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quote:Originally posted by Sip:Uremen sushin el arden junk food darav? iyo seaphan jan iyo

quote:Originally posted by Sip:Hahahahah! I hear worms are very high in protein One time, in Vegas, my brother and I ate SO much at the buffet, that we couldn't walk back to our room. This was at the Alladin ... we started with sea food, worked our way to chineese food, had some mediteranian kabob, and then to top it off had some itallian pizza and pasta. Of course we also had some deserts but right now, I can't really remember that part too much. I do remember at some point he and I were just sitting at the table with spoons full of pie and just looking at each other in disgust!!! Anyway, we somehow stumbled back to the room (everyone on the way thought we were dead drunk) ... and we both passed out on the beds. I think I was passed out for about 5 or 6 hours. After I got up, I was completely dehydrated ... I just love all-you-can-eat buffets smilies/thumbup.gif Note to self - get extra 20lbs of reebs b4 inviting seaphan for BBQ. MOvses

quote:Originally posted by Azat:Oh ya, and when I use to eat meat I use to LOVE In and Out Burgers and Fat Burgers. hmmmmmm I still think about In and Out Azat jan muys amis yerb hajord In and out utelus jamanak@ ga achqis vra mi hat 2X2 qo patvin amis@ 4 angam em janq food utum 1 hat chinakan - mi hat in and out mi hat Clame jumpers - mi hat sushi kam et tesak mi ban yev havata bavakanin mets tarbnerutyun ka arorjutyan@s mej.

12.07.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian brewers will take part in the beer festival in Moscow July 21. Production of 30 leading breweries of Russia as well as Armenia, Germany, Denmark and Ukraine will be presented at the fourth festival. Within the festival framework, the competition of people public testing for "Best light", "Best dark", "Best classic", "Best original", "Best special", "Best foreign", etc. will take place. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

Still a year ago the president of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly (PACE) Lord Russell-Johnston announced during a visit to Armenia that it was high time to shift the Nagorno Karabagh conflict regulation process from the OSCE Minsk group format to that of the Council of Europe. The announcement had the effect of an exploded bomb in both Armenia and Azerbaijan, but despite it PACE decided to dispatch a monitoring team to the conflict zone, it also appointed a special rapporteur, who was supposed to draft a report that would later decide how the Karabagh conflict would be perceived in Europe. We would also like to recall that during a visit to Baku, Russell Johnston was reported to have come up with several pro-Azerbaijani statements, and though part of those statement later turned out to be distortion of facts buy the Azerbaijani press, they, however, created a certain background. The announcements, appointment of a rapporteur, the last week visit to Yerevan by the Council of Europe secretary general Walter Schwimmer, all these facts come to say that that the Council of Europe would not object to taking up the regulation of the long-running conflict in its hands. On the one hand it can be regarded as a normal strive of the most respected European human rights body to end the conflict between the two neighbor nations, and on the other hand Council of Europe my become a serious European platform for Azerbaijan and Armenia to lobby their interests, but there are no signs that one or the other are eager to take advantage of it. Especially Azerbaijan, which has taken a set of such actions recently that have actually destroyed the fragile pyramid built until now. Azerbaijan refused to let in the rapporteur of the monitoring team and furthermore, it demanded that he be replaced. One can only guess what Azerbaijan wanted to conceal from the rapporteur, but this fact comes to prove that in terms of fulfilling its obligations towards the Council of Europe Azerbaijan is behind its rival neighbor. There is some information indicating that the Azeri authorities’ announcements that they have released political prisoners do not correspond to reality. Despite these noisy facts the Council of Europe is tolerant to Aliyev’s ruling and refrains from imposing sanctions. It calls on Baku to start a dialogue on the plight of political prisoners, but there has not been any reaction yet. What would come next is of secondary importance for us. The main focus should be placed on taking advantage from the mistakes committed by Azerbaijan. Armenia and Azerbaijan are viewed by Europe as a whole Caucasian region and the main task should be to make a breakthrough in this perception by demonstrating that Armenia in all respects is closer to European standards than Azerbaijan. The visit by Schwimmer to Yerevan was the best chance for it, but the Armenian parliament does not seem to be ready to realize and to adopt a new approach to this issue. During a meeting with Walter Schwimmer the opposition parliament members were talking about electoral fraud in the latest election, low rating of president Kocharian, but the sound forces, sitting by their side, were keeping silent. It was important for the parliament itself, to create such a climate that would help the Council of Europe to understand why the issue of death penalty abolition is so sensitive in Armenia, which, in any case, is a smaller constraint against the overall political background in Azerbaijan. If these political forces do not strive and even do not understand the extent of the responsibility to prevent an imminent clash between the demands of Armenia’s public and the Council of Europe, they will not have any moral right to criticize the work of Armenian delegation in the Council of Europe, accusing it of failing to lobby Armenia’s vital interests there. By Gor Abrahamian © Copyright AZG

