mx5 Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 http://www.rense.com/general53/zions.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 I thought the Aztlan-clique were Aztec-/Michica-purists. I must have missed something - namely that they were pro-Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 A very stupid and racist article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) A very stupid and racist article. Yes, indeed, very stupid and racist, right. I assume then that you also think all the Jewish infested media, which constantly down plays anything Armenian for political reasons, has no selfish motive attached to it as well. Your brand of logic, morals, and convictions are better left for the short bus because in the "real world" they have no value. Edited June 5, 2004 by Vigil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 This is one reason why people around the world are becoming increasingly impatient with the Jews and probably one reason why Adolf Hitler acted the way he did. Vigil if you agree with points like these I strongly advise seeking mental help. Or joining the National Alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) Vigil if you agree with points like these I strongly advise seeking mental help. Or joining the National Alliance. Listen jackass, my point is that how can you say they are being "anti Semitic" when in fact "Jews" are equally racist by labeling Armenians, Arabs, and any other race, ethnicity, and nationality that does not fit into their political agenda, with negative co-notations. Grow some brains or balls, but don't contaminate my ideas with racist, prejudice, or "Naziesque" co-notations. Edited June 5, 2004 by Vigil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Listen jackass, my point is that how can you say they are being "anti Semitic" when in fact "Jews" are equally racist by labeling Armenians, Arabs, and any other race, ethnicity, and nationality that does not fit into their political agenda, with negative co-notations. Grow some brains or balls, but don't contaminate my ideas with racist, prejudice, or "Naziesque" co-notations. Vigil you are right about Jews thinking others in lesser terms but isn’t true for Muslims, Catholics, Christens-evangelists and a vast religious communities as well that their religion and lifestyle are superior to others.Call it a basic humanity in its most tribal form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Let me understand this correctly, here in the Armenian forum where we have to firstly discuss and share ideas to make our Nation prosperous so we all maybe can benefit from it, and now we have to discuss Mexicans vs. Jews? What in the hell those this have to do with us anyways? How does it unite you and me? Based on common hate and racism? Yes Azat I agree with you, it’s much more stupid and equally resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 I assume then that you also think all the Jewish infested media, which constantly down plays anything Armenian for political reasons, has no selfish motive attached to it as well. Vigil please tell me, if tables were reversed and Armenians had all the Media and control over information, are you telling me we be using that to end the hunger in Somalia? Or we be doing exactly what they do, working for our National security! If there is a lesson need to be learned then there is not a better lesson then this one, this is not heaven nor do we live in an ideal world where truth and honesty have little or no values. Your assumption above has nothing to do for solving our own National concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Yes, indeed, very stupid and racist, right. I assume then that you also think all the Jewish infested media, which constantly down plays anything Armenian for political reasons, has no selfish motive attached to it as well. Your brand of logic, morals, and convictions are better left for the short bus because in the "real world" they have no value. did not expect much more than that from a racist fool like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Vigil please tell me, if tables were reversed and Armenians had all the Media and control over information, are you telling me we be using that to end the hunger in Somalia? Or we be doing exactly what they do, working for our National security! If there is a lesson need to be learned then there is not a better lesson then this one, this is not heaven nor do we live in an ideal world where truth and honesty have little or no values. Your assumption above has nothing to do for solving our own National concerns. I understand what you mean Edward, but this kind of arguments should not be used when criticising things. We can use if's pratically everywhere, we could even use it to free a serial killer. There is a difference between "accepting" and "understanding." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Maybe it was harsh Domino, important thing for me is some people understand what I mean, but I never really understood this obsession we Armenians have always blaming our misfortunes to others. Now days where we should have and use new long waited opportunity to become what we always dreamed of becoming, yet I see young generations are being systematically waisted in the dialogue of racism. If they devote just 1/10 of the energy they spend looking for hypothetical answers, instead turn that 1/10 to well being and contribute to insure future generations don’t have to blame "others" for our shortcomings, I say there would be no other Nation in this world would come even close of being as strong as us. This is a dilemma in which I think of every day, sometimes my son asks me naively, pap do Jews really hate us? Why? What the hell am suppose to tell him? Yes? There is the spooning of hate and racism and I don’t see how that helps us. (Not to mention Jews vs. Mexicans") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Silly boys, that you think that there is not an element in the Mexican community who hate us a much as they hate Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 (edited) Vigil please tell me, if tables were reversed and Armenians had all the Media and control over information, are you telling me we be using that to end the hunger in Somalia? Or we be doing exactly what they do, working for our National security! No, Armenians will not do the same, which is historically evident by just looking at the shambles Armenia is in compared with Turkey, who sure as hell did not follow any guideline that was set fourth by “western nations”. In fact they are praised by the Europeans for their actions today then they are shunned for their past atrocities. At the very end Armenians, who are supposedly noble, got the short end of the stick, while Turks, who are supposedly barbarians, ended up with everything we have because they took steps that “hippies” like your self will never take due to sticking to failed ideologies. How many times have Armenians lobbied against anything that will benefit Israel? Zero times, however, how many times do you see Jews lobbying against anything that will benefit Armenians? Can we assume more than once? Yes, in fact it was the Jewish lobby that opted for the increase