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Sasun, I personally don't think that Americans are EVER going to leave Iraq. See, thats the thing with Americans, they never LEAVE. They set up a base there and stay FOREVER. Qatar for example, Americans have a base there since the Persian Gulf War. WHY???? Americans STILL have soldiers in Germany---hmm..---when was WORLD WAR II over???..... Thats the reason that nobody wants American soldiers in their country!!!!!! THEY NEVER LEAVE!!! P.S. Besides, Americans will probably stay in Iraq for A LONG time because they are trying to start something against Iran and Iraq is a nice Front for them. Don't you guys think so?

well, those decisions are WAY out of my reach, but, when the time comes, we'll see. For now, I just try to help out Armenia as much as I can. thats all!!!

I do, no doubt, we have accomplished a lot during those years, but, what i'm arguing about is that communis leaders could have done A LOT for Armenia and DIDN'T. (regarding to our territories). Now, it will be wrong to think accept communism because NO nation around us lives in communism, and no country that supports us lives in communism and we will lose a lot if we turn communists. DONT YOU THINK SO????? I think Shahumyan will also agree with me on that.

1. Literature --- we had literature since the alphabet was created. LITERATURE was one of the main subjects of Armenians that we are proud of. Communism or not, Literature WOULD have continued growing in Armenia one way or another because we Armenians LOVED and always will love it. For example (Narekatsi, Khorenatsi, Shirakatsi, and more.....) Art --- I can say the same thing about art. Look at our past Architechture. There was no communism when we built Ani, city of Thousand and One Churhces. Drama and Films --- Well, don't know much about that, sorry. (But I still dont see how communism influenced this) Music --- Our music also goes waaaayyy back. Sports (Ararat getting to Semis of Champions League) --- Can't argue that. Maybe we had better living standards back then so our players had time and willingness to practice on themselves and achieve something. Education --- I know that there had been A LOT OF PROPAGANDA on education. For example, communists didn't allow Armenians to study much about their own history. They even forbid Armenians to teach about the Genocide until the 50s or 60s (I'm not sure). Production --- Well, you're right about that one but I see our production rose because the roads were open and now are not. Full Employment --- I agree. Infrustructure --- What about it?

You know what Shahumyan, i'm sick and tired of saying what WRONG things communists did for Armenia. Now it's your turn, tell me about the GOOD things they have done. What did communism accomplish for Armenians? What did our communist leaders do for Armenia? Does your name represent Stepan Shahumyan? I see we have many cities and regions after his name. What did He do for Armenians? What GOOD did Lenin do for Armenia. What GOOD did Brejnev do for Armenia? The only good cummunist I can find is Krushchuv. Thats it.

what I means by that is that if you communists were so good to Armenia, why couldn't you keep Kars?, why couldn't you take Nachijevan and Artsax back after Stalin? Why did the communists oppose NJDEH when he wanted too keep zangezur? Why did those bolsheviks say that DRO was a terrorist when he faught the war of, Sardarapat, which is probably the only reason that Armenia exists TODAY? Trust me, communists could have done more for us(which would have only been fair regarding our losses from 1889-1918), but didn't!!!!

I agree!!!!

Ok Domino, mr. board member, you go ahead and ignore me and continue your discussion. I don't think I need to talk to you anymore since I just saw what kind of character you have!!! No wonder we Armenians can't unite, we get pissed off on everything. Post edited by Sip

Domino. Your post before was too long and i didn't feel like reading it and Domino doesn't seem like an armenian name or a word so i asked you a simple question "are you armenians?" if you are, thats fine. I wasn't trying to offend you or something!!!! --- Post edited By Sip.

If you communists are so good and fair, WHY COULDN'T YOU KEEP ARTSAKH?, WHY COULDN'T YOU KEEPS NACHIJEVAN?, WHY COULDN'T YOU KEEP JAVACHK? WHY DID YOU GIVE KARS TO TURKEY? WHY COULDN'T YOU KEEP OUR FIRST REPUBLIC(1918-1921) TOGETHER? WHY DID YOU DIVIDE ARMENIA APART? YOU WANTED TO GIVE ZANGEZUR TO AZERBAIJAN TOO AND IF IT WASN'T FOR NJDEH, THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Domino-----You Armenian???

Dear Shahumyan: You're right, there is all sorts of corruption in Armenia, BUT, the same thng is going on in every former USSR country. Even in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia which are sort of MORE advanced. In case of Armenia, the ROADS ARE CLOSED. We got NOWHERE to go. No matter who the president is, its gonna be the same. I promise you, you will not see ANY difference if somebody else sits on the THRONE. The good thing about Kocharyan is that he cooperates with Russia and that keeps the turks away at the moment. WE NEED TO REBUILD. OUR NATION HAS BEEN ABUSED FOR CENTURIES. STARTING 1991, WE ARE STARTING EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH. IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE GONNA GET EVERY SINGLE LAND THAT HAS BEEN STOLEN(not conquered) FROM US BACK. WHEN WE DO THAT, OUR ECONOMY WILL RISE BECAUSE NOW WE WILL HAVE A BETTER MARKET BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ROUTES INTO BOTH EUROPE AND ASIA. All this is gonna take time. 10, 20, 30, 50, or 100 years---it doesn't matter. We WILL get better eventually. And remember, we have a 3,000 year old history, so 100 years is nothing. Our task is to help out our country as much as we can and don't feel bad about the corruptions, those take time also.

ANOUSHIK, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE (LIKE YOURSELF) WHO USE THEIR BRAIN TO THINK AND DON'T RELY ON WHAT THE MEDIA THINKS. Kocharyan IS the best leader we can have right now. To be blockaded by two LONG borders (Turkey and Azerbaijan), to get no respect, no friendship, and no help (as one would say "to get ass") from one other side (Georgia), and to rely on a country who is not liked by many people around the world (Iran), and LIVE IN BETTER CONDITIONS THAN GEORGIA AND AZERBAIJAN IS GOT TO BE A BRAVE PERFORMANCE. Azerbaijan has tons of oil that they sell and make TONS of money off of. They can fill up their budget instantly. Georgia has the Black Sea which they can use to go to Europe. This means better trade and BETTER economy. We ARMENIANS have NONE OF THESE ADVANTAGES, but we still live better than these two. HOW about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!LOL!!!LOL!!! WOW!!!, ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY TURKS TO REWRITE HISTORY THEY WERE NOT PART OF. AHAHAHA!!!! MAN!! YOU GUYS CANNOT IMAGINE HOW HARD AM I LAUGHING. STUPID TURKS!!!! ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD KNOW HOW TO FIND THE REAL STORY ABOUT URARTANS. WHAT A BUNCH OF JOCKEYS!!!!

It depends on what happened. I mean, you SHOULD forgive somebody if they are sorry for what they have done. If they're not sorry, then it's kind of hard to forgive them you know. Turks, for example, killed so many Armenians and STOLE our lands. They have caused so much pain to us. Do you guys think they should be forgiven? I, personally, probably would forgive them IF they show that they are sorry for what they have done and fix their mistakes. (FIRST STEP of asking for forgiveness is admiting your mistakes). Then, its up to God.