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i just dont understand how do you choose your etnicity?? citizenship? maybe but ironic!! as if there was nothing else to debate on, as far as I know you could choose to become Jew if you wished, but there not even an etnic group.

tesaq mernelus or@ chgitem axxxxx

ay tgha tti oxin ho chem xmelu ya? et masage hamare, menq gray goose kxmenq kamel Ararat Shiraz. hastat Movsesi akajner@ varvuma, ura chka mi dzen tveq ga

ber, tghamartes xoskit ternes, hamel Movsesi yerevanum harevanuhu kenatsnel kxmenq

my zongach is here with us, I have a fever (102), I'm sick, and dont have any tti oghi!! Azat chpsakves, lsumes?

du et avatarov djvar te darnas Rubo jan

che Azat jan ankyun mtnox, kangnox chem parzapes meqenayis milagesa avelanum sarsapeli es orerin. tsetsel? de du el etes uzum che? hamel shat en sirum qez yeritasard, kamel bidzu teghen drell

ayo Mosjan Sasun-ine, bayts Flora Martirosyani pes katarox chke sa yerq@. vay vay vay es inch anush qefe~~~~~~~q arel erek gisher

The song which played number of times during the day, with a white horse a lady with a dove, Ararat in the background, Michael Poghosyan, Sushanik Petrosyan, Hayko, and so many others............I nice peace of work I enjoyed it very much Where did you get the idea Hayastanitsis ware suspicious? It was a collective effort of Armenian Diaspora and I'm very proud of what we have achieved today, I just hope the momentum will be carried on with the same spirit in the future! last year was 6.5 million if i remember correctly

its a great feeling indeed its not even 1pm here in west cost and we are allready 5.3 million, I expect the numbers to be in at list 10 million by the days end

I know Armat, and wile reading passion filed and articulate aggressive posts by our respected members in this topic suddenly I remember an age old wisdom. Rage and arguments are the most effective aphrodisiacs, so I remember, not in so distant past.

Misunderstanding Hello friend, I was referring with my question as, when you said Charents was of Iranian origin you meant the word Charents or Charents as a person And there is little information is know as to where was Carnets was born; most biographers would agree Charents was born in eastern Iran, probably Tabriz or even Esfahan, surrounding arias. Anyhow its not that important, what is importance is his works which I and cherish so much. By the way Thanks for the Turabian link, did you translate it your self?

