Nakharar Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Not much I presume. It's just a ploy to dupe the Armenians. They will give a carrot or two to Turkey to ask for their forgiveness in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 STAATSCOURANT (DUTCH GOVERNMENT GAZETTE) NO. 17 Tuesday 25 January 2005 Armenian Auschwitz 'This God, to whom you want pray, does not exist. Where was he when the Jews in Poland had dig their own graves? Where was he when the Nazi's played with the skulls of Jewish children? If he exists and he has been silent, he is a murderer just like Hitler.' These are the words of Joseph Shapiro, main character from the novel The Penitent of Isaac Bashevis Singer. They are in fact also the words of Richard Rubinstein in his book entitled After Auschwitz: 'Auschwitz killed God'. This week, it is 60 years ago that the concentration camp Auschwitz was liberated. Was Auschwitz indeed that turning point in the mental history of humanity, about which Joseph Shapiro and Richard Rubinstein speak? The moment when the belief in God, and therewith the existence of God, was no longer justifiable? No matter how strange it may sound, I would like for this to be true. I would like that no earlier horrors of the same level as Auschwitz had taken place, by which God or a another human unifying universal faith would lose its credibility once and for all. But this is not so simple. This year is also the 'jubilee year' of another horror. This one took place not only almost 30 years before Auschwitz, but therefore also served as a model for Auschwitz. It was Hitler himself who in 1939, briefly before the bloody attack on Poland, made clear to his army commanders that Germany should not be afraid of world opinion. Because, he said, 'Wer redet heute noch von der Vernichtung der Armenier?' (Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?). How it is possible that, different from Auschwitz, the massacres of the Armenians, which were committed under command and responsibility of the Turkish government in the period of 191517, can still be denied by the perpetrator who continues to get away with it internationally? On 24 April 1915, thousands of Armenian politicians, priests and intellectuals were arrested in some large Turkish cities and were in part directly assassinated and in part deported. It was the start signal for the deportation and then eradication of the largest part of the Armenian population in the Turkish Empire. Of the two million Armenians living there, according to prominent historians certainly 1,200,000 died in concentration camps, by massacre or by starvation. In that process German diplomats and consultants were Turkey had chosen the side of Germany in the first World War I actively involved. The Turkish minister directly responsible for the Armenian Auschwitz, Talaat *****, did not make a particular secret out of it. As such he asked the American ambassador at that time, Henry Morgenthau, the following: 'I wish that you would get the American Life Insurance companies to send us a complete list of Armenian policy holders. They are practically all dead now and have left no heirs to collect the money. It of course all escheats to the state. The government is beneficiary now. Will you do so?' The request has not been granted. But the fact remains that numerous streets and squares of modern Turkish cities are named after Talaat *****. The fact is also that the EU talks with Turkey about accession without having required the recognition of her Auschwitz in advancee. I am deeply ashamed as an European. René F.W. Diekstra ------------------------------------- STAATSCOURANT (DUTCH GOVERNMENT GAZETTE) NO. 23 Wednesday, 2 February 2005 Members of Parliament condemn Armenian genocide By André Rouvoet In the Dutch Government Gazette of 25 January René Diekstra, under the title 'Armenian Auschwitz', wrote about the horrors of the Armenian Genocide. He rightly concludes that the EU will talk with Turkey about accession without requiring the recognition of her Auschwitz in advance. For that Diekstra is deeply ashamed as a European. I can imagine his feeling of shame well. Like Diekstra many factions in the House of Representatives were very disappointed about the lack of the requirement for the recognition of this Genocide by Turkey in the conclusions of the European Council of December 2004. Preceding that summit, many factions