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Turkey boosts arms supplies to Syria terrorists in exchange for oil & antiques

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Arrest Warrant Issued Over Turkish President Son’s Link To ISIS http://yournewswire.com/arrest-warrant-issued-for-turkish-president-sons-link-to-isis/ http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/bilal-erdogan-ISIS.jpg The Turkish Superior Court have issued an arrest warrant for the son of Turkey’s President, Recep Erdogan, after he failed to appear in court during an investigation into the “Erdogan criminal cartel” which has been accused of supporting ISIS militants in Syria, and murdering journalists who investigated the crimes. The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service have launched an international criminal investigation into Bilal Erdogan after an agreement was made between President Putin and French President Francois Hollande to target the corrupt Erdogan family following the shooting down of the Russian Su-24 jet. Whatdoesitmean.com reports:

now turkey is voicing that will take part in Artsax fight, azeris called back there consular from turkey... sooo our next step is ask / bagging Putin the all mighty to help. bring your army to NKR

2 tary e Hayastani bnakchutyun@ payqaruma vor aveli shat russ zinvor Hayastan chberen, vor rusi zinvor Artsaxum chlini.. vor Gyumrin vorpes zinvorakan qaghaq chdarna.. de hima turq@ sparnuma vro k@xpi hayastanin,, de hima Hayastanum "Terorist" xumb gtan.. de hima arden jogghovurd@ aveli hesht k@hamadziyni vor rus@ aveli zinvor beri hayastan, rus@ artsax mtni.. asumen nuynisk vor rus@ Stepanakerti odanavakayan@ karrogha ogtvi.. zarmanali joghovurd enq zarmanali..

wishful thinking http://bloghay.ru/index.php?newsid=299 Պուտինը կարող է զրկել Թուրքիային իր տարածքի 30 տոկոսից Թուրքիան սեղմում է Սիրիայի շուրջ օղակը ու, ստանալով ԱՄՆ-ի աջակցությունը, համարձակվում է հարձակումներ կատարել ՌԴ-ի կողմը: Չճշտված տեղեկությունների համաձայն, որոնց հարկավոր է զգուշորեն վերաբերվել, անանուն աղբյուրները հայտնում են, որ «Ռուսաստանը պատրաստվում է խզել Կարսի ու Մոսկվայի պայմանագրերը, ինչի հետևանքով Թուրքիան կարող է զրկվել իր տարածքների մինչև 30 տոկոսից»,- գրում է Vesti.Lv-ն: Մոսկվայի պայմանագիրը ռուս-թուրքական պայմանագիր է «Բարեկամության ու եղբայրության» մասին, որը ստորագրվել է 1921թ. մարտի 16-ին Թուրքիայի Մեծ ազգային ժողովի կառավարության ու Ռուսաստանի Խորհրդային Սոցիալիստական Հանրապետության կառավարության միջև: Պայմանագրի համաձայն՝ հայկական Կարս ու Արդահան քաղաքներն անցան Թուրքիային: Արարատ լեռը նույնպես մնաց Թուրքիայի տարածքում: Պայմանագրի համաձայն՝ Ռուսաստանն այն երկարաձգում է յուրաքանչյուր 25 տարին մեկ, ու հիմա մոտենում է պայմանագրի հերթական ստորագրման ժամկետը, ինչը Ռուսաստանը կարող է օրինական հիմունքներով չկատարել: Այդ դեպքում Թուրքիան ստիպված կլինի հսկայական տարածքներ վերադարձնել: Նշվում է, որ այդ տարածքները Թուրքիայի կազմում մինչ օրս բնակեցված չեն 1853 -1923թթ. Հայոց ցեղասպանությունից հետո, քանի որ Թուրքիան միշտ դիտարկել է 20-րդ դարասկզբին օկուպացված տարածքները վերադարձնելու հնարավորությունը, ինչի պատճառով էլ այդտեղ չեն ուղղվում ներդրումներ ու բացակայում են ժամանակակից ենթակառուցվածքները: Պուտինը կարող է զրկել Թուրքիային իր տարածքի 30 տոկոսից (քարտեզ) http://bloghay.ru/uploads/posts/2015-11/1448714980_qartez1.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-urges-nationals-delay-travel-russia-104842554.html Putin orders sanctions against Turkey "Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday called for sanctions against Turkey, following the downing this week by Turkey of a Russian warplane. The decree published on the Kremlin's website Saturday came hours after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had voiced regret over the incident, saying his country was “truly saddened” by the event and wished it hadn’t occurred." Erdogan’s expression of regret Saturday was the first since Tuesday’s incident in which Turkish F-16 jets shot down the Russian jet on grounds that it had violated Turkey’s airspace despite repeated warnings to change course. It was the first time in half a century that a NATO member shot down a Russian plane and drew a harsh response from Moscow. “We are truly saddened by this incident,” Erdogan said. “We wish it hadn’t happened as such, but unfortunately such a thing has happened. I hope that something like this doesn’t occur again.”

