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Barev Vava Thanx for the welcome. Looking forward to interacting

CSUN. Yes, I'm still doing social work. I'm so pleased to hear that you listen to Forsh I was about to post a new thread re:Forsh. His new CD came out a few days ago and I finally bought it today (since I was in Glendale). I've been listening to the songs all day long and reminiscing. During my last trip to Erevan (this past summer) we used to go to Paplavok (almost) every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night and listen to Forsh, performing his new songs, which were not on a CD yet. Listening to these songs took me back in time and made me feel all of the emotions I had felt during those hours. And there are no words to describe those emotions ... they have left a bitter-sweet aftertaste in the folds of my memory You might have seen the clip of one of the songs "Hents Ayspes El Aprum Enq", which is wonderful but there are a few others that I absolutely love - "Karapan" & "Zbosanq Yerevanov" ... and then the last song, "Yerevan", which is a classic. In short, get the CD. If you listen to him, then you must have this CD. Glad to hear that work is good. Unhappiness at work reflects on the other aspects of daily life. I'm so pleased to hear that you enjoyed your trip to Erevan. I cringe every time someone comes back from Erevan with loads of complaints. Next time try to spend at least a month to get a (somewhat) real taste of the daily life. It's so rewarding. Later

Heriq chi anuns tapores??? Xentuk voch te XentHuk

Oh Shiki is #1 on my list. It's on Ventura Blvd and always packed.

Yamashiro Mamashiro ... too A La Frangi. Shiki is the best !!! See you there soon.

I think he's just a NAME and I don't believe he's the one making the "brilliant financial decisions."

"@ndimutyun@ hin haykakan adat a" from a play

Did they finally decide on his burial ground?

Has anyone read his book(s)?

MASONIC PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia. James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia. Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee. James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee. James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee. James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio. William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia. Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York. William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio. Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership. Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940. Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri. In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry. Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance. check out the site if interested Famous Masons

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Ch@kayatsats Handipum Yes vaxenum em ayn 2 barits vor piti portkan im zusp shrtnerits yev vaxenum em kosmikakan ayn jaragaytits vor pit poxantsvi im ayterin, qo sat achqerits mahu chap em yes vaxenum qo shegh nayvatsqits du arden gites inchpes kanxes indz ... vaxenum em yes, vor mer bazhanmamb piti hastatvi anherqeli mi jshmartutyun "ir verj@ uni amen patmutyun" ... nayev, anchap vaxenum em yes ayn mtqits vor bazhanman harmar pah@ uni zhamanman, lok iren haytni, vayrn u vayrkyan@ ... yev im votqer@, im kamqits ankax (kam shpotmunqits, gutse yev vaxits) yerkaratsnum en jampen bazhanman yev indz heratsnum vayrits handipman ... 03/24/04

Yerevakayakan Zbosanq Operayits gnum em depi Kond: Mashtotsi Poghotayov minchev Vram Shapuh Arqayi poghots: Heto aj: Hasnum em Leoyi poghots: Dzaxi vra patmakan Kondn e: Inch el shog e: Ispanaxos antsordneri zruyts@ indz yet e berum im husheri grkits: Tsutsamats mi pah kang e arnum qartezi vra: Achqers ughvum en depi yerkinq yev hetevum voch shat hervum slatsogh odanavin: "Tesnes nor e bartsratsel? te ijnum e? Che, hastat nor e bartsratsel ! Tesnes ur e gnum? Yerevi te Hayastan: Che, nax Paris, heto Haykakan odanav@ ughevornerin karni ir mej u khastsni Zvartnots: Tesnes nrantsits qanis@ 'im janaparhov' kgnan Kond?" Mi verjin angam yeranutyamb nayum em arden mi poqrik ket dartsats odanavin yev veradarnum arjevs prvats qartezin: Tsutsamats sahel, hasel e Hanrapetutyan Hraparak: Arevatsaghik vajarogh mamik@ ir mshtakan teghum e - yergogh shatrvanneri mot: Bayts shat shog e: Ay hima mi sar@ paghpaghak kutei: Inchqan em talu? 150 dram: Achqers pakum em yev portsum hishel katnaham paghpaghaki sarnutyun@: Iskapes vor shat shog e: Nuynisk ays tsatskvats seghani mot: Mexanikoren nayum em zhamatsuytsis, pakum qartez@ yev dzhkamoren qaylum depi meqenan: Apsos, "lunch"-i zham@ verjatsav ...

Hooooooop. Xndrum em mi hat argelak (tormuz). Nax Sulamita, yev voch Sulemita. (Sevak@ gerezmanum shur yekav) Heto tqelu sovorutyun chunem, heratsel ei hargeli patjarnerov Isk inch verabervum e Bambanerkayin ... yes geradasum em sushi Arden nkatetsi vor mi qani hogi el tulutyun unen sushiyi handep. Enpes vor, sushin im vra.

Asum em vo~chxar em kortsrel, cheq tesel???

