America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 When my ex-wife told her mother that she was struggling with bisexual feelings, her mother told her. "Mer meche asang pan chega." I don't want to know! Interesting that this mother is a prominent Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 So sorry to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) My godmother and cousin is also the godmother to the children of a few of her prominent friends and business associates. She considers these odars her godchildren, but tries desperately to forget that I am her first godchild and blood relative. This is a woman who rubs elbows with Republican Presidents, just as my former mother-in-law does. Edited October 16, 2004 by America-Hye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Khodja, What yur mother-in-law said is not unusual from a generatonal point of view. What is truly astounding is that your wife had the courage to say that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Hagarag, Are you circumcized? Don't answer. I suggest that you go under the knife again except that this time have Kojak as your surgeon. In one of his episodes when he was dealing with a rapist he wished that he were given the permission to act as a drunken Rabbi at a circumcision event. Radical!!! That will solve your problem. That way you would not have to extent your "ostrich" neck, be it above or below the belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Boghos, Other than the minor differential, she is a carbon copy of her mother, a "bosh boghas." My ex-wife learned to be outspoken from emulating her mother. How many Armenian women do you know who are active in Republican politics (or Democrat politics for that matter) to the extent that my ex-mother-in law is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Arpa, Rapist? I have only had sexual relations with my ex-wife for the last 22 years. Nothing else except during my marriage to her. You just confirm how INSANE the Armenian community is on this issue. I suspect that the murder of Joshua Haglund wil blow this issue into the international media and bring the Armenian power-structure face-to-face with their handling of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 In the western Armenian conmmunity where my parents were from, many of the Armenians were "Turka-khosk," so I do not know the diffference between Armenian and Turkish phrases. They would also throw in some French and German words in family conversations, so I sometimes throw in these words also. Armenian school did not correct this, because I had learned Armenian before going to Armenian school and that way of speaking comes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Arpa, Rapist? I have only had sexual relations with my ex-wife for the last 22 years. Nothing else except during my marriage to her. You just confirm how INSANE the Armenian community is on this issue. I suspect that the murder of Joshua Haglund wil blow this issue into the international media and bring the Armenian power-structure face-to-face with their handling of this. style_images/master/snapback.png As I have alway suspected you don't even know how to read English. What I had suggested was that you have a radical surgery that way you would be neither a mono-, bi- or multi-. Do you know ehat a eunuch is? The Armenian word for it is "nerqini" As far as Joshua is concerned, he is now in a position to restart the Battle of Jericho. Do you know Negro Spirituals? "Joshua fit the battle o' Jericho, Jericho, Jericho, Jerichoooo. Joshua fit da battle o' Jericho, and the walls came tumbling down". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 You sound like a Turk, who would say that after they killed Armenians that they would be back with their Jesus. I suspect that you think that Haglund was asking to be murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) You sound like a Turk, who would say that after they killed Armenians that they would be back with their Jesus. I suspect that you think that Haglund was asking to be murdered. style_images/master/snapback.png I give up! I don't understand you. Just as you seem to not understand me. You have one track mind, and it seems your mind is below your belt. Has it ever occurred to you that Joshua may have met his fate for having suggested/molested somebody's child? I am not totally unfamiliar of the phenomenon as we, during our earlier years in those parts of the world would have to ward off many a pedophile. Many may have cuccumbed. Even if you may not have lived in those parts of the world, have you succumbed, been victimized? This is getting too graphic and I don't wish to continue except that I may suggest that you take your below the belt "ostrich neck" and stick it in your ®ear. I will not respond anymore. You can harp on your "neck" from here to the days of Onan(ism). You and Ara B. would make perfect partners as it seems you are both expertly perverted virtual virginal singles well versed in the art mentioned above and wear eyeglasses tinted with such a rectal view of the world. Yada, yada, yada!!! Edited October 16, 2004 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Whatever the facts are should be brought into view. I think that you are jumping to conclusions. The facts of the case show that Haglund was sharing a bottle of wine with his killers. If your child had been molested, would you share a bottle of wine with your child's molester? My father did not kill the priest that molested me. He just left the Catholic church and raised us as Protestants. My mother went through a lifetime of turmoil knowing that this had occured, since she loved her church so much. I do not think that the experience determined what I am, but that he priest sensed something there before he made his move. Arpa, I am no more or less sexual than anyone else. Your prejudices are cloulding your perceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) America-Hye I am 100% with you on this. Facts should be brought out. But only facts. Please name names. If a priest molested you please state his name. Show us proof. Did you file an official complaint. Did you put your name on the list of the 1000s that are suing the Catholic church. If not then I do not believe you and don't post empty stuff. If you did please list the name of that priest so that I too can go and spit on the face of that priest. If this is true, shame on your father. He was an very very bad person and a horrible father for not taking care of his kids. I would have KILLED the SOB who even puts a finger on my kids. Edited October 17, 2004 by Azat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 I would have KILLED the SOB who even puts a finger on my kids. style_images/master/snapback.png We think alike Azat jan. Eventhough I'm not a proponent of vigilantiism, I think i'd lose complete control under these kinds of circumstances. A case in Canada a few years back involved a father who badly beat his son's abuser (the bus driver). The father received more jail time than the sexual predator! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 When my ex-wife told her mother that she was struggling with bisexual feelings, her mother told her. "Mer meche asang pan chega." I don't want to know! Interesting that this mother is a prominent Republican. My godmother and cousin is also the godmother to the children of a few of her prominent friends and business associates. She considers these odars her godchildren, but tries desperately to forget that I am her first godchild and blood relative. This is a woman who rubs elbows with Republican Presidents, just as my former mother-in-law does. etc. etc. STOP THE WAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Azat, I have already stated, buried in the archives of this forum exactly where the molestation occurred. Quite honestly, I was very young and do not remember the priest's name, but I do remember his face. In any case, he was about 30 years old at the time, which would which would make him well over 80 now, if he is still living. Azat, you do not understand how difficult it is for persons who have been abused to come forward. When I was having stress problems, my Armenian doctor sent me to an odar psychologist friend of his. I opened up to the psychologist and told him what had happened. He must have consulted with the doctor because after that my doctor treated me like a leper. My doctor was a Armenian Catholic married to an odar Roman Catholic. Read the interviews with Attorney Mitchell Garabedian of Boston and you will see how many of us do not come forward. My father was traumatized by the Genocide. He lost his Dad and his identity to become a hammal in Paris. He had lived with the monks for a while shortly after the Genocide while his mother was dealing with "mental problems." How dare you judge my father? In any case, I would not come forward because I don't want to be tainted by notoriety. I could no longer go to work or anywhere else with my head high. I would always be marked if I ever came forward. You do not understand the power of the Catholic Church. Have you read about the recent situation in the monastery in Austria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) There are thousands that have come forward. Thousands... I guess you by not coming out, either were never abused or are supporting their actions to continue to abuse kids as you are not willing to do anything about it. About your father... I have never held a gun or even been in a physical fight as an adult, but I know I would go nuts and hurt the abuser. Your dad chose to berry his head in the sand. Actually the main reason why I do not believe your story is because I do not think your dad who was a genocide survivor would not do anything about it. No Armenian father would just say "really? that happened to you son? okay guess we will go to another church." I just dont. Edited October 17, 2004 by Azat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 I would have KILLED the SOB who even puts a finger on my kids. style_images/master/snapback.png I thought you were against death penality. I don't believe him, why should I after all the stories he made about myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Keep up the entertainment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) What a fool I have been all these years sending money to Armenian organizations. Back I go into the odar morass. You will all be no help to me but only work to put me into an early grave, one way or the other. Since I know Armenian, perhaps I can find some odar organization which works to let me live by working against the Armenian establishment. "***" I say to the Armenian community. Edited for language by nairi Edited October 17, 2004 by nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Yes, please look at online communities and decide on your charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) What a fool I have been all these years sending money to Armenian organizations. Back I go into the odar morass. You will all be no help to me but only work to put me into an early grave, one way or the other. Since I know Armenian, perhaps I can find some odar organization which works to let me live by working against the Armenian establishment. "***" I say to the Armenian community. style_images/master/snapback.png I think your last line worth a warning(if not that, the PM you sent me worth one). And I advise you that I have blocked you and you can't sent any more messages to me after what you have sent. I hope you find a psychiatrist that could treat you. This is the last time I am replying you or any of your threads. Edited according to AH's post by nairi Edited October 17, 2004 by nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Here's my point of view on all this crap: on both sides, please cut out the crap. Domino et. al. either stay away from AH or quit attacking him on all sides, and AH no more ill-wishes, false accusations and profanity. Please. I hope you can all work out your differences and be part of a normal, functioning forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 What a fool I have been all these years sending money to Armenian organizations. Back I go into the odar morass. You will all be no help to me but only work to put me into an early grave, one way or the other. Since I know Armenian, perhaps I can find some odar organization which works to let me live by working against the Armenian establishment. "***" I say to the Armenian community. Edited for language by nairi style_images/master/snapback.png I guess since you are not willing to do anything about it but to run you lead me to believe that nothing has happened to you in terms of the abuse or anything. You are simply an attention whore in my mind. You want people to respond to your comments. good or bad do not matter as long as you get attention. Now that that is clear we can continue this and other conversations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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