TashnagZinvor

hytga, please...your too proud to not be blinded. Have you ever looked at the Armenian people? Or perhaps DNA evidence? As well as Historical Armenian Manuscripts dating back to pre-christian Armenia of Mongol Generals and Mongol-Armenian alliances? Don't bother repyling, find information that proves me otherwise, then post. My dear child, Armenia is WEST of Mongolia.

..... I'm as much for the Armenian cause as Mapple Syrup is to Pancakes. Who ever said I was attempting acceptance by Europeans? I am a geneologist major, not a social major, I could care less what the majority of uneducated people think. I simply state what I have studied and what is proven to be fact by archaeological findings and human studies. If in any case you dont beleive in the practices of modern Science, refrane from using medication or anything else it has provided you with, and see how you enjoy your lifestyle. My struggle, is for my race, be it different from yours, is a struggle opposing what is considered racially acceptable. Lets be honest, Whites are outnumbered, are non-whites are whats in, Blacks are in the Media and in Music, and the White man is being racially ridicueled and persecuted. You are a very proud person, of what I have no clue? What logic are you trying to convery with your dispersed statements? The fever you speak of is just as common in Eskimos and Germans. It is inherittant of AS19 DNA allele, found in all populants of Eurasia and North Africa. Regroup your thoughts, and tell me what your trying to tell me, the white supremacist, Armenian hating? anti-arab??????????? Whuhh? Who dat Dawg? I am a depigmented Armenian. I dont know what more I can say to an obviously eastern armenian, judging by you claiming to be swarthy and hated on by whites. I am just as Armenian in lineage as any other. My racial classification and Western Armenian herritage are nothing for you to judge nor attempt to humiliate. Edited by Sasun

Your racial generalizations are also imposed on me, since I cannot claim to be anything other than the seemingly united ARMENIANS. Therefore, it is my destiny in every which way or form, the interests of both my Armenians, and yours, despite my disliking for them. Teutonic Knight I find it hard to beleive that you would know anything about geneology, and also find it hard for an Eastern Armenian, with an overwhelmingly non-white, non-european, irano-afghan influenced swarthy beings to be part of a white nationalistic group. In either case, the Armenians are not WHITE, therefore there is no way you are white unless you are depigmented in every aspect of the body hair and eyes, ultimately being a Nord. Which I find extremely hard to beleive. Perhaps you might display forms of Caucasian ancestry. Tell me, who are your "white" armenian nationlist friends? Id appreciate it if you called my by my proper screen-name, Deudonic Gnight.

Crazy in a sence that he would murder a renound Armenian political activist.

There is no point in arguing with someone who belongs to a culture that is socially, culturally and politically OUTCASTED. Have all the pride you want in what you claim to be whatever it is you stand for Edited by Sasun

MJ you quickly forget who Robart Kocharian and the leading generals in Artsakh politically belonged to. You forget which political group saved the "Armenian" nation from total erradication by means of Soviet assimilation, Azeri mass population during the second world world, and by Turkish claims of the land itself. The fighters of Turkish and Eastern Armenia, were Tashnags, there were no Hnchagians, or Ramgavar communists at the time. Tashnags, who stood for the liberation of Armenia, sadly enough the only thing that was liberated was your half of the nation. Bow down to the Tashnags and lick their feet, without them youd be more than a Half-Turk Hybrid. Youd be a full blown Islamicist.

A liberator of the Armenian cause, a martyr and true hero. Although a member of ASALA, different from the political group Tashnags, although similar in ideology, with affiliation with my Father and Uncle, in Lebanon, during the Maronite/Muslim wars, was said to be somewhat crazy. However, either way, any man willing to put his life on the life for the Armenian cause, that is what is ours, with will always be ours, what untill death prevents will soon be ours, OUR LANDS, was a man who the JEW (Forceful inhabitants of Israel, who afflict genocide on the peoples of palestine) classifies as a Terrorist. Truly hypocracy at its best. It is funny how those who are destroying of ones nation are sympathized for, and those who fight for their nation (Serbia, Greece, Croatia, Macedonia, Chechnya, Armenia) are classifyed as terrorists and anti-western???? Melkonian was nothing of the sort. No Turks life is of any value, when to this very day they culturally destroy Armenians, as well as politically and socially (to other nations, ultimately by means of politics and Jewry Media), and by means of populating our lands with Kurds (in WWII), along with genocidal inflictions on the inner nation of Ottoman Armenia. Melkonian is someone that Armenian youths should look up to. Why should we suffer a racial genocide, and be denied our Land, that is our right as human beings, to fight for our cause, and stand up for our cause. But no, the Armenians are a Christian Terrorist group, violentry attacking the Super Western Muslim Turks whos quest is for peace and justice, and eating lots of Kurdish Eminems. Truley Hypocracy, and we can all thank the Jewish media.

