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If Wilt Chamberlain started his sexual relations at the age of 16, he had 47 years of potential mates. 47*365 = 17155. 20000/17155 = 1.1658408627222384144564266977558 women / day for 47 years.

No, I don't think it does. There are a lot of mature but player type guys. LOL. Sip, who talked about drugs? I am seriously confused here. Maybe I missed something? What do drugs have anything to do with STDs? STD = Sexually Transmitted Diseases... What the heck?

:lol2: Azat, I thought it was my pic!!!

I thought that's what player meant.. besides, I was also talking about mating, not only seeking mates. Men used to copulate with more than one woman, and they used to fight over women. Check out the thread in the science and technology forum that I posted a while ago. I highly doubt that one can get an STD from a clean person. But I don't know, I'm no expert in this field, so don't take my word for granted.

The idea that all men are immature and players is a recent representation of males by popular culture. This is the result of politically correct inclinations that stand in awe to feminism. That men have always been more active than women in seeking mates is an undeniable fact. Does that make them players? According to the recent surge in Christian fundamentalism, it does. According to the history of human nature, it does not. I'm sure some religious people on here will attack me for this, but keep in mind that this is my view, and you don't have to agree with me or believe in what I said.

Scientists: Hard heads a key to survival Clubbing heads may have been part of mating rituals By Marsha Walton CNN Friday, February 13, 2004 Posted: 10:55 AM EST (1555 GMT) (CNN) -- Get it through your once-thick skull. Scientists say the bulky craniums of the human ancestor, homo erectus, may have helped the species survive some aggressive mating rituals. After studying fossils in a region called Dragon Bone Hill in China, anthropologist Russell Ciochon of the University of Iowa concluded males of the species were clubbing one another over the head, probably to win females. Those with thicker skulls who survived these bloody confrontations would pass that trait to offspring, Ciochon said. "The evidence shows there may have been ritualized violence taking place," he said. For more than 100 years, researchers have pondered the odd shape of homo erectus' skull, which looks something like a bicycle helmet. Designed to protect the brain, eyes and ears from impact, homo erectus' head was bulkier than those of hominids before it, and after it. In their book "Dragon Bone Hill, an Ice Age Saga of Homo Erectus," Ciochon and anatomy professor Noel Boaz say they would "lay bets that, as in many other species, we are detecting the results of sexual selection." In the rugged world of homo erectus, a tough skull served them well, scientists said. It would have been a tremendous advantage for survival, less likely to break on impact and geared toward winning fights. With no language, only a shaky knowledge of fire, and simple stone tools, homo erectus managed to survive for more than 1.5 million years. Over the years other explanations for the thick skulls didn't completely add up. For example, the skull could not save them from a major predator of the day, the giant hyena. Hyenas would likely have aimed for softer, more vulnerable parts of the homo erectus body, researchers say. And the animal's fierce teeth could pierce even the thickest pre-human head. The researchers used modern tools to reach their conclusions, studying fossil casts, fossil bones, ethnographic records and comparative anatomy. They experimented with human cadavers to establish how much force it would take to break bones. They gathered evidence from dozens of fossils with healed skull fractures: presumably from the hard-heads who got the girls. Researchers compared the mating rituals of the hominids to those of bighorn sheep, who charge at each other at speeds up to 20 mph and butt heads for the right to mate with females. So why didn't modern humans inherit this thick skull? Ciochon said evolution eventually favored a lighter skull to accommodate a heavier and larger brain. A thinner skull also would help cool the brain. An excerpt of the book is in the February issue of Natural History magazine. http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/02/12...ulls/index.html --- I can imagine what flirting could've been like for them..

LOL. How about "reading surji kavateh"?

I would rather have a baby. I don't think babies get in the way of relationships, unless the relationship is unhealthy anyway. I would give the whole world to be a dad. It would bring me even closer to my wife. But I guess those who have the chance to are in a different situation than those who know they wouldn't ever be in that position. I guess you value it most when you can't get to it. I don't know.

:lol2: you guys are hilarious.. hahaha.. that was great, Sip!!

Oh, that means that I qualify as well?!

