Kazza

Yes, rubo, the kids do work hard. You know when it's just pushy parents, but comes from the child itself. If you read the article, this child taks breifly about how he was happy to attend, not because it's the easy life but because he wanted to study hard and do his best. It's really cool, isn't it! Cool about the chess too, but I don't understand one bit of the game myself! I just appreciate being happy for them. Seaphan, yes, the kid must be happy he's left school, because knowing the pupils from when I was there, they WOULD react like that! "It'a all because of you!" and having school bags thrown in the corridor. A bit Bart. But seriously, I thought of that, about the ian being a common persian ending too (I think that's mabye wehre we got the idea? I think MJ was the one who sugessted that? MJ help me out?) so I typed the full name in google with "persian"and loads of results came up about armenian sergeant majors in Iran. Perhaps the parents called him the first name, as they were living in Iran?

*No exaggerations, it's true! I was pretty surprised when I heard the story!* The school that I used to attend, Christ Church C of E, was thought of as a small, caring church school while I was there. About a year after I finished, it started going downnhill pretty rapidly in a short space of time and was described in the local newspapers as a "problem" school. After various inspections the governors were seriously considering closing it down after this summer term. But after hearing of the statistics of the high exam grades of the pupils, and the highest score of all in the school by Mehrtash Lotfian, who got 1 A*, 3 A's, 4B and a C in his GCSE's, the governors have reconsidered the descision. Mehrtash came to England from Iran and started scondary school in 1998, speaking no english. I feel so proud of my people around now It's always so good to know that there are many positive examples out there. To read the newspaper article, please click here

quote:WOW! A Simpsons fan?! smilies/eek.gif I love the simpsons. One of the smartest, funniest, and most creative things to ever come out of the US Television. And after all these years, it's still going strong smilies/cool.gif yes unlike the others in my house. I suppose they don't know culture. The great thing is that it is NOT a kids cartoon, simply an animated sitcom. Did you see they one about principal skinner really being Amarind Tamazarian? (i THINK that's the name, anyway) I been dying to see it but it was never aired on Sky. quote:That's exactly what I thought. And who knows ... maybe big cows also drink milk... or at least they want to. smilies/rolleyes.gif yeah i know. I never thought of it till someone else on the forum so thoughtfully pounted it out. I mean,why else would cows need to produced milk, by rights of nature? But what was that about the adult cows?

what i'd like to know is...who are those two strange silhuete figures in the second picture? One sitiing and the other waving his hands over him

quote:Originally posted by Sip:So you think you are smart? reasonably..... Then try this test. Let's see how many you get right. Ok, let's give it a bash..Seaphan Try to answer the questions first and then read the answers as you scroll down. Remember, you are on the "honor system" So no cheating --- 1. What do you put in a toaster? BREAD . . . . . . . . The answer is bread. Yippee.. If you said "toast", then give up now and go do something else. Try not to hurt yourself. If you said, "bread", go to question 2. Har, Har, (Nelson, in the Simpson's style!) 2. Say "silk" five times. Now spell "silk". What do cows drink? MILK . . . . . . . . Answer: Cows drink water. If you said "milk", please do not attempt the next question. O, comon, Be fair. That silk thing would catch anyone out What about baby cows, that's what the milk is 4 ! Not smart alec proof this test? eh? eh? Your brain is obviously overstressed and may even overheat. It may be that you need to content yourself with reading something more appropriate such as "Children's World". If you said, "water" then proceed to question three. Well I'm Going 2 anyway 3. If a red house is made from red bricks and a blue house is made from blue bricks and a pink house is made from pink bricks and a black house is made from black bricks, what is a greenhouse made from? GLASS . . . . . . . . Answer: Greenhouses are made from glass. If you said "green bricks", what the heck are you still doing here reading these questions????? Dang..... If you said "glass", then go on to question four. 4. Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no man's land"? WHEREVER HOMELAND IS , THEY MIGHT NOT WANNA BE BURIED IN GERMANY ANYWAY. THEY MIGHT WANT TO BE CREMATED.HAND THEM QUESTIONNAIRES BEFORE THEY BOARD . . . . . . . . Answer: You don't, of course, bury survivors. D'OH! If you said ANYTHING else, you are a real dunce and you must NEVER try to rescue anyone from a plane crash. Your efforts would not be appreciated. ...... If you said, "Don't bury the survivors" then proceed to the next question. 5. If the hour hand on a clock moves 1/60th of a degree every minute then how many degrees will the hour hand move in one hour? ONE . . . . . . . . Answer: One degree. If you said "360 degrees" or anything other than "one degree", you are to be congratulated on getting this far, but you are obviously out of your league. Turn your pencil in and exit the room. Everyone else proceed to the final question. HOORAY 6. Without using a calculator - You are driving a bus from London to Milford Haven in Wales. In London, 17 people get on the bus. In Reading, six people get off the bus and nine people get on. In Swindon, two people get off and four get on. In Cardiff, 11 people get off and 16 people get on. In Swansea, three people get off and five people get on. In Carmathen, six people get off and three get on. You then arrive at Milford Haven. What was the name of the bus driver? ALLADIN SANE. WHAT KIND OF A BUS ROUTE IS THAT, ALL OVER EVERY SIDE OF THE COUNTRY????!!! . . . . . . . . Answer: Oh, for heaven sake! It was YOU ! Read the first line again! Why is it me? ---- For the record: I just wanted to say that I think it's ok for cows to drink milk and I also think it's ok to bury survivors sometime smilies/crazy.gif smilies/lol.gif