are you refering of the word Charents or Charents the poet? Just a bit of info on Charents, Yeghishe Soghomonyan was born in 1897, March 13 in Kars, one of the former capitols of Armenia, currently located in North-Eastern Turkey. Born into a family of tradesman, he became one of the legendary figures of Armenian art and anti-Soviet activism. His works have fostered generations of patriotic Armenians and have been translated and read by peoples as diverse as the subjects on which he wrote. One of the leaders of the literary elite of the Soviet Union, his poetic dynamism and musical modality set him apart as one of the most inspired poets—not Armenian poet, but poet—of the twentieth century. The ever socially conscious writer, Charents covered topics such as civil war in Russia and Armenia, world communism, famine, poverty, World War I, the Bolshevik Revolution of Red October 1917 and everyday life. Langston Hughesesque in his negotiation of social ills and the state of his people, Charents found that the essence of these ideas lay within the history of his people and within nationalism. Actually, considering that Charents and Hughes were relative contemporaries of one another, Hughes could equally be called Charentsesque—in either case, I’m sure neither would mind the epithet. At first, inspired by Communist utopianism, he spurred his fellow countrymen to fight for the victory of Communism and Leninism in Armenia and abroad. As he later experienced the realities of the Soviet brand of communism he became a famous anti-Soviet, gradually increasing the nationalistic tone in his works. His political dissidence led to his arrest by the Armenian NKVD (same as KGB) on the orders of Moscow during the Great Purge, and his further imprisonment and ultimate death at the age of forty in the jail for political dissidents in Yerevan. At age fifteen, Charents enlisted as a volunteer in an Armenian self-defense regiment fighting Turks in Van. His active participation in the national struggle to defend his homeland, inspired Charents to write such major works as: “Danteesque Legend” (Danteakan Araspel, 1916), “Three Songs to a Pale Girl” (Erek erg tkhradaluk aghjkan, 1914), “Blue-Eyed Homeland” (Kaputachia Hyerenik, 1915), and “Rainbow” (Tsiatsan, 1917). In 1916, Yeghishe Charents went to Moscow, to pursue literary studies at the Shaniavskii Institute. Immediately following the October Revolution of 1917, he put himself into the service of the Soviet Union, where he actively fought within the Red Army against Armenian and Russian nationalists from 1918-1921. During that time, Charents wrote other significant poetic pieces, including “Soma” (1918), and “The Demented Crowds” (Ambokhnere Khelagarvats, 1919), which became one of the most respected Soviet poems about the October Revolution. Thereafter, in June of 1921, Yeghishe Charents married Arpenik Ter Astvatsatrian, who passed away less than seven years after they were married. The year after their marriage, Charents published, in two volumes, a collection of his poems entitled, Collected Works (Ergeri Zhoghovatsu), which became widely available throughout the Soviet Union. Charents spent 1924 and 1925 as a Soviet diplomat, traveling throughout the Armenian Diaspora, visiting Italy, France, Germany, Turkey and other countries, urging Diasporan Armenian writers to return to Armenia, and continue their literary work there. After Charents returned to Armenia, in 1925, he and a group of other talented Armenian writers including: Gegham Sarian, Gurgen Mahari, Vagharshak Norents, Mkrtich Armen, and Aksel Bakunts founded a literary organization called the Association of Armenian Proletarian Writers. Unfortunately, many of his colleagues mentioned here were either deported to Siberia, or shot or both, under Stalin’s regime. During the years following 1925, Charents published his satirical novel, Land of Nairi (Yerkir Nairi), which rapidly became a great success among the people. Later on, Charents became the director of Armenia’s State Publishing House, while he continued his literary career, and began to translate, into Armenian, literary works by various writers like: Pushkin, Nekrasov, Esenin, Maiakovskii, Goethe, Gor'kii, Remard Verhaeren, Walt Whitman and others. Charents also published such famous novels as: Rubayat (1927), Epic Dawn (Epikakan Lussapats, 1930), and Book of the Road (Girk Chanaparhi, 1933). The last collection in this list, also the last book he ever published, contains his reflections on Armenia's past, the folk epic David of Sassun, verses on art, and cultural and philosophical lyrics. In one of his most famous poems, more infamous probably, called "The Message", written in Book of the Road, Charents, supposedly praising the greatness of Stalin, transmits a hidden message to the Armenian people by stringing together the second letter of each line: "Oh! Armenian People, Your Salvation Lies Only in Your Collective power" (Ov Hye Zhoghovourd, ko miak prkootyune ko havakakan uzhi mej eh). The message, deemed “nationalistic” by the Soviet regime, was banned and earned Charents heavy criticism and ridicule in the communist Armenian press. Some of Charents’ loyal supporters, however, including famous Armenian intellectuals such as the chief architect of Yerevan Aleksandr Tamanyan and folk Artist Martiros Saryan spoke in defense of Charents’ work. But shortly after the release of Book of the road Yegishe Charents was arrested and later died on November 29, of 1937. While officially the circumstances of Charent's death were not confirmed by the Armenian communist government of the time, it was said that Charents was on a hunger strike, during which, he is said to have banged his head against the walls until he killed himself. After a famous speech by Anastas Mikoyan (Armenian official within Moscow's government elite), on March 11, 1954, Egishe Charents was rehabilitated into the cannon along with many other Armenian Soviet writers, who fell victim to Stalin's reign of terror. The legacy of Charents and his works now stand proudly and firmly within the cannon of Armenian literature. And many of his words and thoughts have become national slogans and emblems of Armenian unity, even to the extent that they have been printed on official government documents in nationalistic support of unity. The following poem was transliterated by Grigor Hakobyan. Yes im anoush Hayastani arevaham barn em sirum, Mer hin sazi voghbanvag, latsakumats larn em sirum. Arnanman tsaghikneri ou varderi buyre varman, Ou nairian aghjikneri hezachkun parn em sirum. Im karotats srti hamar voch mi urish hekiat chka Narekatsu, Kuchaki pes lusapsak chakat chka Ashkharh antsir Ararati nman chermak gagat chka Inchpes anhas parki champa yes im MASIS sarn em sirum. -Eghishe Charentz Source: The Reference Guide to Modern Armenian Literature, by Gevorg Bardakjyan courtasy of http://www.usanogh.com/articles/article.php?story_id=50 Note, although the site does not mention about Charents being born in Iran, and which is true in fact, but regardless of this, Charents was from an Armenian origin. By the way Chranets and Paruyr Sevak are my most loved Armenian poets, and it’s hard to imagine Sevak without influence of Charents. Regards

urer Vartushin, ayyyy tu tu tu Azatin edpes baxt.

gnatsinq, ha iskapes es mer Azat@ ura chka, esel 3 ora chka, hmmmm hastat siraharvatsa h@@???

you? you'll be drunk before they will be bro why dont I come and make your wish come thru ah?