had expressly called for such a requirement. In the debate on the conclusions of the European summit, where much attention was given to the reached agreement with respect to the start of the negotiations with Turkey, I therefore introduced a motion in which the government is requested, within the framework of the intensive political and cultural dialogue, which will be conducted parallel to the accession negotiations with Turkey, to continuously and expressly raise the recognition of the Armenian genocide. Nevertheless, a (new) European Member State must be required to deal with its own history honestly. Minister Bot welcomed this motion, which was unanimously accepted by the House of Representatives. Unfortunately it is true that the House of Representatives cannot add the requirement of recognition to the conclusions of the European Council through a motion. Meanwhile, however, this parliamentary pronouncement is of great and fundamental significance. It is namely the first time that the Dutch House of Representatives explicitly speaks of 'the Armenian genocide'. Whereas the European Parliament has already done this, the term 'genocide' was so far always avoided in the Dutch parliament. The fact that the parliament has now unanimously sided with a motion in which the events of 1915 to 1917 are actually labelled as genocide and the fact that the Dutch government has also welcomed this motion is of great significance for the Armenian community world wide. Moreover, in the debate several spokesmen also referred to the massacres of the Assyrian people. Although the motion does not mention this issue, when asked, the Minister of Foreign Affairs insured me that he will interpret the motion in such a way that in this also the Assyrians are included. Therefore both horrors will be raised in the negotiations with Turkey. I am of the same opinion as Diekstra that justice must be done to the entire history. The acceptance of my motion has the chance that this will effectively happen in the coming time. Either way, it has been brought a little closer. The author is Chairman of the Christian Union faction in the House of Representatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 (edited) Rene Diekstra actually wrote two more articles in a regional paper called Tubantia from Twente where he regularly writes columns. He has been threatened by the Turkish community in Holland since his publiation of these two articles (maybe Siamanto can perform one of his miracles again ): Zaterdag 15 Januari 2005 Turkije's misdaad (Turkey's Crime) Door René Diekstra ,,Ik wil graag,'' zei Talaat, ,,dat u de Amerikaanse levensverzekeringsmaatschappijen er toe beweegt om ons een complete lijst te sturen van al hun Armeense polishouders. Ze zijn praktisch allemaal dood nu en er zijn geen erfgenamen meer om het geld te innen. Het vervalt daarom allemaal aan de staat. De regering is nu de begunstigde. Wilt dat doen?'' Dat was me te veel en ik verloor mijn zelfbeheersing. ,,U zult zo'n lijst niet van mij krijgen,'' zei ik, stond op en vertrok. Deze passage is afkomstig uit het boek dat de Amerikaanse ambassadeur in Turkije, Henry Morgenthau, in 1918 publiceerde, kort nadat hij naar de Verenigde Staten was teruggekeerd. Ze verwijst naar één van de ergste gruweldaden uit de vorige eeuw, in verschrikking eigenlijk alleen te vergelijken met de uitroeiing van de joden door de Nazi's. Maar er is een belangrijk verschil. Terwijl de natie die verantwoordelijk is voor de joodse holocaust, Duitsland, daarvoor de verantwoordelijkheid volledig op zich heeft genomen, heeft de natie die verantwoordelijk is voor die andere, de Armeense holocaust, namelijk Turkije, tot op de dag van vandaag geweigerd hetzelfde te doen. Dat roept een pijnlijke vraag op. Stel dat Duitsland tot nu toe steeds geweigerd had de door haar gepleegde uitroeiing van de joden toe te geven, zouden we dan met dat land in een Europese Gemeenschap willen zitten? De vraag stellen is haar beantwoorden. Hoe kunnen we het dan maken, zoals inmiddels al is besloten, om met Turkije over toetreding te gaan praten? Het antwoord luidt, vrees ik, dat morele overwegingen, zeg maar essentiële waarden, ondergeschikt zijn gemaakt aan politieke, economische en militair-strategische belangen. Dat gebeurt wel vaker. Maar het is wel bijzonder wrang dat deze verkwanseling van morele waarden juist is gebeurd onder het voorzitterschap van onze