of military aid to Azerbaijan or are you Armenians so stupid, blind, and pathetic? How can you show compassion towards individuals that are out to destroy your statehood? See my point in this discussion is simple, which is that Jews quickly jump on the band wagon of labeling anyone an "Anti Semite" when in fact they are the ones who exploit other races, nationalities, and ethnicities for their own gain. How many times has the Jewish media portrayed Catholic priests as molesters? How many times have they connected these ideas with Christianity? In fact it was a Jewish producer that financed the Last Temptation of Christ was it not? Yes, it was, which was offensive to Christians. When the tables are turned like recently when Mel Gibson actually portrayed history how it was played out, they brand his movie "Anti Semitic", which we all know was over blown. Furthermore, how many times have they tried to connect their attempt to eradicating the Palestinians with the current terrorism scare? Every time a few Israeli citizens die due their own nations greed they blow it up like the world actually gives a dam, when in fact news like an Azeri officer murdering a Armenian in cold blood and be heading him is down played when it shouldn't be for political reasons. How many times will they down right ignored running a Genocide piece just to please a few Turks in Ankara? When will it convince you Armenians to see them for what they are instead of trying to show compassion towards them when they hold none for you, your history, and your future? HOW MANY TIMES WILL JEWISH “INTELLECTUALS” LIKE BARNARD LEWIS DEGRADE THE GENOCIDE TO JUST A CIVIL WAR? Listen, my point is simple if in fact distortion, manipulation, and anything else that is used by Jews for their own personal gain is ok then they or individuals like them should not whine, complain, or try to stop propaganda that is aimed towards them. IF EVERYTHING IS FAIR GAME THEN THIS ARTICLE IS NO EXCEPTION AND IF ANYONE LABELS IT “ANTI SEMITIC” WITH THE SAME TOKEN MUST ALSO LABEL WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING TO PALISTINIANS AS GENOCIDE. You people make me sick, even though this article is “Anti Semitic”, nevertheless, you are so quick to call it racist, prejudice, and what not. Why are you so conditioned to behave like this? Why can’t you for once be independent thinkers instead of saps, suckers, and fools? Like I stated earlier if this article is indeed “Anti Semitic” then by the same token you must label what Jews, the Jewish Lobby, and the Israeli Governments actions as equally racist instead of showing compassion towards their cause when they show none for yours. Like I stated earlier grow some balls or brains, but don’t think by being conditioned little lap dogs you can push your argument forward by labeling mine with racist, prejudice, and down right “Naziesque” co-notations. Maybe it was harsh Domino, important thing for me is some people understand what I mean, but I never really understood this obsession we Armenians have always blaming our misfortunes to others. Listen, how the hell am I blaming them? I am just saying that if they can label something "Anti Semitic" then eventually you too will be labeled a "Anti Semite" even though you know what they are doing is wrong. Blaming? You are a funny a guy. How blind are you to the very obvious attempt by the Jewish lobby to go against anything Armenian? Why are you so naive? YES, if you think I am blaming them then so be it, but at least I have the satisfaction of living in the truth then hiding behind the banality of denial for the sake of "honor", "morals", and "convictions" when they are not doing the same towards me or my people. Now days where we should have and use new long waited opportunity to become what we always dreamed of becoming, yet I see young generations are being systematically waisted in the dialogue of racism. If they devote just 1/10 of the energy they spend looking for hypothetical answers, instead turn that 1/10 to well being and contribute to insure future generations don’t have to blame "others" for our shortcomings, I say there would be no other Nation in this world would come even close of being as strong as us. Grow the hell up man; you are a 50 year old man trying to tell a 20 year old kid that the world is this "peachy place" and that if I devote my time I too can become part of the "enlightened saps" of globalization. Please grow up; this is pathetic when in fact the WORLD HAS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF RESOURCES, WHICH MEANS THAT EVENTUALLY DIFFERENT GROUPS WILL COMPETE WITH ONE ANOTHER TO LAY CLAIM TO THEM. Quite stating this useless philosophy of "one world", when in fact this same philosophy did not stop Turks of doing what they did. This is a dilemma in which I think of every day, sometimes my son asks me naively, pap do Jews really hate us? Why? You are truly ludicrous not because of your "one world" ideas, but because of how you place Armenians as aggressors when in fact they are the ones that originally choose Turkey over Armenia. You are a fool and anyone else that thinks like you is the REASON WHY ARMENIA HAS BECOME WHAT IT IS TODAY. What the hell am suppose to tell him? Yes? There is the spooning of hate and racism and I don’t see how that helps us. TELL HIM ITS NOT RACISM, BUT THE SHEAR FACT THAT AT THE VERY END THERE IS ONLY A FEW GALLONS OF PETROL, A FEW ACRES OF LAND, AND ONLY A HANDFUL OF MINERALS TO PILLAGE, WHICH IS WHY SOME RACES, ETHNICITIES, AND NATIONALITIES WILL BE THE EXPLOITER AND OTHERS WILL BE THE EXPLOITED. did not expect much more than that from a racist fool like you I would rather be a "racist fool" any day then be a brainwashed media whore like yourself that believes in the ideals set fourth by groups that will never uphold them if their own security is in state, which is why the entire notion of following these "rules and regulations" is better left for idealists or as they are known in my writings as suckers, saps, and fools. Oh thanks for banning me, that is very classy, however, this forum is better left for the short bus, so, with this being said Vigil or in this case Jesus, will leave with the satisfaction of having the last laugh. Oh yeah, do not think, I did not know that some of the Moderators did not let members that agreed with me to post in certain threads because they felt that by reducing me to a individual they can push their argument forward by "bullying" me into submission. You people are truly pathetic and now I realize why Armenia and Armenians in general are in such shambles. They are more adamant in silencing individuals that care about Armenia, rather then uniting and destroying those that plot against them. A united Armenia and Diaspora is a dream and this forum just furthers this point. Armenians are more adamant in gaining the affection of "otars" rather then their own people’s affection. In fact those that agree with my ideas are shot down by the same Armenians his or hers ideas will benefit. It is truly sad, pathetic, and detrimental to our survival. EDIT: Domino I AGREE WITH YOU, SORRY MISREAD YOUR ORIGINAL POST. Oh. please explain to me why the mods banned Vigil or pm Jesus. 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