Anushig jan your young and I understand, and we wish to die a glorios death, worthy of a human being with dignaty and honor but........ see I have a 76 year old father, for the last 5 years his health is deteriated and just past week he fell and broke his hip, now he is confined to a hospital bed and cant move for another 3 weeks, and all this time, in past years he was sick, always had to mantion he wants to live, but life he lived was not worth leving, he is my father and I always pray for him to go in peace die with dignaty but I guess I wont understand how life is so sweet for not wanting to let go with all costs.

Are you saying atheists are incapable of love? Just because they defer in there vision of what’s best for humanity and for this world? And how do you explain Bush who believes in God yet is a mass murderer?

Inchpisi heros @nkerner meran meran,!!! chkoran! *************************** Hayastan aselis es mah@ um shunne? *******************************

this is good a one, got to love jewish humor Kosher Computer While in Israel I found a great buy on a computer. It is a kosher computer, called a DELLSHALOM. It was selling at such a good price that...well... Mine arrived today. If you or a friend are considering a kosher computer, you should know that there were some important upgrades and changes from the typical computer you are used to, such as: The cursor moves from right to left. It comes with two hard drives-one for fleyshedik business software and one for milchedik games. Instead of getting a "General Protection Fault" error, my PC now gets a "Ferklempt" error. The Chanukah screen savers include "Flying Dreidels". The PC also shuts down automatically at sundown on Friday evenings. After my computer dies, I have to dispose of it within 24 hours. The "Start" button has been replaced with a "Let's go! I'm not getting any younger!" button. When disconnecting external devices from the back of my PC, I am instructed to "Remove the cable from the PC's tuchus." The multimedia player has been renamed to "Nu, so play my music already!" Internet Explorer has a spinning "Star of David" in the upper right corner. I hear "Hava Nagila" during startup. Microsoft Office now includes "A little byte of this, and a little byte of that." When running "scandisk," it prompts with a "You want I should fix this?" message. When my PC is working too hard, I occasionally hear a loud "Oy Gevalt!" There is a "monitor cleaning solution" from Manischewitz that advertises that it gets rid of the "schmaltz und drek" on your monitor. After 20 minutes of no activity, my PC goes "Schlaffen." Computer viruses can now be cured with some matzo ball chicken soup. The Y2K problem has been replaced by "Year 5760-5761" issues. If you decide not to shut down the computer in the prescribed manner, the following message appears "You should be ashamed of yourself." When Spellcheck finds an error it prompts "Is this the best you can do?" And so it goes...Oy!

Gems this is hellerios man Arithmetic Class Mrs. Goldman, the 6th grade teacher, posed the following problem to one of her arithmetic classes: "A wealthy man dies and leaves ten million dollars. One-third is to go to his wife, one-fifth is to go to his son, one-sixth to his butler, one eighth to his secretary; and the rest to charity. Now, what does each get?" After a very long silence in the classroom, Little Morris raised his hand. The teacher called on Little Morris for his answer. With complete sincerity in his voice, Morris answered, ... "A good lawyer!"

spyware doctor, I have been using it and it works great, no more spying for me, Rubo I'll send you the program with the key Domino no key for you anless i see the key ( you know for what)

yerevi vtangavore ha Vahe jan ?

Poor Russians I think the language is an inheritance from soviet era when it was very common to refer Armenians from USSR as Russian-Armenians. To Americans in most part, USSR was Russia, but if you paid close attention another ethnic group such as Jews who commit crimes, the media is so sensitive referring it as Jewish criminals, or Russian Jews, it is just Russian, Russian mafia, I was watching a program on investigative reports about red mafia, and there activities here in the US. Large number of Jewish criminals were emigrated and expelled to US (by the way, every single family who came here in US originally had an Israeli visas and just obtained a political refugee status in Europe) in early 80’s mostly to Brighton beach NY, and some here in LA engaging in every criminal act but during the whole program you hardly heard the word Jewish.

de hents estexen asell ays xosk@ mi bartsi choranaq