eigen minister-president, die zich afficheert als de grote waarden-en-normen voorvechter. Moreel gezien had hij, namens de EU, van Turkije moeten eisen dat zij haar verantwoordelijkheid voor de genocide op de Armeniërs, openlijk zou erkennen alvorens er überhaupt van gesprekken over toetreding sprake kon zijn. Blijkbaar zijn we er op dit punt in de afgelopen eeuw niet op vooruitgegaan. Want direct na de Eerste Wereldoorlog vond men wereldwijd dat Turkije hier niet mee weg mocht komen, getuige de reacties op een in verschillende opzichten hoogst opmerkelijke gebeurtenis op 15 maart 1921. In de Hardenbergstraat te Charlottenburg bij Berlijn, vermoordt een Armeense student, Teilirian genaamd, de gewezen Turkse staatsman Talaat *****, dezelfde waar Morgenthau het in de aangehaalde passage over had. De moordenaar wordt door een woedende menigte gegrepen, tot bloedens toe geslagen en aan de politie overgeleverd. Op 2 juni van dat jaar begint het proces tegen de dader. Daarin wordt ondubbelzinnig vastgesteld dat Teilirian, weliswaar zwaar getraumatiseerd, maar toch met voorbedachte rade, zijn slachtoffer om het leven heeft gebracht. De volgende dag al doet de Berlijnse rechtbank uitspraak: Teilirian wordt vrijgesproken. Door de hele wereld gaat een zucht van verlichting en het gevoel dat het recht heeft gezegevierd. Voor Teilirian zelf betekent de uitspraak niets minder dan een persoonlijke gedaanteverwisseling. Van een ontredderd, angstig, alles en iedereen wantrouwend wezen verandert hij in een persoon die weer vertrouwen in de wereld, in de toekomst en in zichzelf krijgt. Zijn slachtoffer was tijdens de Eerste Wereldoorlog minister van binnenlandse zaken van het Turkse Rijk geweest. Op zijn bevel was het vraagstuk van de daar wonende Armeniërs 'opgelost'. In 1915 werden de Turkse Armeniërs van hun bezittingen beroofd, uit hun woonplaatsen weggejaagd en in de meeste gevallen op beestachtige wijze afgeslacht of via uithongering, verwaarlozing of marteling om het leven gebracht. Niemand weet precies hoeveel het er zijn geweest, maar zeker is dat minstens 600.000 en mogelijk zelfs 1,5 miljoen Armeniërs zijn omgekomen. Bij een van de slachtpartijen was toen 16-jarige Teilirian met een geweerkolf neergeslagen. Doodgewaand had men later het zwaar verminkte lijk van zijn broer boven op hem gegooid. Twee dagen lang lag Teilirian onder het lichaam van zijn broer zonder zich te durven verroeren. In die tijd had hij talloze malen naar de wanhoopskreten van zijn zusters moeten luisteren die steeds weer op de meest walgelijke wijze werden verkracht en tenslotte in stukken gehakt. Als enige overlevende van zijn grote familie zwierf de jongen jaren door Perzië en Turkije, totdat hij ten slotte weer in zijn geboortestad terugkwam. Van de oorspronkelijk 20.000 Armeniërs daar waren er nog amper dertig in leven. Op een nacht, zo vertelde hij de rechtbank, was zijn moeder in een droom bij hem gekomen en had hem bevolen zich op de moordenaars te wreken. De vrijspraak van Teilirian is de eerste en tot nu toe enige keer dat aan een slachtoffer van de Armeense holocaust recht is gedaan. Stemmen tegen toetreding van Turkije zou wel eens de enige andere manier kunnen blijken om te zorgen dat het niet bij die ene keer blijft. ------- Zaterdag 29 Januari 2005 Naar Auschwitz via Istanbul (To Auschwitz via Istanbul) Door René Diekstra Er zijn nog altijd mensen, die de euvele moed hebben te ontkennen dat de nazi's miljoenen joden in concentratie-kampen hebben vermoord. Dat bleek deze week weer eens, nota bene in Duitsland, waar werd herdacht dat 60 jaar geleden het concentratiekamp Auschwitz werd bevrijd. De dodenteller van dat kamp is op 1.500.000 blijven staan. De Duitse regering en het overgrote deel van het Duitse volk schamen zich mateloos voor diegenen onder hen, die deze realiteit keihard ontkennen. 