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very well said

I am sure if you walk along the Great Wall, you'll find someone dressed in black pants, white shirt, wearing sunglasses and eating sunflower seeds and wearing a big ass gold Armenian cross LOL

good news indeed

I just donated $100 and urge everyone here to donate as much as they can

You know they say every people deserve their government, so blaming only the Turkish government for 90 years of denial is not enough.

If I was in LA I would definately join

the site has been around for a while. Good site though, and it's free

hehe, nice post. I wish all Armenians think like you

This story is just horrific. These people and I am reffering to Azeri's are nothing but animals. Here is the link: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...menian_killed_2

What a great post, almost made me cry Could not of said better myself.

They die because of different mistreatments. Last year I think around 70 soldiers died because of that. It is really sad, instead of cherishing and protecting every soldier that the Armenian Army has, it kills them. Most of my friends who went to the army came back with some disease, from which also lots of soldiers die. Also lots of fights break out between soldiers, which lots of times results in murder. The general living conditions in the Armenian Army is terrible, and that should be a shame to the Armenian government.

As many of you said, there will be total chaos. Western and Eastern Armenians just don't get along that easily. Both are stubborn and think they are right. I remeber when I was leaving Yerevan last summer and as I was standing in line at the British Airways booth at Zvartnoc airport, two doctors from U.S. were talking to each other how it was useless explaining something to the people in Armenia. They said they could not find a common ground and were very dissapointed. Just my thoughts.

It was Svoy Raff's funeral. I remember it very well. On that day, all of the main roads in Yerevan were renovated. And most of the Yerevan got electiricity for one day during the funeral, so the city would not look dim. People all around the world came to his funeral. It was like a president was put to rest, cause the funeral was unbelievable.

well you are always welcome to go and live over there

What pride??? I do not know about the Armenians here, but the Hayastancis lost their pride after Gorbachev sold the USSR to America. Have you even been to Armenia? People beg for money on every conrner and people starve and you are talking about pride, please. It's more important to feed your family than starve but have your pride. I lived during the horror years in Armenia, where we had no electricity, bread nor heat and you had to do everything to survive. So don't go judging Hayastancis. They come here for a better life and why not get some money from the government. That money is wasted on stupid wars and goes the black families who lived all their lives here. Right now pride means nothing to people who come here with nothing and have to start all over again. So my advice to the people who judge Hayastancis is to go to Armenia and live there with the salaries that people receive there and then we will talk about pride.

Why should the hispanics and blacks milk the U.S. and not the Armenians? Gotta take advantage while you can. There is an Armenian saying, "ovor kerela u xmela, dran halala"

Actually there is a black barmen who works I forgot the name of the hotel in Yerevan, and he speaks Armenian.

