medya Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) hello I am an iranian Kurd , we Kurds love aremnian ppl... because we both have the same enemy "Turks" and "Arab Muslems" please tell me your idea... + is it true that arrarat is a kurdish reigon in armenia? http://blog.medyadaily.com Edited April 12, 2005 by medya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 welcome to Hyeforum medya, enjoy your stay Armenian people do not consider Muslims in general as being an enamy, our strugle with Turks has very little to do with deffarance in our faith, it is important to relise Armenians found shelter in many Muslim countries, pridomenently Arab, after the Armenian Genocide. and for your question.... Ararat is located in Armenia (now in Turkey) and until early 20th century the region was populated with Armenians as well as many nationalities including Kurds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 we Kurds love aremnian ppl... style_images/master/snapback.png raw or well-done? with glass of wine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 and for your question.... Ararat is located in Armenia (now in Turkey) and until early 20th century the region was populated with Armenians as well as many nationalities including Kurds style_images/master/snapback.png i believe he is reffering to the current Ararat Marz in Armenia, which is viewed by Kurds as part of Kurdistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 i believe he is reffering to the current Ararat Marz in Armenia, which is viewed by Kurds as part of Kurdistan. style_images/master/snapback.png yeah ..i read a BBC news report that they interview with Ezedis in Ararrat , they said they are kurd...and i really dont like to steal your land..but if there are kurds in those part of armenia ...let not deny it... i am sure if we can make kurdistan united country , we can give that part of kurdistan to you as a gift ..and dont make it is our terrertory..okay? lol do you know anything about eezadis? in kurdish poems , aremenians are so popular,,,kurd poets usualy use armenian chraceter as a somebody who gives them wine...while muslems dont let himt to drink wine like this "dear aramni ...all of my life to you...please give me a glass of wine ..dear armani..." it is a famous poem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 i am sure if we can make kurdistan united country , we can give that part of kurdistan to you as a gift ..and dont make it is our terrertory..okay? lol style_images/master/snapback.png how could I refrain my self from not comenting to your stupid remark, you know what I will refrain my self from doing it becouse I'll be much more stupid then the statment you just wrote. now get lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 i am sure if we can make kurdistan united country , we can give that part of kurdistan to you as a gift ..and dont make it is our terrertory..okay? lol style_images/master/snapback.png choice at your own liking... http://www.harut.net/etc/hf/nax1.jpg or http://www.harut.net/etc/hf/nax2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) It seems that Kurds "love" Armenians as much as Turks do. You can get your United Kurdistan after we get our Western Armenia. By the way, this is Western + Eastern Armenia: http://www.geocities.com/master8885/Maps/map.jpg Welcome to the board, Medya, . Edited April 13, 2005 by shaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 It seems that Kurds "love" Armenians as much as Turks do. You can get your United Kurdistan after we get our Western Armenia. By the way, this is Western + Eastern Armenia: http://www.geocities.com/master8885/Maps/map.jpg Welcome to the board, Medya, . style_images/master/snapback.png Bad You, that is Armenia, and the rest in the West is Kurdistan... there is no Turkey. This way we can satisfy both Kurds and Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I really cant undrestand how you can compare Kurds and Turks? we kurds are the victim of the Turks... just because the map of kurdistan includes some part of the aremina then i should get lost ? that map shows where Kurds live. and i told you that i myself seen some movies about kurds who live in aremenia and even in azarbayjan.... ok i will get lost..i thought i can find some good aremenian freinds. but you didnt welcome me. bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) I really cant undrestand how you can compare Kurds and Turks? we kurds are the victim of the Turks... just because the map of kurdistan includes some part of the aremina then i should get lost ? that map shows where Kurds live. and i told you that i myself seen some movies about kurds who live in aremenia and even in azarbayjan.... ok i will get lost..i thought i can find some good aremenian freinds. but you didnt welcome me. bye style_images/master/snapback.png Had the Kurds no collaborated with the Ittihadists and being used as a liquidation tool against the Armenians, the Kurds would not be in this situation today. Here an Armenian proverb for you: "You [Kurds] are having us for breakfast, they [Turks] will have you for lunch." Edited April 13, 2005 by QueBeceR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 do you know anything about eezadis? style_images/master/snapback.png Hello Medya, Everyone knows about Ezdies in Armenia. Recently, there was a movie shot called "Lemon Vodka" and it got very popular. It was about a