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lets reclaim our cat, The native Armenian pisik Van Cats An Armenian cat strikes it big in the international cat world--as a Turk TourArmenia The Van cat is considered a rare breed, one of the most beautiful and certainly the most unusual breeds of a cat ever known. Vans have a long history dating back to the earliest records of Van and ancestral Armenia. They are indigenous to the Van region in the heart of historic Armenia (present day Turkey), particularly to the city of Van, on Vana Lich (Van Lake). The cat is a natural breed, no human selection or cross-breeding has been used to establish the breed. They are also very unique, the only cats that are known to naturally swim. Vans are a bigger breed then other cats, with predominantly white fur. The Van cat's eyes are always large with eyes of three types: both eyes amber, both eyes blue, or one amber and one blue. Most of the stories about the Van cat seem to be about the blue and amber color eyed cats, perhaps because their eyes seem more expressive. Its skin is shell-pink, and its ears have long, delicately curved inner tufts, sometimes with 'feathers' on the tips. Van cats can easily be trained, if treated sensibly, and apparently love to be with human beings. The only other colors are an amber tail and amber marks to the head. Origin Historic records show the Van cat on cliff-side carvings in the van region from the middle bronze age, especially proliferating in carvings done by Assyria and Urartu, the latter a forebear of the Armenian race. But as with much of what was originally Armenian, the Van cat has been mistakenly mislabeled as Turkish, which is a cause of controversy. The cat was first exported to the West from present-day Turkey in 1955 by Laura Lushington and Sonia Halliday, two British women who were travelling through Turkey. They noticed that the cats particularly around the area of Van in current Eastern Turkey bore a remarkable resemblance to the traditional Angora type, which were heretofore known by outsiders as "Turkish cats". The most noticeable difference however was that the coat was not pure white, but had auburn head markings and a faintly ringed auburn tail. Laura brought two unrelated cats back to Britain, and when they were mated they produced kittens bearing the same auburn markings. It was at this point that Laura realized that this was a natural breed, and not man-induced. When the club set about registering the breed, she registered the Van Cat prefix and added the word "Turkish" to the name, following the example of a Van Cat club in Turkey. However, carvings and inscriptions found in Assyrian and Urartian records showing the cat as a favored animal or deity predate the Turkish existence in the area by 2000 to 3000 years, causing no end of consternation to present day Turkish historians. Van cats have been the symbol of Van and the city of Van since at least the middle bronze age, some archeologists believing they developed around the same time as the Armenian Plateau cultivated wheat and livestock, beginning around 14,000 BC. One of the early records of white, semi-long hair cats with ringed tails and colour on their heads were carvings on jewelry by the Hittites (1600-1200 BC), cousins to the Armenian race. The Urartians (1st millenium BC) who settled in the City of Van (Tushpa) carved ringtail cats on ornaments. Archaeological finds in Van province of relics possibly from an ancient battle during the occupation of Armenia by the Romans (AD 75-387), including battle standards and armor bearing images of a large pale self colored cat showing distinctive rings on the cat's tail. Even more recently, during the excavation by the British Archaeological Institute in Ankara of a late Neolithic (7000 years ago) site near Hacilar, 22 small terracotta statues said to be women playing with cats were found on one level. Because of this discovery some scientists now question the long held belief that cats were first domesticated in Egypt. Ironically, the Turks now have a special section on their government web site about the cat, recounting that their ancestors called this cat "pisik". Pisik is a pure Armenian root word, meaning "kitten", "piso" being cat. It appears Turks want their ancestors to be Armenian, or perhaps they at least want to admit how much of their culture is due to cultures like Armenia. Anyway, Van Cats have an international breed name of Turkish Van cat, Turks use the Armenian word 'Pisik', and it is properly called the Van Cat. http://www.tacentral.com/features.asp?story_no=5

Maral jan I just hit a big jokpot today, can I get a hug also

congradulations Sasun jan, I'm happy for you, you owe us a magarich

Shiner, How does an economy get stronger anyways? By criticizing? Yes maybe, that’s easy, maybe we got to work against the cause of it, the corruption. How do you think Armenian current corruption will go away? ah maybe some day miracle will happen wile we sit here in our comforts, discriminating soft tissue from the rough <_< , maybe then IF Armenia gets clean none corrupt society we can proudly post in forum about our collective achievements By the way, do you read Armenian? If yes, Look for a book by Armenian author NAR-DOS, novel is called ARAQYALNER. You’ll understand what I mean

Gemavor, to echo your words I would add, the fact there was large Armenian well educated community in Baku at the turn of the century who actually contributed the oil industry in Azerbaijan, and since 1988 Baku resembles waist land, there was an article in some magazine regarding this. As fact Azeri’s pay far much more for oil Azerbaijan then Armenians in Armenia.