something don't add up.

sorry its in Russian Pilot of SU24. his ok. and the the box has been found. in his words. he did not enter in turky https://www.facebook.com/1tvnews/videos/1223716620977938/

Published on Nov 18, 2015 Russian Air Force jets carried out airstrikes against an oil refinery controlled by Islamic State in Syria on Wednesday and destroyed around 500 fuel tanker vehicles transporting illegal oil from Syria to Iraq. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wxi

Russian Defense Ministry demonstrates map of the Su-24M flight which ended in downing by Turkish F-16 jet. Russian MoD insists the jet didn’t violate Turkish airspace, while Ankara says the plane crossed into its territory for 17 seconds, leaked document indicates.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151124/1030695406/mod-su-24-flight-path.html http://cdn4.img.sputniknews.com/images/103069/53/1030695345.png

Russian defence ministry says its fighter jet downed in Syria - Interfax Tue Nov 24 01:14:02 EST 2015 | Reuters MOSCOW Nov 24 Russia's defence ministry said on Tuesday one of its fighter jets was downed in Syria, apparently after coming under fire from the ground, Interfax news agency reported. The Turkish military said it shot down a plane after it was repeatedly warned about violating Turkish airspace. But the Russian defence ministry said the Su-24 plane had not violated Turkish airspace. The ministry said the pilots of the jet had ejected and parachuted to the ground. (Reporting by Maria Kiselyova; wr..

https://corporalfrisk.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/su-24-down-in-syria/

Su-24 Down in Syria November 24, 2015 Corporal Frisk 4 Comments Earlier today a Russian Su-24 was shot down close to the Turkish-Syrian border. According to Turkish media, the unidentified plane was shot down in Turkish airspace, after repeated warnings (10 warnings over five minutes being quoted). Russian sources claim the aircraft was brought down in Syrian airspace, something which seems to be corroborated by the fact that it was later the rebels who showed pictures of the dead pilots. An interesting piece of evidence that surfaced surprisingly fast was a purported radar track of the Turkish F-16 as well as the Russian Su-24. According to this track, the Su-24 overflew a salient, crossing approximately 2.5-3 km of Turkish territory. In practice, even if the plane flew at low speed, it would not have spent more time in Turkish airspace than 10-30 seconds. Even if the F-16 fired an AMRAAM (the usual weapon of choice for today’s F-16 pilots) the moment the Su-24 crossed the border, chances are it would have been back in Syria by the time the missile impacted. However, a more likely explanation is that Turkey is getting fed up by the Russian intrusions, and as they never manage to shoot down an intruder during the act, they instead opted to chase it down over the border. Overflight This brings up the question of Rules of Engagement, or ROE for short. These are a the rules set out by countries to govern their armed forces use of force, in this case the Turkish government/higher command stipulating when their fighters are allowed to fire air-to-air missiles. In western countries during peacetime the usual rule set is variations on theme of “use of force is allowed only if fired upon first, or if there are definite indications that the enemy is about to fire”. This has clearly not been the case here (the Su-24 can carry R-60 short-range missiles for self-defence, but I find it extremely hard to believe it would have tried to take on an F-16 in a fight), and even more interesting is a tweet alleging that the Turkish fighter had shot down an ‘unidentified’ intruder. Visual identification is more or less a pre-requisite for handling this kind of incidents, and not positively identifying your target prior to shooting it down could quite possibly be a violation of international rules (if the quote was indeed correct).

UPDATE: 3:54 a.m. EST -- The Russian Defense Ministry said that the plane that was shot down by Turkey over the Syrian border was a Russian Su-24 jet flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters. "Su-24 of the Russian aviation group has crashed in the Syrian Arab Republic after alleged fire from the ground," the Russian defense ministry reportedly said Tuesday. The statement added that the plane, which was flying at an altitude of 19, 600 feet "stayed strictly within Syrian airspace," and that its pilots were able to eject the aircraft. "The fate of the pilots is being determined...The circumstances of the plane's crash are under investigation," the statement said. While Turkey insisted that it warned the Russian plane several times before shooting it down, Russian authorities said that the plane -- which was on a bombing mission in Syria -- had not violated the Turkish airspace, the Associated Press reported. Turkey's Anadolu news agency tweeted an image of the plane saying it was shot down because the plane violated Turkish airspace. The agency added on Twitter that the Russian plane received 10 warnings in five minutes and that it was challenged by two F-16 jets. http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-warplane-shot-down-turkey-near-syrian-border-alleged-airspace-violation-2197581

is this going to be a turning point in Russia turkey relations ? A Russian Su-24 fighter has been shot down in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said, adding the plane hadn’t violated Turkish airspace and was flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters. “During the flight, the aircraft was flying within the borders of Syria, which was registered by objective monitoring data,” the ministry said, adding that the aircraft was "supposedly shot down from the ground.”

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