Sip Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 http://beta.search.msn.com It's still in beta mode but available to the public now. With this, Microsoft is going directly after google ... we'll have to wait and see what'll happen but this is sure to be fun to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Oh and yes, they seemed to have indexed this place as well! But they seem to be favoring the "armenianmp3.com" domain to the hyeforum.com domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 www.armenianmp3.com/forum or rabiz.com/forum was HyeForum at one time now each .com has it's owne server now - i need to add hyeforum to all of our .com's and to most of the pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 well well, i suppose it's just a beta. but currently it's off-line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 When Hyeforum becomes in the top 100 of the home@folding stat list, you'll find any search engines preffering it over any other Armenian page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 wow this thing is super fast. i can actually feel the difference between google and this one. not that much but it's noticable. but i guess when they continue indexing millions of pages it will come to be about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) They were saying Microsoft already has something like 5 billion pages indexed. Google's is said to be somewhere around 8 billion. Edit: I think the winner is not going to be who indexes most, but who manages to stay most up to date and relevant. Of course google has the advantage of having been around for much longer and is much better known. There have been quite a few academic papers recently published that discuss the short comings of google's pagerank algorithm. So there is definitely room to improve on google Edited November 12, 2004 by Seapahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 wow it's fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest abcdefghijkl Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 What a dire search engine! It is worse than useless. It seems to ignore entirely any information within the “description” and “keywords” metatags of webpages, as well as ignoring the actual titles of pages! OK, as a test, I searched for pages that I know exist (since I made them!), and that I know Google and other search engines have listed. Search for the painter Arshak Fetvadjian – nothing, except a link to the topic on this forum where he was discussed. I searched for “VirtualAni” – and found 256 links (Google has 2480!). ALL of the links on MSN are to websites that mention of Virtualani - not a single link is to the actual website VirtualAni! And of those other links, many of which I have never heard of, I spotted several to long defunct message boards (The engine seems to like listing messageboards), showing that MSN’s listing is often well out of date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmEngine Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 http://beta.search.msn.com It's still in beta mode but available to the public now. With this, Microsoft is going directly after google ... we'll have to wait and see what'll happen but this is sure to be fun to watch! style_images/master/snapback.png Desktop search engines threaten SSL VPN security By Tim Greene Network World, 11/15/04 New PC indexing tools such as Google Desktop Search pose security risks to businesses that use SSL remote access because the tools copy material accessed during SSL sessions and make it available to unauthorized people who later use the same PC. Caches created by PC search tools get around security many SSL vendors have put in place to purge cached data from remote machines as secure sessions shut down. These so-called cache-cleaning agents wipe out temporary files created during SSL sessions, but they don't wipe out the copies made by the search tools. "You could end up caching and indexing files you don't want cached and indexed on machines outside your control," says Dan Harman, remote access administrator for real estate developer Lewis Group in Upland, Calif., which uses SSL remote-access gear made by Whale Communications. One touted benefit of SSL remote-access technology is that any machine with a Web browser can be used to access a corporate network securely. The downside is that the PCs might not be owned by the corporation, so any number of unauthorized users could have access to them. "This tends to negate user authentication," says Rick Fleming, CTO of Digital Defense, a vulnerability assessment company. Besides Google's product, such search engines are made by Blinkx, Copernic, ISYS Search Software and X1. Yahoo and Microsoft are said to be on the verge of having them, too. SSL VPN vendor Aventail says its Secure Desktop, a virtual desktop for SSL sessions that is destroyed when the session closes, prevents files downloaded during the session from being viewed by Google Desktop Search. To solve the problem for its customers, Whale has a software upgrade that detects whether Google Desktop Search is running on a remote PC. If so, access to the corporate network is denied or restricted. The company is developing similar upgrades to address nine other desktop search engines, says Whale CTO Noam Ben-Yochanan. Google Desktop Search makes it easier to find data on PC hard drives and doesn't address these security concerns, a Google spokesman says. Customers can manually turn off Desktop Search or put it on pause during SSL remote-access sessions to avoid having the sessions cached by the search engine, he says. Ben-Yochanan says he installed Google Desktop Search on a PC, opened an e-mail attachment, altered the document, sent it as an attachment then deleted the file from the hard drive. Desktop Search retained a copy of the original attachment and the modified version. Fleming says such tools pose similar threats to shared PCs on corporate LANs. So a person working the 4 p.m.-to-midnight shift could access all the data accessed by the person working the 8 a.m.-to-4 p.m. shift, including personal human resources data or Internet banking information, he says. Similarly, if a network administrator uses a random desktop to reconfigure a firewall, a desktop search engine will record those settings and the password used to gain access, Fleming says. It also makes it easier for attackers to search machines they have taken over, says Fred Felman, vice president of marketing for Zone Labs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Very interesting ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmEngine Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Very interesting ... style_images/master/snapback.png Yup There is no free lunch. Google is trying to take over desktop from Microsoft perhaps bigger threat to Microsoft dominance then Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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