oh, thanks for that information about their list of books steve. I'll definatley be lookingfor that! And also, thanks for your consideration about me going to all the trouble to get it out again and photocopy it. to be honest it WOULD be a bit difficult for me, i am banned from the library (don't ask...) so it helps us both really.

Since this following post in this thread here, I have posted about three messages, myself, from Kazza, last night. I have double checked and they are not there. Could someone tell me what's going on please? " MJ Member Member # 87 posted August 04, 2002 06:40 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Originally posted by Aghtchik: MJ. Are you saying that you are not familiar with a thing called blowjob? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's that, Elly? In Soviet Armenia, we don't know such words and we don't do such things - whatever it may mean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------"

While we are actualy on this subject, talking about sex among the armenian community can be seen as profane. But are many armenians in armenia clued up properly about safer sex? what is more important, not talking about things because they are "rude", or about keeping people safer from diseases, more unwanted babaies and saving a lot of young couples (the man and the woman and thier families) the heartbreak over abortions? [ August 04, 2002, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Kazza ]

Hagarag, thank you, thank you. may the preists bow down and kiss your feet. Every word you just said, is so true. You have to be so careful, especially with aids these days, peope should knw all the facts. It's as if most people never heard of condoms before. It's NOT vulagar or profane to talk about sex in an honest, civilised way, its clled looking out for people. Agchick, as usual, you the womm-uuun!

quote:Originally posted by MJ: quote:Originally posted by Aghtchik:MJ. Are you saying that you are not familiar with a thing called blowjob? What's that, Elly? In Soviet Armenia, we don't know such words and we don't do such things - whatever it may mean. O I C. So you don't know such words and don't do such things in Soviet Armenia! Mabye there is a soviet Armenia In Mars. Because lthat doesnt sound like the one on earth, they get up to all kinds ! Ok, Ok, jes kidding around with you!

If i was you I would use text messages to send very clear , direct, to the point things, like, Yes, I'll meet you at such and such a time in such and such a place. Not really for chatting in depth about complicated, or emotional things...because there could be miscommunication.. for example, the recepient may get the wrong end of the stick, get mad, not text back, but in a phone call , after the miscommunication they'll go, huh? what? and it's easier and qicker to explain. Do u see what I mean so far? These days, wiser and older, in this "text" culture, that's what i am more comforatble with doing. (I think textx are good for quick, easy, direct messages, especially if yu are in a busy noisy place where you phone is not meant to be on 4 example) they are fun, but I don't really think they are an altogether good thing as they are cracked up 2 b. Also are costly. But enough of my mutterings on that subject. In England people ue textxs a lot that's why. When I was in America 4 years ago people hardly used thier "cell" phones to call in case of an emergency! e-mails? I'm gnerally confortable with that. Happy birthday BTW!