http://i-cias.com/e.o/ahhiyawa.htm We could both equally be wrong, it's a matter of preference. Considering Hittites crossed the Aegian to Asia Minor, I consider the Sea People.

I consider it an Honor that your people consider me "not of their race". Anyone who would want to be affiliated with Turkisized Irano-Afghans and Semites would have something loose in the head. I get racism from Hayastancis yes, calling me white boy, odar, and this and that. However I will always feel at home with the true Armenians, my Armenians.

ahh my mistake, i was thinking of HITTITES, who were reffered to as PEOPLE OF THE SEA, or PEOPLE OF A THOULSAND GODS, could hyk be similar to the word hov, or hoviv? shepherd?

Dear Arpa, OBVIOUSLY an Eastern Armenian, I was speaking of the Iranians who were muslim during the war of Avarayr, who were enemies of the Mongols and Central Asians. The legion of Tashnagtyutyamp was formed in 1920 during the time of Armenian-American co-operation to rebuild Armenia. Deals, which of coarse, widely focused on Western Armenia (Much larger than the Eastern half of caucasian Armenia). The Tashnags, started by members of the Western Armenian culture, who spoke Western Armenian, which follows Ayp, Pen, Kin, not Ah Buh Guh, did not spell it DASHNAK, which Eastern Armenians consider to be the write way to pronounce a Western Armenian word. Search for Tasnag political members, they are "ians" and not "yans". Just because you grew up speaking an Iranian dialect of Armenian, with the heavy G, BUH, JUH, etc, does not mean our Armenian, which is closer to KRAPAR, THE WESTERN ARMENIAN WAY OF PRONOUNCING IT, is NOT turkisized, on the contrary, your people are both culturally and physically more turkisized than the Bulgarians and Turks themselves. Why? Because they sing like Turks, talk like Turks, and despite the fact that Western Armenian lands were under Turkish power, LOOK LIKE Turks! ..... Do you call Ramgavars Rrrrramkavars? or Hnchagians Hnchakyans? If you dont, then Tashnags are not Dashnaks AG means of, or AGO in Greek. Who ever said Mashtots invented Latin? I was refering to Krapar as the "Latin to Armenians", like it is to Romans, had you cared to read more. Theres not really much I can say to someone like you, your culture is clearly nothing similar of mine. Its no wonder your people are hated at such a level that people in America and Russia consider you "nigger-like". Tashnagtytyamp, MER HOGHERUH MER HOGHERUH (NOT IMPLYING EASTERN ARMENIA), you have yours, we have ours. Edited by Sasun

No, instead you'd rather have it up to the Jew to control your destiny. Of coarse, it's the blind idiocy of the Armenian's to do so...

Harut dont think Im trying to make Armenians look like the wholy christian nation of God...I hate christianity, and all other Semite religions. If it were up to me I would erase christianity from the history of the Armenians and replace it with Kragapasht.

From Hebrew, its original text. I'm sure you as an educated historian know that Christianity was not socially acceptable in Roman culture untill after 600AD, when sooner or later Roman bassilicas would be transformed to Churches, and the first Latin Biblical Text would have been written. Armenian, was the second language the Bible was written and distributed as a nation and people. Greek alphabets were not printed untill Byzantium. You have to remember, that a book, was not printed in those days, but hand written, which came out to be a multi-million dollar government project so to speak. It wasnt something done everyday by the local printing factory. Im sure you also knew that the Armenian alphabet was created so that Mashtots, a christian, could provide the church with an entity to unite the Armenians? of coarse you did You also knew that Armenia was the first Nation to adopt christianity, making it social and legally acceptable? yep yep

Are the Ionians Greeks? Are the Greeks of today Macedonians? Are the Russians slavs? Were the slavs or the Urals Russians? Are Armenians today Urartu? Were the Urartus called Armenians?