Ezdie-Armenian couple. Have you seen it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) Bad You, that is Armenia, and the rest in the West is Kurdistan... there is no Turkey. This way we can satisfy both Kurds and Armenians. style_images/master/snapback.png , good thinking. Medya, we are welcoming you. You must understand that historically Kurds weren't as receptive to Armenians as you. There are issues that must be settled between the two. Most Armenians a bit sensitive when it comes to things like this. Stay, observe, and converse. Better yet, learn. PS: You Armenians ought to stop driving people away. Take care, lest you might be mistaken for a Turk, . Edited April 13, 2005 by shaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) Had the Kurds no collaborated with the Ittihadists and being used as a liquidation tool against the Armenians, the Kurds would not be in this situation today. Here an Armenian proverb for you: "You [Kurds] are having us for breakfast, they [Turks] will have you for lunch." style_images/master/snapback.png I really dont belive it,,,I myself am a IRANIAN KURD. belive me in iranian kurdistan we love armenian... I searched in your forums...i found very offensive things against Kurds here... i really dont know why.. i dont konw may be some foolish muslem kurd in othman empire has attacked to aremenian ... the fact is, kurds have no power , so they can be BAD OR GOOOD...thats the turkish government that has had power and killed armeninan.. i dont know . if they did i am sorry . whatever...but I can feel that there are bad feelings about kurds in armenia... I wish i could see why....but whatever, as an iranina kurd, i think we kurds and aremeians can be loyal freinds... you should never forget that turks and arabs has killed millions of the Kurds...more than all of the aremenians that been killed. they used chemical weapons against Kurds... at least you have your own country , at least you can save your langauge but we cant even speak our language...we dont even has something called kurdistan. but how you can still attack to kurds, not every muslem nation is EVIL. kurds are muslem officialy but inofficcialy they dont belive in islam but you aremenians still think you hate kurds...ok i will leave you here alone... i just thought i can find some good freinds here ...as we have the same enemies Edited April 13, 2005 by medya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) We don't have problems with Kurds. As I said, there are certain (historical) issues that must be discussed. We have another Kurd on this forum, whom happens to be a Turkish Kurd, and a couple Iranians. Medya, the first Kurdish newspaper was established in Armenia (or so I have read), and is still running. In Armenia, Kurds have the right to preserve language, and culture. Edited April 13, 2005 by shaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 whatever...but I can feel that there are bad feelings about kurds in armenia... style_images/master/snapback.png That is not true Medya. There might be some negative attitude here and there but on the whole everything is very peaceful between Armenians and Kurds of Armenia. They are normal citizens and they share the same rights and responsibilities as all Armenia citizens. Their problems are the same as problems of Armenians population, mainly economic related. There have been couple of peaceful Kurdish demonstrations in Armenia and no one has stopped them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Dosty E Kurd - Khosh Amadi Be HyeForum Marz Of Ararat & Armavir HAve many Kurds that been ther for long time - in Vaghashapat - Echmiatsin Kurdz even have 2 Mullas - in ARmenia we are like Brothers - Kurds war next to us In Artsax (KArabagh) ........... we have had some Dark Days and some Happy Days just please don't post / or say - that you will gave pice of OUR land - Armenia is Armenia ...................... MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Everyone knows about Ezdies in Armenia. Recently, there was a movie shot called "Lemon Vodka" and it got very popular. It was about a Ezdie-Armenian couple. Have you seen it? wow really? I cant wait to see it ...is there any way i can see it? was it in armani language? or english or kurdish... are the eezadi Kurds allowed to speak their langage in armenia? can they study in their own language? I am so happy that I can hear it is true that Kurds exist in Armenia, i just read it in books.... you dont know sometimes it makes me cry... we are a divided nation.. I cant wait to see how kurds in aremina speak kurdish...anybody has any kurd freind in aremenia , that is available in internet and can speak englihs? I REALLY NEED TO SPEAK WITH A KURD IN AREMINAA...you can never feel me...i am crying right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Dosty E Kurd - Khosh Amadi Be HyeForum Marz Of Ararat & Armavir HAve many Kurds that been ther for long time - in Vaghashapat - Echmiatsin Kurdz even have 2 Mullas - in ARmenia we are like Brothers - Kurds war next to us In Artsax (KArabagh) ........... we have had some Dark Days and some Happy Days just please don't post / or say - that you will gave pice of OUR land - Armenia is Armenia ...................... MOvses style_images/master/snapback.png wow how did you learn that kurdish ? cool well i think the aremenian kurdistan is too small , i am sure , we wil never go in war with you for it...as long as the