Oww!! Thanks MosJan, that was great!! Good to see people making such games for Armenian kids!!! I don't have kids, but I think it's great!!!! (I fell in love with the song LOL - does anyone know what song that is?)

England. I've travelled around Germany, France, Belgium, on internships, other than that, I haven't really taken a plane just for the heck of it. The best experience I had was the tour at Ypres. I haven't been to Spain, but I'd like to, some day. Travelling is lots of fun, even if it is for a purpose other than having fun and sightseeing. Oh, the adventure of it!! :D (I love airports ) Don't we all? Welcome to the forum! And what does your username refer to? Paul Anka?

Oh, not at all. I never said it wasn't normal to feel that way. It's O.K to feel that way. We all feel down after a disappointment in a relationship or an affair. I'm sure no one deserves to be treated like that. As for the drugs, hmm, I don't know, I haven't seen guys who do drugs at the age of 35, at least not the ones who have a decent job, etc. I might be mistaken. I don't know what the situation is like where you live, I'm assuming you live in the States? It's a little bit different here in Europe. About the GPA - believe me, I've had that sort of thing happen to me, although not really about a relationship, but try and do your best to concentrate on your studies as much as you can, just shove the other stuff out of your mind while studying. Hard to do, I know, but you can always try. Well, if he doesn't seem to give a damn about it, you shouldn't either. Think about it that way, and you will have a much healthier attitude towards what happened - have confidence in yourself. The fact that he said/thinks that he can get whoever he wants is enough for you to realise that maybe he's not all too serious about you, or that he doesn't consider you as unique as you want him to think of you - in a way trying to tell you that if it doesn't work out with you, he can easily find another one.. So I suggest that you start convincing yourself that he's not the one for you. He's just a player. Or at least that's the impression I got from what you said, even though I don't like assuming things. I also suggest that you do not call him or "yedeven inal", because there are guys who start talking around about you, and saying how you were after him, etc. There are worse things in life than being dumped by an *sshole, such as being slandered, especially if you live in an Armenian-based community.

K, I'll make this short and sweet, stay away from him. For your own sake, not his. Some people are just not material for committed relationships, and if he's not at the age of 35, I think it's too late, at least for you, if you're going to wait for him to come around. It seems like he was just toying around with the idea of you as the submissive woman and fantasising about your replies to his questions, etc. And if he sleeps around, I suggest that you be cautious, there are a lot of STDs going around, not to mention other serious complications. The last thing you'd want is to wind up with such a case. You're still young and have a whole lot of experiences to go through. Just because it didn't work out with one guy doesn't mean you're screwed for life. Besides, you're still young, and perhaps haven't discovered yourself or your interests yet. Most (not all) of the young marriages that take place end up not-so-well, because it happened in such a haste, that they didn't even stop and think about things, etc. You're what, 21, lots of time still. Enjoy your youth, don't let it be destroyed by a false committed relationship. Age difference doesn't really matter. Sometimes it's a factor in the success of a relationship, since one of the partners is not mature enough yet, but all in all, I don't think it's a hindrance at all. It's just that I think he's someone that you should stay away from. K, perhaps it wasn't so short, after all. LOL. But I hope I got my point across. Good luck, and enjoy your youth!!!

Selfishness (opposite of altruism)? Politics? And never the twain shall meet!! Ahhh!!! The irony of it all!!

So just because I don't agree and am trying to refute your points, that means that I don't understand your "subtle" points and am unwilling to think outside of the box? How about I said the same about you? Who would be right then? I am not being bookish. So far, I didn't even bring any of Kant or any of Plato or Socrates. I am simply discussing ideas, not books or documents. So who are you calling bookish? For your information, I am in postgraduate school in philosophy, that doesn't really mean that I cannot think otuside the box. It means that I back up my arguments quite well, and if you have a problem with that and the fact that I say "I disagree," then I think you DID do the wise thing in backing away from this discussion. As I said before, I am not here to convince anyone. That is not the point of a discussion. That is why so many of you start attacking others and changing the direction of a thread from discussion to war-like hate mongering. A discussion is for exchange of opinions, not an attempt to force one's view upon another. You are assuming a morally higher position and claiming that your position is better tha mine. You are claiming that God's existence is universal and that because I do not use that as a premise, there is something wrong with my arguments, and that I (or Rachels) is referring to God in a superficial manner. If you choose to take things to personally, then by any means, back away. But there really wasn't anything personal in this, I assure you. You can't expect your "opponent" in a debate to not attack your arguments. You want to attack my arguments, but get all hot and bothered when I attack yours, and you claim yours is backed by God and the truth that I cannot see. I'm sorry, but I really can't follow your logic. I didn't get personal until you did. Where on earth, in this thread, did I get personal and aggressive (before your post that starts with "I took you more seriously than I should have.") And even then, I tried to be as nice as possible. I don't believe in personal attacks. Call me arrogant, call me egoistic, because at the end of the day, it will be YOU who is making judgements and attacks on my moral values and character. And this will be my final reply to you with regards to this. I will continue to post my observations in this thread unless it distresses you and you choose to lock it. Anyone who would like to throw some thoughts in is welcome to do so. I like hearing peoples' views, contrary to what you or others might think.

