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Welcome Nanor Nice work you have there!

Hey hey hey! Is it really Sip's birthday??? woo hoo! Happy Big 3-Oh buddy! Bari taredarts! Hope you're life continues to be one long buffet

Vergine you're being a jerk again. Need I remind you??

Bari Taredarts Armen jan!

Rare, or medium? :) actually so far this summer the weather's been quite pleasant up here, only a couple of ultra humid days...

Why does this thread keep going back to the Amelikites????

Don't want to incite anything, but.... Audio - Rush Limbaugh: This is a gift to the world Source: From this post Finally, World War III is he here, but let's stop stalling it: Good ol' Newt Gingrich Who are these crazed warmongers?? And why is the US administration listening to them?

There are terrorist who target civilians on both sides. The primary victims of this war are the Lebanese civilians - both at the hands of the over-reactionary Isreali forces, and through the lack of forethought by the Hezbollah and their high-risk strategy of creating war on Lebanese soil from largely civilian centres. If the Hezbollah leadership had any concern as to the safety and well-being of the Lebanese citizenery, their approach would have been different. They either made a major miscalculation (that Israel woudn't retaliate), OR, for them, the Lebanese population are simply pawns to be sacrificed in this 'game' of politics.

Of course not! We're probably just jaded, or maybe the question has been asked before (maybe), who knows? But please don't get offended. We're really nice people (well, most of us) - just watch out for Sip, he'll eat you out of house and home

Edo jan, "SS"??

But isn't that what marriage means?

I am in thorough agreement.

For the record, I was referring to the Amelekites story. As to the establishment of a jewish state, I ws under the impression that much of that came about as a result of bungled british colonialism of the era, culminating in the Balfour declaration in 1917- behind which were not just traditional Zionists like Herzl or Weissman, but Christian, and even anti-semetic european influencers as well. Why palestine? Well, I suppose it's because the British controlled it at the time.... as for the jews, I believe they would have accepted any state. But that's a moot point; would it have been any better had they been granted a state anywhere else? Cypress, for example? I don't think 'misery' can be avoided in these kinds of things, unfortunately. Let's at least try and look to the future or be minimally pragmatic: Peace can only be achieved from within - it cannot be imposed by force, else it will merely be transient. The Palestinians and their allies must reign-in their extremist elements, and establish a true authority that not only has credibility amongst the people, but recognises that peace can only be accomplished through co-existance. The Isreali people in turn must also reign-in their extremist factions; they must demand their governement to make true concessions to Palestinian peoples - concessions that will allow Palestine to grow into and economically viable, self-sufficient nation. Properity will lead to moderation & long-term peace. This is the only path that has any chance of success - sure there'll be bumps, but both nations will have to walk that path together. Granted, the above doesn't much concern Lebanon - apart from the interwined relations/objectives of the Hesbollah and Palestinian 'freedom fighters'.

Only some sources consider Armenians as Amelakites - regardless, whether it's true or not has little bearing. This stuff is thousands of years old, are you trying to tell me that a 'story' from the Old testament (in Deuteronomy, no less) is actually relevant to the conflict that's currently ongoing?

You're entitled to your opinion. I, for one, have a problem with "supporting" either side of the useless, god-forsaken war. The only victims here are the poor Lebanese civilians, who have somehow become the targets of the terrorists on BOTH sides.

Give it up vergine, Despite whatever you try and copy-paste here, no one here is buying it. So what if Yair Auron says that the jews traditional thought of Armenians as Amalekites - who cares? Your entire (long) post was completely irrelevant here, plus, many of the links were not working. I removed it.

I found the article this is taken from: Sydney Morning Herald in Australia.... certainly bad PR for Isreal (and a chilling image to say the least)

I would guess it's cause many of them aren't married (yet, perhaps!) As for me, I hitched up not too long ago - although it does seem like an eternity

Sounds like your cousins are like my cousins

The Life of a Bush Pilot

4568/657 for me. I've always been satisfied with my ISPs speed. Their tech support on the other hand is another issue.

Ruben, please don't take the words of one hot-head so seriously. Vergin's political viewpoint is notorious and as a result has been the recipient of several warnings. Within any discussion you'll have those leaning towards one side or another - what's important here is that everyone realises that what is happening on the ground (or air fopr that matter) has nothing to do with the personalities on this board.

As soon as a group begins attacking civilians, in my mind they are terrorrists. The IDF are terrorists, as are Hesbollah. Neither side has any moral ground in this war.