kurds in armenia can speak kurdish and study in it and be in freedom and equality , I myself as a kurd , will never want a war with armenia ... having a good ally like aremnia is better than having as mall part of kurdistan in our map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 wow really? I cant wait to see it ...is there any way i can see it? was it in armani language? or english or kurdish... are the eezadi Kurds allowed to speak their langage in armenia? can they study in their own language? I am so happy that I can hear it is true that Kurds exist in Armenia, i just read it in books.... you dont know sometimes it makes me cry... we are a divided nation.. I cant wait to see how kurds in aremina speak kurdish...anybody has any kurd freind in aremenia , that is available in internet and can speak englihs? I REALLY NEED TO SPEAK WITH A KURD IN AREMINAA...you can never feel me...i am crying right now style_images/master/snapback.png Here is a review: http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/v/vodka-lemon.shtml I am sure it will be translated into Kurdish. Actually the director is a Kurdish. Here is an article about them http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/0410-yezidi.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) Here is a review: http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/v/vodka-lemon.shtml I am sure it will be translated into Kurdish. Actually the director is a Kurdish. Here is an article about them http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/0410-yezidi.html style_images/master/snapback.png GREAT ! thanx for the link . can please tell me a bit about aremina's conditions ? do you have power and elcetricity everywhere? and also internet ...how modern aremenia is ? is aremenia's kurdistan as modern as other places? in turkey the kurdistan of turkey, they hardly have power of electricite... Edited April 13, 2005 by medya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) GREAT ! thanx for the link . cam please tell me a bit about aremina's conditions ? do you have power and elcetricity everywhere? and also internet ... in turkey the kurdistan of turkey, they hardly have power of electricite... how modern aremenia is ? style_images/master/snapback.png There is electricity in all major cities and villages. Although in villages there are some shortages still. There is internet in major cities like Yerevan, Gumri, Vanadzor etc. but it is not widely used. Lot of people don't have access. Economic is underdeveloped. Society is more developed than in Iran because Armenia is more democratic than Iran. Actaully, some Iranians choose to relocate to Armenia with their families because of this. Medya, as you might see in the article not all Yezdies view themselves as Kurdish. Also because many Yezdies where killed along with Armenians in 1915. Edited April 13, 2005 by Armen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Medya, as you might see in the article not all Yezdies view themselves as Kurdish. Also because many Yezdies where killed along with Armenians in 1915. style_images/master/snapback.png thanks for information well i know that even Kurd Muslems attacked to ezzedi Kurds and killed them... I myself think that Kurd Muslems are the Reason that Kurds dont have a country but that was the Old Generation of the Kurds who were muslem. if you come to kurdistan the new generation of the kurds dont belive in islam and feel shame what their anccesotrs did ... for example the foolish salahedin a kurd who fighted with christians.... i ask myself why a Kurd should fight for arabs against christiaans..while he didnt do anything for kurds... I agree with you ...that those mulsems were asshole. but historically eezzedis are zoorasterian and zoorasterian is a kurdish relligoin . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medya Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 do you know vigen ? he was a great aremnian singer in iran we kurds loved him....he passed away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 thanks for information well i know that even Kurd Muslems attacked to ezzedi Kurds and killed them... I myself think that Kurd Muslems are the Reason that Kurds dont have a country but that was the Old Generation of the Kurds who were muslem. if you come to kurdistan the new generation of the kurds dont belive in islam and feel shame what their anccesotrs did ... for example the foolish salahedin a kurd who fighted with christians.... i ask myself why a Kurd should fight for arabs against christiaans..while he didnt do anything for kurds... I agree with you ...that those mulsems were asshole. but historically eezzedis are zoorasterian and zoorasterian is a kurdish relligoin . style_images/master/snapback.png Welcome. I did not call Kurdish Muslems assholes actually. There has never been a organized Kurdish policy towards this or that state or nation because there wasen't a Kurdish state. Kurdish tribes were always tools in this or that state. It is interesting that you note that some Kurds reject Islam nowadays. Zoroasrianizm was the predominant religion in Armenia as well before Christianity. So, I wouldn't call it a Kurdish religion. I know that Ezdies are the ethnic kin of the Kurds but you can see that they were also alienated by the events in 1915. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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