Armenian Genocide On History Channel -update- PBS

[Sip]

Anyone happen to catch it last night? I don't know much about it other than there was something on the history channel last night on the topic ... a friend of mine was asking me about it and I was like

[Arpa]

Anyone happen to catch it last night? I don't know much about it other than there was something on the history channel last night on the topic ... a friend of mine was asking me about it and I was like

 

Are you sure your friend heard it right?

To some the A-word seems to be synonymous to the G-word. Is that how we teach our otar friends?

A SAAAAADDD commentary! :angry:

As very few may know that there was an Armenia and Armenians long before the Big G, just as well there are now, if only WE would say so.

Last night the History Channel had several episodes of the Crusades. In one of them the A-word was mentioned several times. It was as if the narrator was reading the below verbatim. He even mispronounced Cilcia when he said “sisilia”. It reminds me the time when Prof. Frinta of Slovak heritage, a history profesoor at the university here reprimanded me when I said "silisia", saying; "It is Klikia, Kilkia, not 'silisia' !" How "sili" of me!

All in all, the A-word was mentioned numerous times but mostly in reference to Edessa, not when they were describing how those “idiots” chose to travel across the middle of Asia Minor, having to walk south over the Taurus Mountains to get to Kilikia proper (not mentioned at this juncture). Even when they were talking about Antioch the word “Christian” was used several times but not the A-word. However, all is not lost, as above the A-word was recited several times.

Below and excerpt from this site;

Once again, note how “cilicia” is misspelled several times. You think that these so called “historians“ of the History Channel would have the decency to at least consult those who may know something about the subject.

Sorry to say that your mountains, the Seg Sipana Sarer/Սեգ Սիփանա Սարեր was not mentioned either. :)

http://www.medievalcrusades.com/edessa.htm

 

Edessa, located in Armenia, in Celicia, was the most important of the Armenian cities. On the Euphrates, the population was comprised of the Armenian faction (Separated Church) of the Eastern Church. It was actually under the rule of Constantinople, but was in the middle of the expansion of the Seljuk Empire.

It was overseen by the Armenian Thoros. He had captured it from the Turks in 1094. Having held it for two years, it was only because of the inability of the Turks to unite against him.

Tancred saw Edessa as his chance to cut himself a piece of real estate while his uncle Bohemond was busy with Antioch. But Baldwin of Bouillon (Godfrey's brother) has his eye on Edessa. His answer was to aquire it diplomatically.

Baldwin's wife and children had just died in Marash. Baldwin wasted no time. As Baldwin advanced into Ciecelia, Toros sent an embassy to Baldwin. Toros was old, barely holding his conquest, and was childless. The original deal had been to offer Baldwin the opportunity to serve under him, but Baldwin held out for the big prize. He then offered Baldwin all of Edessa. Toros would adopt Baldwin, making him legal heir.

The ceremony is repeated in many accounts, and is amusing in each. The original ceremony was meant for a child. Adjusted for a grown man, Toros wore a large shirt, and the two men covered themselves in it, and rubbed bare chested together. This was then repeated with Toros' wife.

A conspiracy then hatched, where the rivals of Toros plotted a riot while Baldwin looked away. The mob marched on Toros' palace. Toros offered to abdicate. Baldwin agreed, but confined him to the palace. He tried to escape and was killed by the mobs. On March 10th, 1096, Edessa was given to Baldwin of Boulogne, as the first conquest of the Crusades.

Edited November 13, 2005 by Arpa

[phantom22]

Are you sure your friend heard it right?

To some the A-word seems to be synonymous to the G-word. Is that how we teach our otar friends?

A SAAAAADDD commentary! :angry:

As very few may know that there was an Armenia and Armenians long before the Big G, just as well there are now, if only WE would say so.

