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I have been called Bigot many times, it doesnt offend me.. And your right i am through discussing this with you also... Oh Domino thanks for all the math... lol.. it helps, but i wont have the chance to explain to Dan why i asked that question, he doesnt wanna listen to me anymore, hes "open minded" whatever man, we will see then...Its all thats left to say to someone who thinks hes openminded but has locked himself in his own hypocritical world, ideas and is fullfilling his "desire" of sex with men... I have 2 friends that are gay, i am not a gay basher, or else i woulda been arrested by now i guess. I can disguss this with them in a profesional manner, but its not happening with you... By the way i should say i "HAD" 2 friends that were gay, one of them is straight now because he found GOD,, and you can call it anything you want, you can try to tell us that God doesnt exist, noone can proov his existance etc..., well i tried but i feel you knew the type of thing i was gonna say , and you blank me out.. thats kewl, thats just like poeple like you.. The "OPEN MINDED" ones.... lol,, what a joke.

Who has any proof that this method is accurate, cause i see many mnay proofs against it...?

just read through this guys,,,, and youll hopefully understand that evolution is prooving to itself why evolution cant be right....

well, for now look at this http://www.godsaidmansaid.com/topic3.asp?Cat2=244&ItemId=596 i know you dont believe in the bible or whatever, but just read it for amusement if nothing else Dan jan... suggestion,, try to read it pretending God does exist

Anoushik jan, its called "faith".... everything in christianity is based on faith, and so is the main thing it teaches.. they dont teach the main thing to be, treat others like you would treat yourselves or whatever... Trust me if you understood why fait is so important, then you will undertand christianity.. I will post a url for all these questions being asked by atheists in in,, or not so atheists.. lol Domino, not a bad explanation with all that galaxy stuff.. i like... its what i try to get out of the atheists, and people who believe that we evolved from monkeys.... Lets say there is no God, and there has never been... Where did you come from (other than the obvious of your mothers womb) where did people come from... well the best science can explain it is SOOOOOOOOO farfetched its just hilarious... This is what they basically imply: We are evolved from what used to be a mere bacteria, in perfect conditions,, like Domino explained before,, (and its number of how many things can go wrong is infinite..thats and abstract concept which im sure your aware of) then this bacteria evolved from its state of larva type of creature to something that has legs, maybe like a worm.. and long story short, it kept evolving to monkeys to this and that,, and eventually settled in as us,, human beings.... can anyone say they seriously think that other than this being impossible, believe in this.. Why we not evolving now, why we not growing and arm, cause sometimes i can really use it at work,, why we not growing and extra fingers so we can type faster, and since our appendix is of no apparant use to our bodies, why dont we stop growing thos.. LOL... its just nonsense,,, the theory of evolution is nonsense,,,.

OK, Dan if you not offended then i apologize, it just sounded that way to me from some of what you were saying... np... tsavet tanem, em hartzees patasghanir, me vaghetsir.....

why would you not eat and compare it to not having sex??? lol.. anyways... i not argueing with anyone, eds right on this one... people will hradly listen to eachother in this case....its up to the individual and what he beleives or in some cases doesnt beleive....

well going into those chatrooms can hardly be considered cheating,, depending on what purpose you are goin in for.. Dan.. again your getting very offended at what i am saying, this is not a debate if you get offended... I know how long homosexuality has been around,, iv allready said so... and i was using cultural relativism as an explanation which is very coherent with this subject.. What dont you understand about my question that you do not want to answer it, your afraid of answering it, because it seems as though you have been in these types of stuations and someitmes answering wuestions you know come with more will get you into a situation where you and what you say are not credible anymore, i ask this siple question, now to anyone who wants to answer How many times will it take you, or is it even possible to throw 60 pennies down on the ground and get either all heads or all tails??? do tha math, or get 60 pennies and waste a few months,, but let me know.. anyone please, cause Dan is no gonna answer this question, iv allready asked im few times... DAN this is reffering to: GEVO you have answered the question though Are you implying you are born gay? clear this up please so i understand your statement...