Armenian state revenues ministry has destroyed today the second batch of smuggled cigarettes and illegally produced strong alcoholic drinks. Some 5,500 packs of smuggled cigarettes and 5,200 bottles of strong alcoholic drinks, produced illegally in Armenia have been destroyed at the city's dump, Armenpress reported. http://www.azg.am/IMAGE/200213002.jpg The goods were confiscated from 127 business entities, engaged mainly in small trade, each of them was fined in the amount of 100,000 to 300,000 Drams (approximately from $200 to $600). The massive destruction of smuggled and illegally produced goods is set to defend the interest of law-abiding businessmen. © Copyright AZG

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this MSN video and voice conversation is cool i love it MOvses [ July 11, 2002, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

quote:Originally posted by Arpa:Sip, are you really Armenian? Then how do you expalin the fact that your Adamakan Khndzor is more prominent than your nose? Or is that another fascecious myth? Oops! How much jail time do I get for this comment?!!! Arpa jan / i do not see a big Adamakan Khndzor on seaphan but his nose is more prominent than his Adamakan Khndzor http://home.earthlink.net/~Sip/images/personal/rome_thirsty.jpg

seaphan jan his referring to your Adams apple

MEMORANDUM ON ESTABLISHMENT OF SOUTH CAUCASIAN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COUNCIL SIGNED IN LONDON 09.07.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Memorandum on cooperation and establishment of the South Caucasian intergovernmental council was signed in London the other day. Armenian National Assembly vice speaker Tigran Torosian has stated that reviewing the meeting of the parliamentary delegations of Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan 27 June-1 July. According to him, the memorandum states the readiness for the cooperation of the parliaments of the three countries, importance of strengthening of democracy in the region and need to settle the present issue, strengthening the values common to all mankind. Torosian reported the Council would include delegations consisting of ten members, three of which will be permanent and the others elective. As the RA NA vice speaker noted, the decisions passed by the Council would not be compulsory for the parliaments but might become a basis for making corresponding steps by every country. According to Torosian, the next meeting of the parliamentarians will take place in fall 2002 and will be dedicated to the integration of the parliaments of the South Caucasian countries in Europe. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

09.07.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Today in Armenian town Ararat, Memorial to victims of the September 11 terrorist acts in New York was unveiled. The memorial made in symbolic style is two high plates representing towers of the New York trade center, with the eternity symbol on top. According to the Ararat town authorities, "The memorial is built on a public basis that is an evidence of the sincere sympathy with the American people as Armenians are familiar perfectly with the horrors of genocide and sufferings". The location of the memorial is also nonrandom – near the memorial to the 1915 Armenian genocide victims. The US Ambassador to Armenia John Ordway expressed gratitude to the Ararat town authorities for sympathy. The diplomat expressed confidence that the Memorial would become the symbol of friendship of Armenian and American people. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

"BBC" WORLD RADIO SERVICE TO START BROADCASTING IN ARMENIA 09.07.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ "BBC" world radio service will start broadcasting in Armenia. Every day 9 a.m. local time, the "BBC" news in Russian will be broadcasted on "Impulse" radio. According to the "Impulse" radio producer Gurgen Khumarian, the information will have regional nature, that is to say, news concerning the events in the countries of the South Caucasus and Asia. Khumarian reported the right to broadcast "BBC" in Armenia has stipulated with the license given for a year. He noted the signing of intergovernmental agreement between Armenia and the Great Britain is possible, if it is necessary. In his turn, British Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to Armenia Timothy Jones has expressed satisfaction in connection with the beginning of the "BBC" broadcasting in Yerevan. "We attach special importance to the integration of the world radio service in the public life of Britain and other countries", stated Jones. The Ambassador expressed regret at that the news would be broadcasted in Russian and not Armenian because of financial problems. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