'Negationisten' worden ze genoemd. Met negationisten wil de moderne, democratische en weldenkende Duitser niets te maken hebben. En dat is ook de enige passende reactie. Maar hoe anders is de situatie ten aanzien van een andere gruweldaad van vrijwel dezelfde omvang als Auschwitz, waarvan dit jaar ook een 'jubileum' plaatsvindt. Op 24 april 1915 werden in enkele Turkse steden duizenden Armeense politici, geestelijken en intellectuelen opgepakt, voor een deel direct vermoord en voor een deel gedeporteerd. Het was het startsein voor de uitroeiing van het grootste deel van de Armeense bevolking in het Turkse rijk. Van de twee miljoen daar levende Armeniërs hebben er volgens vooraanstaande historici zeker 1.200.000 in concentratie-kampen, door slachtpartijen of door uithongering de dood gevonden. Dubieus Onlangs heb ik op deze plaats aandacht gevraagd voor dit Turkse Auschwitz. Aanleiding was het besluit van de EU om met Turkije gesprekken over toetreding te beginnen. Vanuit humanitair en moreel oogpunt een uiterst dubieus besluit. Achtereenvolgende Turkse regeringen, de huidige inbegrepen, hebben de massamoord op de Armeniërs altijd ontkend en ook het grootste deel van de Turkse bevolking doet dat. Dit Turkse 'negationisme' is even erg als het Duitse negationisme. Mijns inziens had de EU het standpunt moeten innemen dat er over toetreding tot de Unie niet te praten valt, voordat Turkije openlijk haar schuld en verantwoordelijkheid in deze erkent. Ik heb het geweten. Nauwelijks was mijn artikel in deze krant verschenen of het regende emails, vrijwel allemaal met, naar ik kan opmaken, afzenders met Turkse namen. De inhoud van de meeste daarvan liegt er niet om. Men maakt mij ofwel de meest heftige verwijten of begint gewoon grof te schelden. Een korte bloemlezing. 'Dit is weer zo'n aanval op de Islam, want u bent christen en de Armeniërs ook', 'U moet niet liegen, er heeft helemaal geen massamoord plaatsgevonden', 'Het is een grof schandaal dat u uw column in de krant misbruikt voor het verspreiden van dit soort anti-Turkse onzin'. Daarnaast ook verkapte bedreigingen, die ik hier niet zal herhalen. Ook de krant moest het ontgelden. 'Een grof schandaal, dat ze zo'n politiek-propagandistisch artikel heeft geplaatst'. Ik ga ervan voorlopig vanuit dat deze reacties niet de opvatting van de meerderheid van in Nederland levende mensen van Turkse afkomst weerspiegelen. Maar ze weerspiegelen helaas wel het officiële Turkse standpunt. Belangrijk Helaas, want in de 20 jaar dat ik me met het onderwerp bezig houd, is me duidelijk geworden dat het een standpunt tegen de feiten in is. Ook de parlementen van verschillende Europese landen, zoals Frankrijk in 2001 en sinds december 2004 ook Nederland, zijn inmiddels overtuigd van de gruwelijke waarheid van het Turkse Auschwitz. Het gaat om een belangrijke kwestie. Zo belangrijk dat het zelfs terecht zou zijn als wij in Nederland het aanstaande referendum over de Europese Grondwet zouden gebruiken om via een 'nee' duidelijk te maken dat geen gesprekken met Turkije mogen plaatsvinden alvorens ze haar negationisme opgeeft. Laat ik, naast wat ik eerder heb geschreven, nog twee redenen daarvoor noemen. Tijdens de Eerste Wereldoorlog koos Turkije de kant van Duitsland en Duitse diplomaten waren nauwkeurig op de hoogte van de wijze waarop de Turkse minister van binnenlandse zaken, Talaat *****, de uitroeiing van de [Hitler Armeniers via een speciaal daarvoor opgerichte organisatie liet uitvoeren. Er is reden om aan te nemen dat de genocide op de Armeniers daarmee model heeft gestaan voor die op joden. Sterker nog, het was Hitler zelf die in 1939, kort voor de bloedige aanval op de Polen, zijn legerbevelhebbers als volgt duidelijk maakte dat Duitsland van de wereldopinie niets te vrezen had. 'Wer redet heute noch,' zo zei hij, 'von der Vernichtung der Armenier?' De Nazi's hadden aan dat stilzwijgen zelf actief bijgedragen, bijvoorbeeld door boeken over de Armeense uitroeiing te verbieden (een situatie die in Turkije de facto nog bestaat). Ook anderzins speelde Duitsland in deze een dubieuze rol. Talaat ***** werd vanwege zijn rol in de Armeense genocide na de oorlog door een Turkse rechtbank bij verstek ter dood veroordeeld, maar kreeg politiek asiel in Duitsland. Overigens, de Turken zelf hebben die veroordeling nooit serieus genomen. Het was vooral bedoeld als een kniebuiging naar de geallieerde overwinnaars, zoals blijkt uit het volgende. In Istanbul is een mausoleum voor Talaat opgericht en doorheen Turkije zijn nog altijd straten en pleinen naar hem vernoemd. Anders gezegd, ook via Istanbul kun je in Auschwitz uitkomen. Edited February 14, 2005 by nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 (maybe Siamanto can perform one of his miracles again ): style_images/master/snapback.png nairi, What's the magic word? Abracadabra! Et voila! Saturday 15 January 2005 Turkije's crime (Turkey's crime) By René Diekstra , I want gladly, ' ' Talaat, said that you move the American life insurance