CULTURAL RELATIVISM""" just to expand on this a little for those who have not studyied or heard of the term... This is what it gets down to, 1. Either there is a specific order to this world, the laws the rules, the limitations, whate you can/cant do (basically a right or wrong for something and/or anything) 2. Or you are culturally relative and blend in to the culture, and heck whynot start something new of your own.."cultural relativism" relates to the problem of the difference of societies from one city to another, from one nation to another. and again ironically most are based on some beleif system, let it be hindu, christianity budhism, islam etc... So if you were to be born in an islamic culture, then you are thaught that such and such is right, and such and such is wrong... well few hundred miles North you canbe born in a catholic houshold and have most of the times interferring rules, and laws. basically its saying that all cultures have the right to make there own rules, if that is to be you can ignore your newborn and let it die, such as various societies in Brazil, or you can offer your wife to the guests for one night, like the Exkimos do even to this day.. But i guess it would be narrowminded to say that it is wrong to let the sick children die, not feeding them, not caring for any of there needs... I guess its narrow minded to say that if you offer your wife to your guests thats pure WRONG! and freeckin disgusting and its adultury... If thats how you define narrowmindedness, then DAMN straight i am narrow minded.. OH OH ,,, and for the record everyone,, i cant read Dans mind,, or anyones mind for that reason... and i wouldnt even think of wanting to be able to.. i have my own problems.. LOL...

I thaught i had said for you to answer my question then i would tell you what it is relevent to.... trust me this is one of the simplest ways to make you understand my point... So answer the question Dan, and i will tell you what it relates to.. Ofcourse he doesnt, he is all loving, and he jis "JUST". look i can guess your next question allready iv answered it many times,,, "if he is just what did i do to see my parents, family members, etc... suffer and die, what did i do wrong that i have had such a hard life???" go ahead and ask....

Angel, i was just reffering to your saying "dud-jan" lol Dan, I am sitting here and just plain out LAUGHNG AT YOU!!! you have so many hypocrytical things in the last huge thing your wrote for me,, i not gonna waste time now to show them all.. I said lets talk on a more personal level thinking of IM or something, this way we dont have to take a confersation that will last 20-30 minutes into a month... anyways, God be with you, and your right he does love you.... But answer this question truthfully. ??? How many times will it take you to throw 60 pennies on the ground and have them land all either HEADS or TAILS......And if you want try it, you might be there for a while.... lol.. The chances of that mathematically are impossible bud, but answer the question and ill tell you why i asked it.. By the way, you are the only one getting so offended at what i have to say, I wonder WHY... And as far as me saying "IF" you are gay, i did not know for sure so i didnt want to make false statements... God be with you, and your right he does love you....

Everybody is kinda using this topic too widely... and some are way off topic.. lol.. But honestly i think and for various reasons, that a man and a woman should be virgins till there honeymoon.. because that honeymoon night you will never forget in your life... Virginity shows a sense of self control, a sense of good judgment. And ofcourse it shows that you can say no, or keep away from something that your body desires with a heating passion.... And if you can do that, then you will have a better marital relationship, cause you can control your self...

thats kewl Skittles, i couldnt tell your in armenia from your grammer...i would said US... Im 91208.. glendale

hyebruin, i can see what you mean sure, but still i dont think there is a problem with girls asking guys out... I havent asked a girl out (as a bf/gf thing) yet in my life, i only 19 so i got some time still.. but iv been asked out and i dont have a problem with it... Heck what hyebruin said could just as well go for guys....