Argentina Celebrates Nalbandian's 2nd Place UNQUILLO, Argentina (Reuters)—Argentina was left celebrating the performance of tennis player David Nalbandian on Sunday despite his crushing defeat by Australian Lleyton Hewitt in the Wimbledon final. Hewitt, the world number one, overwhelmed Nalbandian 6-1 6-3 6-2 to win his first Wimbledon title in the most one-sided men's final since John McEnroe beat Jimmy Connors for the loss of just four games in 1984. But after the match Nalbandian's family and friends took to the streets in a pick-up truck covered with national flags for a lap of honor in this tiny town of 15,000 inhabitants, a 10-hour drive from Buenos Aires across an endless Pampa plain. "It is certainly a respite from the day to day slog of real life. This is a dream for us, an unexpected one. Obviously, a win would have been nice but just looking at the television and seeing my son is sufficient," said Norberto Nalbandian, the player's father and a motorbike mechanic, at his modest white-washed home. During the match, the family drank homemade wine as they huddled by a television set resting on a shelf cluttered with Nalbandian's trophies. Locals, excited by what they call "Nalbandamania," gathered outside the home to cheer him on like a soccer hero. Nearby, a local hot-dog stand had been renamed "King David" and buses dropped townspeople off at a stop next door now called "David's Corner." The 20-year-old Nalbandian was playing in his first Wimbledon tournament and had never expected such a successful run. His surprise passage to the final delighted Argentines struggling in the country's worst ever economic crisis which has seen five presidents since December. "Only years ago he was practicing on the town's humble concrete court," Norberto added. There is only one court in the whole town." In front of the Nalbandians' bungalow, a homemade big screen was erected for the crowds who came to join the party. Gauchos on horseback stopped to look and cars hooted as they passed the home. A horse and cart were parked in front of makeshift screen of white cloth where images of the game were projected for the crowd. When the screen soon broke down the family brought out their own TV set for the crowds and the party continued. "Win or lose, he has done something unheard of," Nalbandian's father added. "It has been nice to give the people some happiness in these hard times. The pride we feel is just indescribable, an unforgettable moment for the family and town," his mother, Aldi Nalbandian, said. "He has been sent from God," said Jorge, a flag salesman, as he clutched a home made banner in the shape of a tennis racket. "The football team failed to come up with the goods, but David had done us proud," said local history teacher Lazarete, referring to Argentina's shock first-round elimination from the World Cup last month.

20,000 Flock to 27th Homenetmen Navasartian Games Dedicated to 9/11 Victims VAN NUYS—More than 20,000 community members took part in the 27th annual Homenetmen Navasartian Games closing ceremonies Sunday at Birmingham High School and watched as more than 3,000 athletes and scouts marched during the finale parade under the honorary presidency of Alber Shahinian, who agreed to the title honoring the memory of her late wife Astghig. This year's ceremonies were dedicated to the victims and survivors of the Sept. 11 tragedy. Homenetmen members who also serve in the US Armed Forces entered the field with the US flag and in a ceremonial military guard presented the Stars & Stripes to the chairman of the Homenetmen Regional Executive Manuel Marselian. The weekend-long festivities, which began Wednesday evening and concluded Sunday, drew a large cross-section of the community that gathered around the Homenetmen banner to mark the 4th of July holiday weekend. Present at the closing ceremonies were Western Prelate Bishop Moushegh Mardirossian, chairman of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation Central Committee of Western US Viken Yacoubian, chairman of the ARF Central Committee of Lebanon Hovig Mekhitarian, whose visit to Los Angeles coincided with the closing ceremonies, Homenetmen Central Executive vice-chairman Jirayr Sarkisian and Central Executive member Koko Balian, as well as representatives from the regional executives of the Armenian Relief Society and Hamazkayin. Among the political officials attending the closing ceremonies were State Senator Jack Scott, State Assemblywoman Carol Liu, Glendale Mayor Rafi Manoukian, Glendale City Councilmembers Frank Quintero and Dave Weaver, Los Angeles City Councilwoman Wendy Greuel's representative Nairi Meserlian, LA Councilmember Dennis Zine, LA Councilmember Eric Garcetti's representative Baidzar Thomassian, LA Councilmember Tom Labonge's representative Adrin Nazarian, City of Duarte Mayor pro-tem George Chapjian, Glendale Unified School district Board member Greg Krikorian, Glendale Community College Board member Dr. Armine Hacopian, State Assembly candidate Steve Samuelian and LA County Human Relations Commission leader Adrian Dove. During the closing ceremonies program, two long-time athletes were honored for their years of service to the community and the organization. Sossi Mihranian-Der Ohanessian and Apo Nenedjan were awarded a special plaque honoring their service, while Garo Kazandjian was named Exemplary Homenetmen member of 2000. The Regional Executive also presented its annual Kevork Andonian and Zareh Deordulian scholarships to Arpy Javalakian, Christopher Vartanian, Tedig Grigorian and Norik Tahmassian. After the conclusion of the march, the crowd stayed around to enjoy the weekend-long festival, which culminated in a performance by Harut Pamboukjian.