As being of a Kurdish origin shame on you for making this thread. You should know better how thousands of Kurdish people have been killed and still being killed by Turks. As for the points you have made it just shows how clueless and uneducated you are. "why Ottoman Empire had waited 500 years to kill the Armenians, who were accepted as the loyalist minority in the empire by the Ottomans?" Maybe because the Ottoman Empire was loosing the majority of all its territories by the end of the WWI and shall we say desperate times call for desperate measures. And thats exactly what happened. Desperate to preserve the Eastern Anatolia, the Ottoman Government started to "deport" the Armenian population from there ancestral lands. "how could be the members of the unwanted nation in the empire occupying the most important places in the Ottoman government’s directory, such as in the foreign office?" That was way before the Young Turks and the new government which formed I believe in 1912. Before that the Ottoman Empire was ruled by Sultan Abdul Hamid under whom the Armenians, still were killed and repressed, but still had much freedom. It was after the Young Turks and their Pan-Turkish ideologies that changed the way the Ottoman Empire views its "Gavurs" as you call them. "how could be the traders of this unwanted nation, the richest persons of the empire, if the Armenian minority was unwanted or a genocide was contemplated on it, there would be no need to allow them be rich?" Again, we are talking about different periods in the Ottoman Empire. The ideologies of the Empire drastically changed after the Young Turk revolution, which overthrew the Sultan. And thats when Armenian elites and intellectuals started to be persecuted, because when you cut the head of a person, the body can not exist without it. "if Ottoman executed a genocide on this nation, why it didnt touch to the Armenians in the west part of Anatolia or how could Armenians lived in Turkey till now, there are many Armenians particularly in the west now, there are also many armenian churches in turkey? is there a mosque in Armenia now?" Now this statement just plainly shows that you have no clue in politics nor in history. First of all there are less than 60,000 Armenians left in Turkey and a lot of them converted to Muslim to avoid persecution and death. There is a reason why the Armenians in west part of Anatolia and Constantinople were not openly slaughtered like the ones in East. Now, all the governemnt buildings and all the European, U.S and other tourists, journalists, traders were in Constantinople and what would they say and report back to their countries, when they saw Armenians being killed right in front of their eyes. Acutally there are lots of eye-witness accounts by many German, British, French, Dutch, U.S. missionaries who reported how Armenians were being brutally killed by the Turkish soldiers. PLEASE READ THE BLUE BOOK by James Bryce and Arnold Toynbee. As for the Armenian churches in Turkey, I think you are smoking too much weed. They are being destroyed as we speak my blind friend. Khachkars, which date back god knows when are being used as building stones to build houses for the Kurds. And the churches are used to store hay for cows. Isn't it obvious. This is a deliberate actions by your government to destroy the last remains of our civilization. "what was the position of the Armenians in the first world war an also their relationship with outsiders?" Ok, this is the only intellectual and relevant question that you asked. Armenians were always loyal to the Ottoman rulers, starting from the Sultans to the new government that formed in the 1910's. Did you also know that the Armenians supported the Young Turks in their quest to seize power from the Sultan Abdul Hamid? Because they hoped that this new and more secular governemnt would help them. But what happened next? Nothing changed, and even got worse. Now the plan of the Young Turks was clear, to clear Turkey of all the minorities. Read Zoya Gukalp, as his writings inspired the Young Turks. So Armenians being again killed and driven away from their homes, turned to the Russians, with whome we had long historic ties. They had no other choice. It's either being killed or helping the Russians. I think you would choose the same thing. So I would recommend you to read some more history books, instead of coming to this board with your nonsense and portraying yourself as an idiot, because thats what you just did.

exactly

Very interesting thread and very interesting replies. In my opinion Diaspora Armenians are more Armenian inside than Hayastanci Armenians. When I first came to U.S. at the age of 15 I used to think the opposite and used to criticize Diaspora Armenians. But this changed a lot as I saw how much the Diaspora Armenians do to preserve our Armenian culture and how much aid they send to Armenia, which sadly goes to the pockets of the government officials. I was amazed how an Armenian family donated $1.8 million dollars to the university I go to (Clark University), so they would start a course on Armenian Genocide. Now we also have a course on Armenian History. I could never imagine a Hayastanci Armenian donating that much money for Armenian causes. I know there are lots of differences between the Hayastanci and Diaspora Armenians, but we should not forget that we originated from the same ancestors and that we have a common goal, to preserve our rich culture and help our motherland, that is run by corrupted people. I would just love to see the Armenian government to be handed over to Diaspora Armenians. Armenia could of achieved more, if those deadbeats weren't sitting on top. Anyways, I just want to say thank you to all the Diaspora Armenians for preserving our culture and helping Armenia, even though many of you never been to Armenia.

Declassified CIA Reports Acknowledge Artsax Part of Armenia. This should shut some Azeri's up. Here is the article: http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg72633.html

No, sorry

I hope that his plan works out, even though I find it very unlikely that so many different Armenian organizations around the world with their different views can come together. But it is worth a try. It is very crucial for us to unite and work together, especially now.

Domino, Nice post, I actually read the whole thing As for Nasionalist.....get a life. Your country lost and WILL ALWAYS BE A LOSER LIKE YOU !

You guys probably did not live in Moscow or Yerevan to know what's going on there. One of the most famous "thief in law" by the name of "Svoy Raff" in Moscow was Armenian. Also another one was "Professor", whose name if you mentioned in any part of the city, people knew him. I know it is hard for Armenians to work together as a group, but believe it or not Armenian mafia in Russia in huge and has a name. Georgians and Chechens are the "street thief" kind of mafia. The Armenians are more "legit" and try not to be in the spotlight too much.