MosJan Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Mt NEMRUT & it's WONDERS http://www.adiyamanli.org/nemrut_pics/resim-nemrut_big.jpg did some serch on the web on Mt Nemrut most all of the info is "FILTERED" http://www.adiyamanli.org/nemrut_pics/resim-nemrut3_big.jpg my question is are the God’s in the picture Armenian God’s or have become Armenian God’s in any point of time The statues represent , Apollo, Fortuna, Heracles and Zeus at oen point Nemrut was in Armenia http://www.adiyamanli.org/nemrut_pics/mt_nemrut_100BC_big.jpg or "next" to ARmenia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 "There is an absolutely great photographer who is ethnically Armenian, Ara Guller. He is called the live symbol of Istanbul . Of course, in Turkey no one mentions that he is an Armenian but they worship him and there is the cult of Ara Guller. He is very famous all over the world. He shot the portraits of many famous and great people. He photographed Churchill, Fellini, Sofi Loren and Brigit Bardot but his most famous work is of Istanbul starting from middle of the last century. In 1960, he was the first to photograph the statutes of Gods – Armenian Gods – on the Mountain of Nemrut . He was also the first when he was charged with the task by the Turkish Army of photographing what is considered the remnants of Noah's Ark. Most of all, he was proud of these two photographs because these two features opened up the world for him. I filmed him for a documentary film about Turkey and this is what he said.” No need to confuse the flags under which we live, the language we speak with the heart that beats in the same way in everyone when the colour of our blood is the same. An artist belongs to the world that understands and loves him and not this or that nation.” Yelena Kurdiyan, Gagik Tadevosyan " http://www.hetq.am/eng/culture/0503-tkhzmalyan.html this was the article that made me look for the Mt Nemrut and it's Wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaxias Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Commagene was an Armenian Kingdom along with Sophene so everything in there is naturally Armenian. The map shows it when it was a Roman province. The Gods are Hellenistic (not Hellenic), a fusion of Aegean, Anatolian and Iranic deities. Antiochus I Theos( half Seleucid) founded Nemrut Dağ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 i need more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaxias Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 i need more info style_images/master/snapback.png Go to Armenian Highland, there's info on Nemrut in one of the pages for Tigran the Great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 i did find some info http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...:en-US:official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaxias Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 i did find some info http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...:en-US:official style_images/master/snapback.png Yeap, before Zariades and Artashes. Commagene was ruled by half Ervandouni/Orontid half Selvkid/Seleucid Kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 ok then this will be a good place to bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 (edited) Beautifull pictures MosJan. I love the Lion and the Eagle. Here is a book I came about when searching "Urartu" on Amazon.com. Pheonix:The Peoples of the Hills: Ancient Ararat and the Caucasus It is general, but as you can see the heads of 2 Nemrut gods are on the cover, so I'm geussing it's a good read on the subject. Edited June 23, 2005 by Zartonk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Thanks Zartonk but still i need some more info NOW more new pic's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted July 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 just got some new pic's it's not Mt. nemrut - it's the replica of it in istambul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 http://www.adiyamanli.org/nemrut_pics/resim-nemrut_big.jpg WOW! Cool image!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Is this place still intact? It looks awesome. I would definitely like to visit it one day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Follow the link and watch the live show with Artak Movsesian December 14, 2006 http://louysworld.com/archiv.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 it's one of my obsessions / NEMRUT / http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=11977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Watched the show. Very interesting. Always wanted to see Artak. He has good points.The only thing is politics is not his thing. But I really liked his explanation of issues from esoteric, mythological and historical points of view. Nice combination. And I am really proud and happy that current historians in Armenia have such liberal approach to their profession. I mean they do not stay in margins made by other historians and they do their own researches including researches in occult and other esoteric sciences. The other guy Stepan Kiremidjian. Oh god. I think he is an idiot and he shouldn't be there and talk and host a show like that. The guy was very unethical and unarticulated. Absolutely no background of what he is doing and talking about. P.S. I think this thread should be under Mythology section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Always wanted to see Artak. i'm sure you did The only thing is politics is not his thing. you didn't like him talking about the role of the jews in the armenian reality? well, that's his job. And I am really proud and happy that current historians in Armenia have such liberal approach to their profession. yes indeed. unlike the fools who followed the footsteps of pyatrovsky and called the ararat kingdom urartu, most of the scholars today are independent thinkers. they simply refuse to say the earth is flat I mean they do not stay in margins made by other historians and they do their own researches including researches in occult and other esoteric sciences. do you know who Hovik Nersesian is? I'm sure you and your friends(James Russel, Nina Garsoayan, Ronald Syuni) know and hate to hear about Armen Ayvazyan. He to is a young and a very intelligent scholar. The other guy Stepan Kiremidjian. Oh god. I think he is an idiot and he shouldn't be there and talk and host a show like that. well it's his show and he is not that stupid as you might think. in fact, Stepan is an ex-KGB agent. The guy was very unethical and unarticulated. LOL that's him. i know him in person P.S. I think this thread should be under Mythology section. i don't think so. Artak wasn't preaching anything. he was simply recording the facts about the events of the past. you can also watch the first part of the conversation from the previous day show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 it's one of my obsessions / NEMRUT / http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=11977 mersi for the link Mos jan. i too like to read about nemrut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) ArmoArmen you are wrong! I didn't mean the role of the jews in the armenian reality when I said he shouldn't do politics. And what the hell suppose to mean me and my friends (James Russel, Nina Garsoayan, Ronald Syuni) and who is Armen Ayvazyan ? Who are these personalities? I don't know them. Are you dreaming? Edited January 19, 2007 by Error 404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Beeing a KGB agent doesn't mean he can be good talk show host or historian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Error 404, you talk about armenian scholars and know nothing about Armen Ayvazyan or Hovik Nersesian? "And I am really proud and happy that current historians in Armenia have such liberal approach to their profession" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Why are they Armenian gods and not syncretic Hellenic and Persian gods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Why are they Armenian gods and not syncretic Hellenic and Persian gods? as you can see, the earth is not flat anymore, christopher colobus did not discover america, and the hellenic and persian gods got nothing to do in the armenian highland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Why are they Armenian gods and not syncretic Hellenic and Persian gods? Can I say this? I guess not. I will say it anyay. Why don't you take your MQ, , I mean, kindly, Euro-voro-centricism somewhere else?!!! And come back after you realize that Euro is none other than Ereb/Erebuni/ Evropa/ Europa/Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Error 404, you talk about armenian scholars and know nothing about Armen Ayvazyan or Hovik Nersesian? "And I am really proud and happy that current historians in Armenia have such liberal approach to their profession" I am guessing the names you listed are new schoolars. Actually I read more old schoolars. LIke Varpetyan etc. I am not familiar with those new names. That's why I said I am happy that there are historians doing these researches. I wonder if they have like website or some type of portal where one can read about their research and activities except of TV cause I don't have and I don't watch TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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