thanks Arpa jan ther is mor to this / i will get some info soon i like to se more posts. p.s. Rafe is duing a good job on cilic.com BRAVO

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in our Christian Religion we often use 40 days - such Qarasunq - Qarasunq wan child is born - not to show the child to the outside world for 40 days Qarasun - a Tar Hair has 40 stages or steps to become a Ameniyn Hayots Hovvapet Qarasunq - wan one of us has pasd a way - we hold 40 days

Arpajan if you find anything on Hamshnetsi Culture and music let me know Thank you we have been woring on Hamshna-Zurna for 2 years - shat aveli mets yev zill dzayn uni qan mer sovorakan zurnnan - sakayn qich aveli info - kariq unem - yeraj@shtutyan yev yergeri tesaketits. MOvses [ July 07, 2002, 05:10 AM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

The Speaker of the National Assembly, the Prime Minister and the Catholicos have also addressed the nation on the occasion of Constitution Day. The Constitution created in 1995 is the only complete state document in the age-long history of Armenia. Before that, there have been some attempts to write and adopt a constitution. Special border stones erected by King Artashes the First can be considered the first constitutional document in the Armenian history. However, public life and economic relations in Armenian kingdoms were usually regulated by royal decrees and orders. In the first half of the 12th century, lawyer David Alavkaordi tried to write a constitution, but the document was not adopted, because it was flawed and did not meet social demands of the time. At the end of the same 12th century, Mkhitar Gosh created his “Datastanagirk,” which is a much more famous piece of medieval Armenian legal literature. A century later, Smbat Goondstabl created a Datastanagirk for the Cilician Armenian Kingdom. His book included Mkhitar Gosh’s work from the previous century. The most famous work of legal literature was “Vorogayt Parats”, created by Shahamir Shahamirian in Madras, in the beginning of the 18th century. His books consisted of 521 articles. Shahamirian rejected the idea of a one-person rule and advocated the creation of a bourgeois-democratic social order. According to the book, the supreme body in Armenia was to be the Parliament, called Hayots Tun, the Armenian House. A great number of works published since the 18th century explore how should Armenia live and be ruled after liberation. A group of Armenian young people, inspired by the ideas of the French Revolution, submitted an Armenian Constitution to the Ottoman Sultan in 1861. The Constitution was meant to regulate the life in Western Armenia, then under Ottoman rule. Two years later, the Sultan approved the Armenian Constitution, but first he took out many of its most important provisions. As a result, the Constitution did not provide for a status for Western Armenia and did not give any rights to Armenians. In 1918-1920, the Government of the First Armenian Republic intended to summon a Constitutional Assembly, but they did not have the time to do that and no Constitution was ever created for the First Republic. During the next 70 years under Soviet rule, Armenia managed to change its Constitution a number of times, but all of the Constitutions were mere copies of the Soviet one. In 1995, the dream of Armenian lawyers has come true: the current Constitution was adopted through popular referendum. Today, the Constitution needs some reforms. Experts think that reforms should be minimal; in other words, only those provisions must be changed that the country cannot afford not to change. The package of constitutional reforms will be ready next year. It is likely that it will be put on referendum at the same time with next year’s parliamentary elections. This was the opinion of Felix Tokhian, member of the Constitutional Court. In his interview to Haylur, Mr. Tokhian said that there should be no unnecessary haste in this process. Constitutional amendments proposed by a special committee have already passed international expertise and have receive positive reaction from the Venice Committee.