Somehow I doubt the accuracy of these figures. 50 Armenians in all of Ireland? There must be something wrong with that figure. And what does the * signify? :lol2: WOW!!! So 6000 in all of the United Kingdom minus London?!? I really don't know. I wouldn't say that there are a lot of Armenians here in Liverpool. And I dare say the numbers in Lebanon diminished significantly post-civil war. And: 50,000 + 1,000 + 30,000 = 81,000 != 80,000

That he was being superstitious? Well, isn't any unproven belief comparable to superstition?

Ha ha!! I can see your post count, and I am fairly sure that the number of times we've gone offtopic is somewhere in between 1 million and 1 million, but I was talking about the count of the experiment LOL. Who votes for who. Remember what the thread was all about?! So do report the results.

LOL!!! Agent Mulder was even worse than some of the people here who subscribe to the doctrine of "blind faith ergo fact." Well, he was constantly on the search for aliens, and he strongly believed that they existed, and I guess he was being superstitious, just like those who believe in God and refuse to even hear the voice of reason!! What can I say... I thought Catholics were bad, but boy was I wrong!!

Hey kid, I suggest that you think twice before trying to sound like a smart*ss. I mark the papers of kids just like you, and believe me, if you're as much of a pretend-smart*ass in real life as you are on this forum, then I suggest you re-evaluate your future at university, because not too many teachers are tolerant of unproven smartness. If you've got the stuff, show it. If not, all you're doing is talk without showing that you know anything, only claiming. I do not mean to be so critical of you and your attempts to try and demean me, but really, kid, you sound like you're a good kid, and if you spend more time meddling in things of manageable scope instead of jumping into a pool without knowing how to swim, that would be for your own good. I don't know what I said that ticked you off, but whatever it is, I have no intention of finding out nor do I care. But if you want me to take you seriously (not that I care if you do) and read your posts, I suggest you stop right there and think twice about what you're doing, because you seem to be violating the basic social contract of keeping trash out of this forum. peace

Excuse me? Agree to god? I never said any such thing. The proof that I showed was not my own doing. Besides, I can assume anything in order to prove it wrong, doesn't mean that I believe in it or that I consider it to exist.

Mmm, and did I tell you, I'm done with you? Well now I did. Adios. Au revoir. Ciao! Whichever language you know best..

Yes yes, the ultimate justification.. not going to waste time pointing out your fallacies, but your arguments are fallacious. You know, if you were my student and you said that, I'd give you a complete 0. Zero. F. Failure. Whichever you call it. Doesn't matter if you're an Armenian or not. Contradictions? Where do you find a contradiction? Oh but I forgot, you're not going to waste your time pointing them out. heck, if i can get paid for doing absolutely nothing but debating (cos I have nothing better to do), then I must be one lucky bastard! :D It'd be almost like playing in professional league, having fun and at the same time getting paid for it!! I tell you, it's UTOPIA!! you can't even spell philosophy correctly, and you want a philosopher to take you seriously? Now that I think about it, not only would I give you a 0, I would also get you dropped out of my class. And I'm no evil teacher. the "kids" love me. So you go on believing in your little utopia of blind faith, let's see where that will get you!

What if they were mere coincidences? Good god no, that could not happen. That's completely anti-religious and anti-spiritual.