Last night the History Channel had several episodes of the Crusades. In one of them the A-word was mentioned several times. It was as if the narrator was reading the below verbatim. He even mispronounced Cilcia when he said “sisilia”. It reminds me the time when Prof. Frinta of Slovak heritage, a history profesoor at the university here reprimanded me when I said "silisia", saying; "It is Klikia, Kilkia, not 'silisia' !" How "sili" of me!

All in all, the A-word was mentioned numerous times but mostly in reference to Edessa, not when they were describing how those “idiots” chose to travel across the middle of Asia Minor, having to walk south over the Taurus Mountains to get to Kilikia proper (not mentioned at this juncture). Even when they were talking about Antioch the word “Christian” was used several times but not the A-word. However, all is not lost, as above the A-word was recited several times.

Below and excerpt from this site;

Once again, note how “cilicia” is misspelled several times. You think that these so called “historians“ of the History Channel would have the decency to at least consult those who may know something about the subject.

Sorry to say that your mountains, the Seg Sipana Sarer/Սեգ Սիփանա Սարեր was not mentioned either. :)

http://www.medievalcrusades.com/edessa.htm

 

Edessa, located in Armenia, in Celicia, was the most important of the Armenian cities. On the Euphrates, the population was comprised of the Armenian faction (Separated Church) of the Eastern Church. It was actually under the rule of Constantinople, but was in the middle of the expansion of the Seljuk Empire.

It was overseen by the Armenian Thoros. He had captured it from the Turks in 1094. Having held it for two years, it was only because of the inability of the Turks to unite against him.

Tancred saw Edessa as his chance to cut himself a piece of real estate while his uncle Bohemond was busy with Antioch. But Baldwin of Bouillon (Godfrey's brother) has his eye on Edessa. His answer was to aquire it diplomatically.

Baldwin's wife and children had just died in Marash. Baldwin wasted no time. As Baldwin advanced into Ciecelia, Toros sent an embassy to Baldwin. Toros was old, barely holding his conquest, and was childless. The original deal had been to offer Baldwin the opportunity to serve under him, but Baldwin held out for the big prize. He then offered Baldwin all of Edessa. Toros would adopt Baldwin, making him legal heir.

The ceremony is repeated in many accounts, and is amusing in each. The original ceremony was meant for a child. Adjusted for a grown man, Toros wore a large shirt, and the two men covered themselves in it, and rubbed bare chested together. This was then repeated with Toros' wife.

A conspiracy then hatched, where the rivals of Toros plotted a riot while Baldwin looked away. The mob marched on Toros' palace. Toros offered to abdicate. Baldwin agreed, but confined him to the palace. He tried to escape and was killed by the mobs. On March 10th, 1096, Edessa was given to Baldwin of Boulogne, as the first conquest of the Crusades.

 

This is a major milestone. A number of years a go, I wrote a short letter to the editor of the magazine that came with my subscription to the History Channel. The "gist" of my letter was that one of the articles failed to even mention "Armenian" when discussing at length Mount Ararat and Eastern Anatolia. My matter of fact letter was never published, nor was anything ever written about the major omissions and distortions in the article about Eastern Anatolia. Not once was the word "Armenian" ever used in a lenghty article.

Edited November 13, 2005 by phantom22

[Arpa]

This is a major milestone. A number of years a go, I wrote a short letter to the editor of the magazine that came with my subscription to the History Channel. The just" of my letter was that one of the articles failed to even mention "Armenian" when discussing at length Mount Ararat and Eastern Anatolia. My matter of fact letter was never published, nor was anything ever written about the major emissions and distortions in the article about Eastern Anatolia. Not once was the word "Armenian" ever used in a lenghty article.

Khoja, please revise your submission.

It is "gist", not "just', and "omission" not "emission".

:)

Edited November 13, 2005 by Arpa

[Sip]

I like how things morph as they go from mouth to mouth ... upon checking and re-checking, sounds like it was more like PBS and not history channel

[phantom22]

Khoja, please revise your submission.

It is "gist", not "just', and "omission" not "emission".

:)

 

Thank you Arpa,

 

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