societies to send us a complete list of already their Armenian polishouders. They are practically all dead now and there are no more heirs collect the money. For this reason it expires all to the state. The government is now the beneficiary. Wants that to do?' ' That was me too much and I lost my itself control. ,,U will not get such a list of me, ' ' I said, stood up and left. This passage comes from the book which published the American ambassador in Turkey, Henry Morgenthau, in 1918, briefly after he had returned to the United States. She refers to one of the most terrible atrocities from the previous century, in verschrikking to in fact only compare with the eradication of the Jews by the Nazi's. But there is an important difference. Whereas the nation which is responsible for the Jewish holocaust, has assumed Germany, for that the responsibility entirely, the nation which is responsible for those other has, the Armenian holocaust, namely do Turkey, up to on the day of today refused the same. That calls a painful question. Couple had so far always refused wants sit that Germany by its committed eradication of the Jews to admit, we then with that country in a European community? The question couples is its answers. How can we can make it then, as it to have meanwhile already decided, to concern and talk with Turkey accession? The answer sounds, fears I that but moral considerations say, essential values, subordinate has been made to political, economic and soldier-military-strategic interests. That happens more often. But it is particularly sour that this squandering of moral values has happened correctly under the chairmanship of our own minister-president, who posts itself as large waarden-en-normen a voorvechter. Morals had seen he, on behalf of the EU, of Turkey must require that she would recognise its responsibility for the genocide on the armeniërs, openly before überhaupt of conversations concerning accession talk could be. Apparently we have not progressed on this point in the previous century on. Because directly after the first world war found one worldwide that Turkey could not come, getuige the responses to a highest event remarkable in several respects on 15 March 1921. in the hardening mount street at Charlottenburg at Berlin, assassinate an Armenian student, Teilirian called, the former Turkish statesman Talaat *****, the same where Morgenthau had it in the quoted passage concerning. The assassin is seized by a raging mob, to bloedens beaten and to the police force handed over. On 2 June of that year the process starts against the dader. In this it is unambiguously determined that Teilirian have nevertheless brought, traumatised indeed heavily, but with intentionally rade, its victim for living. The next day already the Berlin court pronounces sentence: Teilirian are clearred. By the complete world a sigh of reduction and the feeling goes which the right has triumphed. For Teilirian themselves the pronouncement means nothing less than a personal transfiguration. Of upset, anxious, everything and everyone suspiciously being changes he in a person who trusts in the world, in the future and in itself gets. Its victim had been during the first world war minister of home affairs of the Turkish realm. On its command the question of the there living armeniërs ' had been solved '. In 1915, the Turkish armeniërs were deprived of their property, from their places of residence chased off and in most of the cases in a bestial manner massacred or by means of uithongering, verwaarlozing or torment for living brought. Nobody weet exactly how much it have been, but certain it is that at least 600,000 and 1.5 million armeniërs has possibly even perished. At of the slachtpartijen 16 person whose birthday it is Teilirian with geweerkolf had then fallen down. Doodgewaand one had later thrown the heavily mutilated lijk of its brother on top of him. For two days Teilirian under the body of its brother lay without move itself daring. In that time he innumerable grind to the wanhoopskreten of its sisters would have had listen who were violated always in the most repugnant manner and in pieces were finally chopped. As only survivor of its large family the boy roamed years by perzië and Turkey, until he returned at slotte in its birth city. Of the original 20,000 armeniërs were there still scarcely thirty live. On a night, this way told he the court, its