If i was you I would use text messages to send very clear , direct, to the point things, like, Yes, I'll meet you at such and such a time in such and such a place. Not really for chatting in depth about complicated, or emotional things...because there could be miscommunication.. for example, the recepient may get the wrong end of the stick, get mad, not text back, but in a phone call , after the miscommunication they'll go, huh? what? and it's easier and qicker to explain. Do u see what I mean so far? These days, wiser and older, in this "text" culture, that's what i am more comforatble with doing. (I think textx are good for quick, easy, direct messages, especially if yu are in a busy noisy place where you phone is not meant to be on 4 example) they are fun, but I don't really think they are an altogether good thing as they are cracked up 2 b. Also are costly. But enough of my mutterings on that subject. In England people ue textxs a lot that's why. When I was in America 4 years ago people hardly used thier "cell" phones to call in case of an emergency! e-mails? I'm gnerally confortable with that. Happy birthday BTW!

Hello Seaphan . Again like "auntie" Kazza (Like those doctors and uncles in the problam pages of women's magazines)with bits and peices of advice to give 2 u. FIRST THINGS FIRST. If you are talking to a "taken" person (in a relationship) phonecalls ae still bad, phone texting is an ABSOLUTE NO NO. Even f you (like I have in the past) mean something totally innocent, for example are talking about work the next day, it could get him or her into a lot of trouble with the spouse. I personally think it's totally unfair because a lot of the time it's nothing like that, but just have to accept it as a social rule not to do. Otherwise you get calls like "kep your hands off my man, lady, etc" It's like, "i dont want your stupid man! you keep him darling, I want phoning for that! Well if they are only going out together I supose it's ok to call . I really don't know what came up with this stupid rule. I think it's because phone texts are considered a very personal thing, (and are easy kept private)and i think they may have been the culprit of a lot of affairs when they came out. I dont know. If you are going to phone-text anybody, make sure they are not attached. Well this is wha tit is lik e where i live nayway.

quote:Originally posted by bellthecat: quote:Originally posted by Kazza:Steve, did I tell you already I read that book as well? I was going to write about it but had to return it. It was very good. I think that girl needs a good old haircut though. The Zabelle Boyajian book? I wonder, can you get a colour photocopy of that picture? My reference library won't give me one because it is still in copyright. A haircut possibly But she is supposed to be very art nouveau and that requires all women to have long flowıng hair!! ...And art nouveau is another thing that dıd not survive the First World War Well I just saw that haircut, and thought it was funny, mermaid and stereotypical, lol! As for that Zabelle Boyajian book, I'm sure I can get it out again and send you some colour photocopies, If you like.

..He hated armenians! "Armenian, you are wild, murderer, villain, coward and betrayer. You are the "owl", that devastates our town and villages. Despite of all, I don't reproach you, because you are an armenian !" There is no any armenian in Israel, because jews have experienced the betrayer personality of armenians and armenians can't cheat anyone in Israel.

quote:Originally posted by Arine: It's nice that others see the good side of the ARmenians, not that we have any bad sides. That is good. I find that a releif and a refreshing change. But it's right to a point what Accelerted and you are saying. You have got to be careful. These people might be giving compliemts SUPERFICIALLY on the SURFACE, while they could be after something, or the compliments may be positive but still based on (postitive) stereotypes, and say bad things (negative) stereotypes about us when they are in their own homes or communitites behind our backs. Or they may not, you don't know. For example, it someone says "Armenian girls are beautiful" you your face, what would stop tham for going back to their friends and saying, "Yeah, those armenian foreign birds are gorgeous, but only for a shag" or "Those armenian girs are beautiful but their culture and ways are blah blah blah" (Trust me I heard it ALL before. My point is somepeople can appear to be well meaning when undernearth in fact they could be patronising, or they might prove themselves to be true and honest. The best thing is to take the compliment for what it is, a simple "thank you" and smile will suffice (Like you should expect any less!) amd don't read all that too much into it! [ June 19, 2002, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: Kazza ]

quote:Originally posted by Accelerated:LOL, Arine dont be so gullible, I dont need to tell you what their after. LOL. Same thing I will be after this Saturday night to celebrate the end of university semester. Dirt

.....We accepted and kept Christianity and all our surrounding courties had accepted and kept being Muslim?