June 5, is Constitution Day in the Republic of Armenia. The Constitution, which is already 7 years old, reflects the Armenian people’s commitment to building a social and democratic country with the rule of law. In his address to the Armenian people on the occasion of the holiday, President Robert Kocharian said that the Constitution is the basis of Armenia’s legal system that guarantees law and order and stability in the country. The President also said that the people have already had a chance to see that the Constitution has managed to keep the country from possible shocks in times of crises. “The main missions of the Constitution are to guarantee the rights and liberties of Armenian citizens and to form political consensus,” President Kocharian said. The President also noted that, since Armenia is experiencing progress, time is ripe now for constitutional reforms and modernization of the country’s legal foundations. The President added that this process is in its final stage already.

quote:Originally posted by Boghos: quote:Originally posted by MosJan:Boghos do you need a master who play's duduk or do you need a master who makes duduk ? i do not know any one in Brazil, but i will keep it in mind, just in case i get some info I'll let you know. you have some of the best wood that can be used for duduk in brazil, Brazilian rosewood, i have one that has been made for Vache Hovsepyan in 1972, the sound is totally different, it has something different, like it adds totally different dimension to our traditional Armenian duduk. Boghos Saro Danyelyan is next to you, in Argentina. he is one of the best Duduk players. MOvses Saro Danyelian, good Lord, I didn't know...Actually I need btha nw pro duduk and a teacher smilies/frown.gif. Thanks, Movses. Boghos jan good friend of mine Daryl Finley is moving to BRAZIL this year - his a good jazz artist and a good Duduk player - if you like i will lat you know when has in Brazil MOvses

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quote:Originally posted by Sip:Interesting thread ... something that is probably on the minds of many Armenian families (some I know very personally). I am in BIG favor of staying home for as long as you are in school. Yes, I've had to put up with being looked down upon as "a 25 year-old who still lives at home" smilies/lol.gif in this rediculous US culture which seems to constantly adovcate: "Go very far away to college, drink, party, smoke, have sex, have fun, and try to study once in a while"!!! ... I know it is supposed to be shameful and not the "American" thing to do. But I don't regret a single second of it. your stell coll duudee Sure I may have missed all the "fun" and excitement of living alone smilies/rolleyes.gif but there are also BIG advantages to having a nice "home" to go to after class each day. A place where you can reflect and remember that you are in school to work hard ... to learn ... and to become a better person (not what the media, pop culture, and the others tell you). I have seen several of my friends move out of their supporting, loving, homes ... go into the strange world of University life in the US and simply get lost. Note, I am NOT saying this will happen to everyone ... I am just trying to share my experience which I think has been VERY positive staying at "home" while spending all my years at UCLA. i see the LOST ones most every day - yev havata iyn inch yes em tesnum - usanorneri kyanqi DARK orer@ - shater@ angam garapar chunen dra masin - patkeratsreq vor usanorneri kyanq@ misht chi vor VARDAGUYN e Also let me make it clear that ever since high school I have been pretty independent. I have paid for EVERYTHING I have needed. I have paid for my own cloths, car, insurance, school feels, toys, traveling, etc etc ... at some points I have had 2 or 3 jobs while at school ... I have worked hard (Ok I never paid rent and I did eat a lot of stuff out of the fridge which I didn't buy but you get the point ) Staying home has allowed me to travel extensively (due to the money I saved), have lukrative hobies and other activities (i.e. offroading) which are essential to coping with the stresses that pusuing a Ph.D. degree can entail and not to mention the fact that you often have access to the nice home-made meals!!!! lukrative hobies / oh we know Seaphan jan you and your hobies / i just got me a new one RC Chapperrrr / he he So staying at home does NOT mean not being independent. But it does mean having a good support structure in place for when the times get really hard (because they will!). Especially if you are going to chase education levels well beyond a 4-year BS, then don't be so hasty leaving home. support structure / you support your OJAX and your OJAX supports you - th ebest way to go In some cases you will have no choice ... if a very good university has accepted you but is far from home, your only choice may be to move. But if there is an alternative, I would not easily dismiss "staying home" as an option. independent i will be 33 in 20 days and i'm still in my HOUSE - i wll not have it any other way You'll have the rest of your life to be on your own man your Coll