mother had come revenge itself in a dream at him and him had ordered on the assassins. The acquittal of Teilirian is the first and so far only time that to a victim of the Armenian holocaust right has been done. Votes against accession of Turkey sometimes the only other manner is able appear ensure that it does not remain at that one time. ------- Saturday 29 January 2005 To auschwitz by means of Istanbul (To auschwitz by means of Istanbul) By René Diekstra There are still people, who have to euvele courage deny that the nazi's millions have assassinated Jews in concentratie-kampen. That proved to be these yielded again, note bene in Germany, where was commemorated that 60 years suffered the concentration camp auschwitz was delivered. The dead meter of that camp is on 1,500,000 continues stand. The German government and the major part of the German people are ashamed themselves immensely for those under them, which denies this reality rockly-hard. ' Negationisten ' they are called. With negationisten the modern, democratic and right-minded duitser wants nothing do has. And that is also the only appropriate response. But how differently the situation is with respect to another atrocity of nearly the same scope as auschwitz, of which this year also a ' jubilee ' takes place. Assassinated on 24 April 1915 in some Turkish cities thousands Armenian politicians, priests and intellectuals were taken up, partly directly and partly deported. It was the start signal for the eradication of the largest part of the Armenian population in the Turkish realm. Of the two millions there live armeniërs see through by it according to prominent historians certain 1,200,000 in concentratie-kampen, met end slachtpartijen or uithongering. Dubious Recently I on this attention have asked for this Turkish auschwitz. Reason was the decision of the EU with Turkey start conversations concerning accession. From humanitarian and moral point of view an extremely dubious decision. Consecutive Turkish governments, current included, have always denied the mass assassination on the armeniërs and also the largest part of the Turkish population does that. This Turkish ' negationisme ' are just as terrible as the German negationisme. In my opinion the EU the point of view would have had take that concerning accession to the Union be talked cannot, before Turkey recognises its debt and responsibility in these openly. I have the conscience. My Article in this newspaper had hardly appeared or it rained e-mails, nearly all with, to I can make up, shippers with Turkish names. The contents of the most of it lie there not for. One makes me or the most violent reproaches or starts ordinary grof scold. A short flower reading. ' this is such an attack on Islam, because you are Christian and the armeniërs also ', ' you does not have lie, no mass assassination has taken place ', ' it is grof scandal that you your column in the newspaper for spreading this type anti-Turkse nonsense abused '. Moreover also veiled threats, which I will not repeat here. Also the newspaper had pay for it. ' grof scandal, which them such a politically-policy-political-propagandist Article has placed '. I do not will reflect of it provisionally from that these responses the conception of the majority of in the Netherlands live people of Turkish source. But they reflect unfortunately the official Turkish point of view. Important Unfortunately, because in the 20 years that I keep myself with the subject busy, me has become clear that it a point of view is against the facts in. Also the parliaments of several European countries, such as France in 2001, and since December 2004 also the Netherlands, have been meanwhile persuaded of atrocious truth of the Turkish auschwitz. It concerns an important question. This way important that it would be even correct if we would use in the Netherlands the pleasing referendum concerning the European constitution by means of ' no ' clear to make that no conversations with Turkey to be possible take place before them its negationisme give up. I leave, beside what I rather has written, reasons still two for that call. During the first world war Turkey chose the side of Germany and German diplomats were informed precise of the way in which the Turkish minister of home affairs, Talaat *****, the eradication of [ the Hitler Armeniers by means of a special for that established organisation