09.09.2004 07:10:00 GMT Iran offers to assist in settling Nagorno-Artsax conflict Yerevan. (Interfax) - Iran is ready to assist in settling the Nagorno-Artsax conflict, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami told the Armenian parliament on Wednesday. Khatami is in Yerevan on a two-day official visit. "Iran is interested in peace and stability in the South Caucasus and is prepared to assist in settling all conflicts in this region," Khatami said, adding that Iran is also interested in a peaceful settlement of the Artsax conflict. Khatami also spoke about democracy and democratization in different parts of the world. He said that while speaking about democracy in a "non-Western region" one should take the principles and norms of this region into account. Democracy in such instances should be interpreted more broadly, he said. Iran had been voicing its readiness to assist in the settlement of the Nagorno-Artsax conflict earlier, as well. Teheran believes that the settlement of the Nagorno-Artsax conflict should not lead to the introduction of military contingents from countries outside the South Caucasus into the region.

Armenian nationalism is not a necessity but its a good way of self preservation, when countries, people, ethnic group such as Armenians get nationalistic approach to there patriotism there can be no threat to world peace, on contrary we all know what happens when Germans, Japanese, French, Americans, Turks etc…. get nationalistic. Especially now days when Armenian nation and country have difficult times nationalism plays a very positive and constrictive role. Of course when I say nationalism I don’t mean views expressed here by some, more like what TB mentioned.

Since you have the arrogance to go this far, why not tell us who are the real so called low life’s here

sure Lady, its done check it out at new jokes

Ok you are on your own to dig it Nairi, this one is for you A joke for Nairi մի որ մի մարթ անցնումե մի փողոցով, տեսնումե մեռել են տանում, մոտենում է մի տղայի հարցնում է, թե էս ով ե մեռել??? ես տղան ել բա զոնքանչս ե մեռել ախպեր ջան, բա ես ինչու եք դագաղը կողքի վրա տանում?? ուղիղ մեջքի վրա ենք տանում խռռացնում է

All evidence to contrary by the way did I ever said I admire your sence of humor also?

հրաշալի է Նաիրի ջան, իսկ դու ասումես հայերեն չես խոսում

Highlander, Steve, aka Bellthecat, he is not Armenian and I would sagest take a look at this thread and maybe then you'll realise yours and Vigils offencive words were uncalled for, therefore I did what I had to do, make your posts invisable till admistration and moderating team have a say at this. And, no matter if it was directed to Steve or any other member, and specially to a moderator of this board, you'll win no sympathy by bringing cheap redbrick and name calling, therefore, my fellow Armenian, as a moderator I did what I had to do, remove your and Vigils posts from public view, and till I see a courteous respectful redbrick from both you and Vigil and who ever will offend others ( regardless of there nationality) your posts containing offensive words will be censored and eventually bring termination of membership to Hyforum. Thanks for your cooperation

Gurgen, most who can afford left, there are lots of descent people in Armenia who are basically lack very basic necessities, those who skin the ordinary folk are a very small but powerful minority and have monopoly over almost everything starting from basic goods to government control, the changes such as funding and bringing social justice it must be implemented. First and foremost you got to start by cleaning the house from those vultures.

why do feel like she wont let you get away easy after reading this?

what happend to you girl? its still here

I moved you misplaced post Stormig and welcome back

Easy and effective way of doing this is introduction of national sales tax on most consumer goods (excluding food) for example cigarettes and alcohol is ridiculously cheap, luxury tax is another way of doing it, the problem isn’t introduction of those and similar majors, the problem is the implementation of such, wile most educated are leaving the country vultures are taking over

If the trend continues there will be no athletes who will represent Armenia in 2008, at list in a thru sense of the word when I say athletes. But in the other hand, expect to find lots of Armenians who will represent other countries.

Armen interesting, I doubted if the move has anything to do with morality, on the contrary this move by Israel IMO is just the opposite, using AG as a wild card to gain Turkish attention, most resent comments by Turkish PM and Turkish criticism in general of treatment of Palestinians, this has become a habit already in US to threaten Turks with resolution on AG, most recent in 2003 just before the war.

Vigil have you realised today you spoke for the first time negativly about Armenians?!! wow, and you are very wrong! you must of been thinking about jewish girls I'm personaly disipointed at you buddy <_<

would someone tell me if these words are Armenian or not? becouse we use it in daily basess.....................janit ghurban bala jan and I think the word hajis is sweet no matter if its Armenian or not but i havent come across any arab who uses this word, mostly i agree with harut, khajenas, hajenal, hajis is just short version. inch kasess Arpa jan?

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Ludwig, There are many Humans who don’t believe in existence of god, be that word per say or divine one, and also I think jgm expressed it correctly from his point of view, assumptions are not necessary in regards to ones humanity, Maybe contradictory to your views or understanding of what God is, I haven’t come across to adequate answer true out my life and I reserved the right to understand what God or who he/it is. That does not exclude me as human! But basically the word God is simply a reference to the creator, the divine one.

Armen, you were to modest in your reply, in this idiots case full and worthy response is much suitable.