quote:Originally posted by Arine:The reason that I posted this article which I found it @ www.president.az was to show you that 75% of the so called history is fake. It talks about how Azerbaijan & Azeris are one of the ancient people on this planet, but there's no word about Azeris being Turks. It also says that Azeris had one of the greatest writers, & scientists & that those people contributed alot to the world, over the centuries, but the genius historian who wrote this article doesn't give us any names of those great Azeris scientists & writers. It doesn't mention anything about Azeris being turks, & Azerbaijan being first created in 1918 because of the oil in that region. Once an Azeri guy told me that (not that i was friendly with him) that Freddi Mercury from the Queen is Azerbaijani. I just don't understand whom are they trying to fool. I'm sorry, but he really is. At his funeral it showed his family for the only time publicly, and they had on the Traditional Azeri dress. I don't know of any other famous people from there though. ' [ June 19, 2002, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Kazza ]

I don't know about people in Southern California, but I try to make my bed as soon as i get up. Other wise I get loads of nagging. All I have to do is adjust the duvet this way or that really, talk about "making " my bed! If I don't do something to my rom each day it accelarates into the amazon jungle. You can't see the carpet or even the bed for all the stuff on the floor! I know it's an incredibly teenage-ish and disorganised habit, but if I don't tidy it a little each day that is the level I'm drwan to i'm afraid. I think I deserve a break though. It was my birthday last Tuesday! NEW WEEK'S RESOLUTION Work on my organisational skills... NEW DAY'S RESOLUTION Get the pest control in to the entire London Borough of Haringey. Today's gonna be a real toughie! [ June 19, 2002, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: Kazza ]

About time we got out of the "crying" mode and proceed with the "trying" one Ha ha ha Arpa! So true. I think perhaps mmore people would have so much more respect if those poets would, give them a better allover impression. There seems to be precious little to gloat about Ani. Any land I suppose is anything to gloat over to Armenians. Armenia of today is so small and I think it's a half or even a quater of the size compared to Armenia many years ago, before bits and pecies here and there were lost in various invasions. I think the feelings of armenians are that it keeps on getting taken and that a metaphoric woman has been wailing for years, and nobody cares. No wonder that "woman" feels like a victim. O well, you know how the story goes. i think in the 19th century, the caucasus was supposed to be very beautiful. That is what they say. Steve, did I tell you already I read that book as well? I was going to write about it but had to return it. It was very good. I think that girl needs a good old haircut though.

Oh bums. I wanted to go and see it in the summer as well call me silly but you know..I can't wait. Oh well that's not TOO bad though. Only a few more months to wait. If anything it will give me a chance to sort out things and prepare. I don't know whether it is worth me taking a small portfolio of my own work in case I meet anyone that is interested in recruiting new people for their companies, you know, networking. Well I shall ring whoever and enquire about that before I think of doing anything further, in that respect. Then when I do go and see it, I will take pictures so that you can all see, and absorb the atmosphere. Sorry Sam jam I thought you were London in England! When you stated so matter-of -factly it was in Canada I felt silly. Oopsy daisies. MJ, thanks for that website. Am about to just look for it now. And I passed my exams, thanks for asking me! I found out yesterday. Although I haven't finished every small aspect of my work, the teacher saw a bit of it, and I said to him, "do you want to see the reast?" and he said, no, it's alright, your'e good, you passed" I double checked today on whether I passed the whole year, or whether he just meant that one project, and he said, that I done enough in that project to pass the whole year anyway! That was ood news 4 me, I was panicking. About the other bits of unfinished work, he told me to just include everthing I could in the exhibition, but the important thing was to present it al now. [ June 19, 2002, 07:18 AM: Message edited by: Kazza ]

quote:Originally posted by bellthecat:It's been postponed quote:Originally posted by Samjan:Can you give some details of this Armenian film festival in London please? Where, when etc perhaps you know of a website, I would really like to check this out. thanks ARMENIAN FILM FESTIVAL Due to circumstances beyond our control, the London Armenian Film Festival at the Institut Francais:Cine Lumiere, Kensington, has now been rescheduled for Autumn 2002. For detailed schedule and programme information, please contact Gareth Evans or Nora Armani in September. Tel: 020 8806 6272 or gareth@drifting.demon.co.uk Sugar!!!!