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Azat I already posted a few lines to you under "Impressions of the Day" ... and no I don't plan to disappear. I will stay (not sure for how long) but I don't expect myself to be too active due to work & school.

Hi Azat jan. It's nice to be back. I've been well (mostly). Can't complain Last we spoke I was planning to start on my Masters. Due to some obstacles I chose Sociology (instead of Armenian Studies) and I really enjoy being back in college I guess you appreciate it more the second time around. How are things with you? Wasn't there someone on this site who taught at CSUN?

Thank you. I went back to school and moved out on my own. In short, made my life more hectic and chaotic. But recently things have come to a quasi-equilibrium and here I am

Patahakan Handipum Hpantsik hayatsq Krakot zhpit Setevet mi zhest Mtovi hambuyr … Yev tprtum e sirts krtsqis tak Taq aryuns e xlrtum, yerum Mi xentutyun e nerxuzhum hogis U patjar darnum nor tsnvogh yergis: Garnanayin ays xentatsnogh Anush buyrits yes arbe~l em Tsaghikneri nazanqnerits qnqshatsel em Aregaki taq shogherits jermatsel em Ays garnan het, kartses norits yes tsnvel em … Yev hishel em vor sha~t vaghuts qez sirel em … Qez sirel u karotel em Heto … heto … Ashnanayin mrayl mi or Yes qezanits heratsel em … Bayts haskatsi~r … Heranalov yes mer ser@ xnayel em Kyanqi poshot poghotsnerits ayn prkel em Jakatagri jirannerits azatel em Yev bolori achqits heru, yes mer ser@ sermanel em … Sermanel em ayn kisaqand maturi tak Vor kangnats e sari lanjin Yes mer ser@ ambarel em parart hoghin … Shagh em tvel qaminerin … Meran dartsrel varar jrin … Yev ays garnan, bnutyun@ Mer sirov e arbel ases Na patmutyan mi nor ej e uzum grel Yev shtapum e mer jampeq@ norits xachel … Hpantsik hayatsq Krakot zhpit Setevet mi zhest Mtovi hambuyr … Patahakan, patahakan mi handipum … 03/17/04

MosJan du el piti nsheir "again" Te der ches mtaberum indz ?

Karevor@ menq enq u Amerikan ...

OK. Here's what I've learned. Majority of men do not like being told that they are wrong. Even if it's very clear to them that they are wrong (or that they seriously messed up) and they might be kicking themselves in secret, they become extremely defensive when YOU (i.e. member of the female gender) vocalize that reality. For a while it was hard for me to grasp this but I have finally accepted it as a fact. As previously stated by Armen, inherently men like to be in control. When you point out his mistakes you yank away his sense of control. A man backed into a corner is not a happy camper.

Oh. Which university?

For those interested, here's a sociological perspective on FASHION. According to Georg Simmel (social theorist), fashion derives from a basic tension specific to the social condition of the human being. On one hand, each of us has tendency to imitate others. On the other, we also have a tendency to distinguish ourselves from others. Undoubtedly, some of us tend more towards imitation (and thus to conformism) while others tend to distinction (and thus to eccentricity and dissidence), but fashion's flux needs both of these contradictory tendencies in order to work. Homo Sapiens are driven by two instincts (among others) - one pushing them to imitate their neighbours, the other pushing them to distinguish themselves. From one side, an individual tends to imitate others they admire. From the other, they tend to distinguish themselves from people towards whom they are indifferent or who they despise. For Simmel "... fashion represents nothing more than one of the many forms of life by the aid of which we seek to combine in uniform spheres of activity the tendency towards social equalization with the desire for individual differentiation and change." In each social relation there are two forces at work: one pushing us to bind ourselves to others through imitation, and another pushing us to unbind ourselves from others, to undo the social network, through distinction. But social life changes in so far as the balance between the socialising force and the de-socialising force is always unstable and provisional. Fashion is an example of the way in which actual social life always includes in some way its own opposite, an asocial life. As Kant said, society is based on ungesellige geselligkeit, "unsociable sociality". Now, the impulse to imitate - and thus to endure, to unify, to equalise - is not directed towards our neighbours: we imitate instead people who are, in one way or another, superior to us. From which follows the Simmelian principle, "... fashion ... is a product of class distinction ..." For fashion to exist, society must be stratified, some members must be perceived as inferior or superior - or simply as worthy or unworthy of being imitated. And as far as the "inferior one" imitates their direct "superior" and never vice versa, the conclusion is: "... fashion - i.e., the latest fashion [in social forms, apparel, aesthetic judgement, the whole style of human expression] - affects only the upper classes." For example, suppose some upper class girls begin to wear a new skirt designed by a prestigious couturier. Soon, the desire for lower class girls to imitate them will force the market to supply low-priced copies. Thus, moving down from one level to another, in a short space of time this skirt no longer distinguishes the upper class girls, since everyone is wearing cheap imitations. So the girls from the upper classes will once again have to look for something else to distinguish themselves, which will once again be imitated, and so the cycle will go on. ----------------------------------------------------------- I wonder ... do most of you use fashion to conform or to "rebel"?