sorry to hear that. It must be tough. You used to play the duduk and the shvi regularly? Did you study those instruments seriously? I'm taking Armenian music history (finally!) and I love, love, love our musical heritage, and of course our heritage in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Anush jan i started wan i was 25~26 by my self - only to find my self doing the wrong thinks .... then found a duduk master who has reached me ..... since 2001 it was getting harder and harder for me to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 sorry Vavajan could not get the duduk ready for the Christmas- but it's ready now for Easter PM me yoru shipping info Movses Wow! Thanks SO much - I sent you a PM a few minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Anoushik, where do you take Armenian music history? I live in the LA area, and this is something that I am very interested in. Thanks Oh Movses, I'm terribly sorry to hear that. It must be tough. You used to play the duduk and the shvi regularly? Did you study those instruments seriously? I'm taking Armenian music history (finally!) and I love, love, love our musical heritage, and of course our heritage in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Jonathan, I'm taking the class at USC. The same professor also teaches the class at UCLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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