quote:Originally posted by Arpa:SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW! HAVE WE STOPPED CRYING AND LAMENTING! This poem should be juxtaposed with that Protestant hymn that goes; "Lal@ chi prker zis" (Weeping will not save me). When did we adopt lamentations as our "national anthem"??!! This is an old poem. As the note at the end suggests the author(s) is unknown. It could well be a folk song developed and embelished in time. It is very poor in esthetics and liguistics but the message is there as suggested by the footnote that our nostalgia for Ani is nothing new. The poem was probably composed during mid or late 19th c. when there was renewed interest in our heritage and history. The poem is usually accompanied by a drawing of a very Armenian looking woman dressed in period costume of a mix of folk dress and regalia. The woman is very sad, sitting on a fragment of a fallen column amid many other fallen columns and and stone fragments of once majestic palaces and other monuments. Her facial features are a cross between Mother Hayastan and Mona Lisa with long black hair flowing down the sides and tear drops streaking down her cheek. It is suggested that the poem is recited by the woman symbolizing Ani Kaghak. As indicated above the poem has a very commonplace language and poor estehtics. It is in the western vernacular sometimes even interspersed with Turkish words. Here is an equally poor translation. It is at times also known as Hayoun Voghb@, Lament of the Armenian. ODE (to the) CITY OF ANI Ani Kaghak, sitting down, she cries, No one around to say; "Dont't cry, Don't Cry!" You say it's so little, let her stay and cry, Akh! When will I hear "Don't cry, don't cry". With much pain I am on fire, I burn, I have no one loyal to trust Who would approach this wretched me? Who'll ever say; "Don't cry, don't cry"? (Hordorak/Advice) Akh Hay Tgha, have mercy on me, Look and see how's your Ani, I have cried enough, you with no mercy. Is not your alas for Ani!? Days of mourning and fear I've had, My eyes with tears blinded, Orphan has always been my lot, I've been forsaken by my luck . I have lost many a king, blind owls circling my head, Once I was unequalled your City of the east, Now I am ruined to the ground, Sitting alone and weeping here aloud. You came, you saw and now you leave, You say "goodbye" with lots of tears, For the sake of God, do not forget.. When you get near our Masis... Tell that my Brave Ararat, "My poor Ani is down and cries", When will that mount give the tidings, "Oh my Ani, enough you've wept"? Arpa, that's brilliant! Where DID you find it? Do you like the poem? The First Two paragraphs pterry much say it all in my eyes though, the rest just repeats itself. does the "Comonplace language" Suggest a "peasant" dialect , not very well written? or just poor translation? It is very lamenting but that is just the style of the poem I suppose. Fair dues when she (Ani) is crying and nobody is comforting her or caring. Just expressing our pain at our land being taken and that is just that.

quote:Originally posted by bellthecat: quote:Originally posted by Kazza:[QBI don't know Steve. I really wish I could help you, but I don't know very much armenian at all. But If you know the basics (I'm sure in your travels, you must have had to speak a little to get by?) this copy of the armenian alphabet with pronounciations might be able you help you a little. http://www.arminco-usa.com/tourarmenia/dem...ge/language.htm http://www.arminco-usa.com/tourarmenia/demo/language/language.htm This is the link for the site. http://www.arminco-usa.com/tourarmenia/dem...ge/language.htm Thank's for your interest Kazza. But I can't understand Armenian beyond a few basic words - there is not much need of it in Turkey, after all. I found an English to Armenian translation page a little while ago: http://www.troy.am/dictionary/ But it doesn't do Armenian to English And I can't get the Armenian words to displa -, the site doesn't use unicode to display the Armenian letters (see the recent postings on the armenian-diaspora forum on this subject). Steve[/QB] Oh ok! No Problem. You see, I thought you would definatley know some of the basics at least- so this is where I thought the alphabet would come in useful. (Might it actually be a good idea to learn some? - It would help you a lot for translatig meanings of all these historical docoments you research, plus if you knew some basics you could make a bit of money teaching. Beginners level pays highly!) O well, that's a bit of a surprise that's it's not used. But why should I be surprised really. It's widely used in Russia, Azerbaijan and Khazakstan, and other caucasian countries, and apparrently a lot in Afghanistan! I also think afghans are mixed with armenians (Brwon skin, Blue and Green eyes) (Embarrasment. But the Taliban all come from Saudi arabia I think) At least that's what i heard