I cant believe you Dan.... You are ignoring every arguement i make, and calling this a debate!!! You are insulting people, telling them what to do and you want things to be equal.. oh oh the best part here is you call me a hypocrit, and cant/dont state why...???? Ummm... answer to my """VIEW""" of this debate, you seem to like to argue with those who have a more secular argument than mine, but you completely deny religion...I think you are afraid of religion, because if you are gay (keyword "if") then you know what religion will do to you... It will make you be wrong about everything you have believed in apparantly your whole life... You cant stand hearing about God, and just say theres no profe he exists, but then you cant even prove your own atheistic view of this... I want an answer from you Dan, my first arguement was directed everyone in general, but you are pushing all the ther "targets" away and the scope is zooming on you.... So answer me dont be afraid, God wont strike you down... well probably not... DUD-JAN..... i love this saying angel.. thot wrot: WHY NOT? by discussing this issue with religious aspects, we are in no way interferring church and state, and again as armenians, we should. DAN DAN DAN... aye tsavet tanem, herika asses "open mindedness", ur karas hasnes openmindedness ov ara.... yes eh caram asem vor im shoonis het geesher karam anskatsnem,,yette asses che, yes el kasem do openmind ches... ankap baner es assum ara,,, amota, te vor asem amota kases yes openmindchem... LMAO... dont ignor me man, and then say you are in a debate... lol....

my new favorite saying,, thx angel.... dud-jan... my friends gonna love this one...

ALSO DAN You seriously think about this statement and then try to argue it again!!!!! No religion,, then the next most close to mind "theory" is the Big bang and we are all the outcome of absolute chance... WHAT THE HELL KIND OF ARGUEMENT IS THAT!!!??? LMAO.... iv heard it way to often.. i wanna see yours now DAN...

OH BOY AM I GONNA GET CRITICISED FOR THIS!!!!! Look, i know what i am getting myself into here,,, but i have the obligation to state this anyways... Davo is dang near right on almost all he has stated.... If You are Gay, then i can prove to you your are immoral, contact me on a more personnal level if you really want me to prove what you allready know... "Cultural relativism" has become the downfall of humanity, what makes it worst is everyone trying to be the most open minded,, that leads into its own fallacy's and hypocricies, Dan, I dont you know i am not speaking against you, but if you feel it that way then you have a problem. We should be relative to our religion, and that is Christianity, Davo has respect for what his ancestors have done, but Davo you need to have respect for you own future, "because remember, (if you have ever heard this phrase before) you live for eternity, and how you live your 1-100 years or so in this realm determines how you live for eternity" Jesus is the truth the way and the life, with him you will be saved without him you will suffer in damnation. That quote is posted in all of our armenian churches, @ armenia and the states... And if you are armenian shame on you that you do not know this phrase and live for it. Dont give me this "I have the right to choice" BS DAN.... pilot told jesus before he was crucified, "do you know i have the power to crucify u or let you go" and the beautiful response, "you would not have any power if it werent given to you from above"... You have free will, and the right to chose argument (about these sorts of things anyways) will earn you a first calss ticket to HELL... With all this religion in my post im sure you guys are thinking im a "ter-hayr" or something, no I am 19 yrs old,, and go to church regularly, and the more i learn, the more discouraged i am of our lovely Armenian youth... turning into, "aperos" and "rabiz lakotner" and agreeing with the present culture that,, hell its your choice... homosexuality was a sin God let take over Gomar for the disrespect the pepople of that nation showed to him for all he had given to them, and DANG staright its wrong, its immoral and straight out Disgusting... mankind didnt come with the option of female or male, not something you choose, it is what God decides for you... you have free will???

boy i hope thats when your married THOTH.... but the phrase ""turn ons"" kinda revert my attention to the more sexual side of things,,,, as to where turn offs is just something youdont like or see attractive... but i would have to say the number one thing for me would be if the lady doesnt "kartel" me about something of little significance to the quality of life.. lol... and i would have to agree with pretty much most (not all) of the other stuff u guys were saying..

Good forums guys,, first time posting on HYE FORUMS,, but great place,, have some cathcing up reading to do,, lol...