let carry out. Intention reason that the genocide on the Armeniers with that model has has been stood which on Jews. More strongly still, Hitler themselves were which is in 1939, briefly for the bloody attack on Poland, legerbevelhebbers as follows clear made that Germany of the world opinion nothing to fear had. ' Wer nor, ' this way said to redet heute he, ' von of the Vernichtung of the Armenier?' The Nazi's had contributed actively to that dumbness himself, for example by booking concerning the Armenian eradication to prohibit (a situation which exists in Turkey de facto still). Also anderzins played Germany in these a dubious role. Talaat ***** were condemned because of its role in the Armenian genocide after the war by a Turkish court at contumacy for the dead, but got political asylum in Germany. Moreover, the Turks themselves that condemnation never have seriously taken. It had been especially meant as a knee inflection to the allied victors, such as becomes clear from the following. In Istanbul a mausoleum for Talaat has been set up and doorheen Turkey still streets and squares have been named after to him. Differently said, also by means of Istanbul you can end up in auschwitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Greek ReporterMarch 4 2021 Greek, Armenian Genocide Recognized by the Netherlands ByTasos KokkinidisMarch 4, 2021 Greek, Armenian and Syriac genocide committed by the Ottoman Empire in the beginning of the 20th century were recognized by the Netherlands earlier in the week.The move follows the overwhelming adoption by the Dutch parliament of a resolution noting that the government “still does not recognize the Armenian genocide of 1915 [perpetrated] by the Ottoman Empire (in which also the Arameans, Assyrians, and the Pontic Greeks were victims).”The resolution stated that “there is more urgency than ever for countries to clearly speak out about the past in order to advance reconciliation and prevent repetition in the future.”The genocide of 1915 was committed by the Ottoman Turks and Kurds against the Syriac people and occurred parallel to the genocides of Armenians and Greeks, which was not only reduced to the region of Pontus, but all Greeks in the Ottoman Empire.The resolution said that 1.5 million Armenians, more than 300,000 Pontic Greeks, and up to another 700,000 other Greeks, as well as 300,000 of the region’s estimated 700,000 Syriacs (Assyrians-Chaldeans-Arameans) were massacred. Turkey condemns decisionTurkey condemned the decision of the Dutch parliament calling it null and void.Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hami Aksoy said the decision is a null attempt to rewrite history with political motives.“Councils are not venues to write history and trial it. Those who agree with this decision, instead of looking for what actually happened in 1915, are after votes as a populist,” Aksoy said.He said the Dutch House of Representatives is detached from reality as it has frequently been in recent years.Aksoy invited the Dutch government to wage a struggle against racism, Islamophobia and xenophobia rather than taking decisions against Turkey. Genocide a dark page in Greek historyEvery year on May 19 Pontic Greeks commemorate one of the darkest pages in Hellenic history, as the date will forever be connected to the genocide of their ancestors at the hands of the Turks.The Pontic Genocide cost 353,000 lives, while even more lost their homes and generations of wealth in the Pontus (Black Sea) region, and then were forced to emigrate to other places to begin their lives all over again.Pontian Greeks had an ancient history in the area, going as far back as 800 BC.The very first colonists in the Black Sea area were merchants from the Ionian Greek city-state of Miletus. They flourished during the time of the Byzantine Empire.The persecution of the Pontic population, along with other Christian Greeks living n Ottoman lands, began in 1908.The Turks, on the pretext of “national security,” displaced most of the Greek population by burning entire villages, either slaying those who resisted or chasing them off their ancestral lands. Greek civilians from Pontus flee their homes during the genocide. Public domain https://greekreporter.com/2021/03/04/greek-armenian-genocide-recognized-by-the-netherlands/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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